dave4shmups controversy topic...

cigsthecat · Post by **cigsthecat** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 9:10 am

You mods have got to stop accommodating dave4shmups' constant

OMG THERE BEING MEAN PLEASE LOCK OK THX!!!!!! crap.

It'll only encourage him. I also refuse to believe he is 28 or whatever.

ArrogantBastard · Post by **ArrogantBastard** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 10:04 am

Not to bash on dave4shmups or whatever, but doing this whole "MODS PLEASE LOCK THIS THREAD" and so on has to stop, because the moderators are not required to lock your thread and whatnot. They will only lock threads that deem necessary, not upon someone's request or demands if a thread goes wrong.

Once in a while, it's okay to lock a thread per request if it's an orgy of retardation on the highest level.

The only solution, dave4shmups, is to just let the thread go to hell, and take the time to figure out what went wrong and whatnot and create a new one and hope that it goes all well. I know I've ripped on you in the past and I have no problem with that, but you should realize all these posts you've typed about how anyone shouldn't take the Internet 'seriously' and few minutes later, you throw off some kind of attitude or tantrum towards someone for disagreeing with you. Especially when someone uses sarcasm.

Another chestnut of wisdom here to keep in mind when it comes to posting on forums: When someone disagrees with you, it's NOT considered trolling at all. It's called DISAGREEMENT. Trolling is when someone decides to be an asshole and pisses off nearly everyone in a thread, or derailing a topic with useless, inane bullshit that has no relevance to the topic or bumping up post count to enlarge your e-penis.

Again, for emphasis' sake, I'm not ripping on you. Just stating the facts, that's all.

uwfan · Post by **uwfan** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 10:23 am

I agree with what cigs said in his first post.

whats particulary annoying is he (dave) makes the same mistakes over and over again. It gets rather tiresome.

TGK · Post by **TGK** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 11:17 am

actually, to be fair, I have only seen 1 such thread that was requested to be locked. It only pops up again yesterday because somebody posted in it, although I'm sure that it is the same thread that was requested to be locked long ago.

Post by **system11** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 12:37 pm

It was one of many - and I don't think we should be locking them at all unless there's actual flamewarring going on.

mannerbot · Post by **mannerbot** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 1:17 pm

I have a feeling that this thread is going to get locked as well.

UnscathedFlyingObject · Thu Aug 04, 2005 3:00 pm

Where's our main character!? Arggh.

Edit: In dave's defense, he has gotten somewhat better. I don't see twenty threads a day anymore asking about crappy games.

Grinning Cat · Post by **Grinning Cat** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 3:06 pm

A typical Dave4shmups thread, reads...

Subject: Which is better, Mr Nutz or Terra Cresta 3D...

Dave: Which is better; I've searched EVERYWHERE for a review of either.

Untitled member #1: www.google.com

Untitled member #2: Yeah, try a search engine

Dave: More crap? Why are you being so MEAN to me? I have a degree in 'Internet Research'; I DO know how to use a search engine. I'll PM the mods, honest...

Untitled member #3: Both of those games are lame. I'd rather amputate all my limbs than play either

Dave: PLEASE stick to the topic; all I want to know is which game is better. Geeze, is that really that much to ask?

Untitled member #3: Umm as I just said, both suck. Equally. Seriously, there are much better games out there.

Dave:

Can no one give me a straight answer?

edit: MODS PLEASE CLOSE THX!!!!11111

UnscathedFlyingObject · Thu Aug 04, 2005 3:11 pm

^ Hah, good one. But you aren't good enough to be dave4.

Grinning Cat · Post by **Grinning Cat** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 3:34 pm

UnscathedFlyingObject wrote:But you aren't good enough to be dave4.

One day I'll get there. Maybe.

judesalmon · Post by **judesalmon** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 4:12 pm

I was Untitled Member #3 in his last thread. Why do I feel dirty?

Icecap Veiwin · Post by **Icecap Veiwin** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 4:43 pm

I would not be surprised if he came in asking to lock this topic >.>;

Jon · Post by **Jon** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 5:12 pm

Grinning Cat wrote:A typical Dave4shmups thread, reads...

Subject: Which is better, Mr Nutz or Terra Cresta 3D...

Dave: Which is better; I've searched EVERYWHERE for a review of either.

Untitled member #1: www.google.com

Untitled member #2: Yeah, try a search engine

Dave: More crap? Why are you being so MEAN to me? I have a degree in 'Internet Research'; I DO know how to use a search engine. I'll PM the mods, honest...

Untitled member #3: Both of those games are lame. I'd rather amputate all my limbs than play either

Dave: PLEASE stick to the topic; all I want to know is which game is better. Geeze, is that really that much to ask?

Untitled member #3: Umm as I just said, both suck. Equally. Seriously, there are much better games out there.

Dave: Can no one give me a straight answer?

edit: MODS PLEASE CLOSE THX!!!!11111

Damn, thats one hell of an impression! Seriously.

Grinning Cat · Post by **Grinning Cat** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 5:32 pm

Jon wrote:Damn, thats one hell of an impression! Seriously.

Heh, thanks man

Bullet_Storm · Post by **Bullet_Storm** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 5:44 pm

Jon wrote:
Grinning Cat wrote:A typical Dave4shmups thread, reads...

Subject: Which is better, Mr Nutz or Terra Cresta 3D...

Dave: Which is better; I've searched EVERYWHERE for a review of either.

Untitled member #1: www.google.com

Untitled member #2: Yeah, try a search engine

Dave: More crap? Why are you being so MEAN to me? I have a degree in 'Internet Research'; I DO know how to use a search engine. I'll PM the mods, honest...

Untitled member #3: Both of those games are lame. I'd rather amputate all my limbs than play either

Dave: PLEASE stick to the topic; all I want to know is which game is better. Geeze, is that really that much to ask?

Untitled member #3: Umm as I just said, both suck. Equally. Seriously, there are much better games out there.

Dave: Can no one give me a straight answer?

edit: MODS PLEASE CLOSE THX!!!!11111
Damn, thats one hell of an impression! Seriously.

You hit the nail on the head.

I think his obsession with medicrity is the funniest thing ever. Someone on here told me that someone gave him a new copy of DDP DOJ for free and he credit fed it and traded it away. That right there is just not right.

Post by **BulletMagnet** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 5:50 pm

Yeesh, blood in the water...if you want to change someone's behavior that's one thing, but do you honestly think that the full-on bashfest that this thread has become (before its subject has even seen it, mind you) is going to help the situation at all? C'mon, I like to think that this forum has a little more class than this.

Ord · Post by **Ord** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 6:17 pm

BulletMagnet wrote:Yeesh, blood in the water...if you want to change someone's behavior that's one thing, but do you honestly think that the full-on bashfest that this thread has become (before its subject has even seen it, mind you) is going to help the situation at all? C'mon, I like to think that this forum has a little more class than this.

I'm with you on this.

Brian · Post by **Brian** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 6:24 pm

If Dave takes this forum as seriously as I think he does, you guys just extended his therapy.

dpful · Post by **dpful** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 6:26 pm

BulletMagnet wrote:
Yeesh, blood in the water...if you want to change someone's behavior that's one thing, but do you honestly think that the full-on bashfest that this thread has become (before its subject has even seen it, mind you) is going to help the situation at all? C'mon, I like to think that this forum has a little more class than this.

I'm with you on this.
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Me too.
It's an internet forum for christ sakes. Skip his posts if you like, even the ones asking to be locked.
Some people make collecting mediocre games a serious hobby. I've been searching for Rad Mobile.
To go futher, I'd say THIS thread it trolling. for complaints like this, I'd say pm a mod and leave it up to them.

uwfan · Post by **uwfan** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 7:13 pm

grinning cat's post is really funny.

and most of us have been really patient with the guy.....the guy has 1800 posts ffs! (LoL) This is the point i made in my first post, its the repetiton of the same mistakes/behaviour that becomes frustrating.

this is by far one of the most tolerant forums I have seen on the whole internet.

magnum opus · Post by **magnum opus** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 7:13 pm

BulletMagnet wrote:Yeesh, blood in the water...if you want to change someone's behavior that's one thing, but do you honestly think that the full-on bashfest that this thread has become (before its subject has even seen it, mind you) is going to help the situation at all? C'mon, I like to think that this forum has a little more class than this.

well it's not like people haven't told him point blank, to his face, in plain english before. I myself have done it twice. We can't sit him down in a room full of us and have an intervention, after school special style.

so making a thread devoted to questioning/critiquing/insulting his behavior is the next logical step. Also if the number of emoticons present in an average thread says anything, this board has no class.

GC, excellent impression.

marcus12024 · Post by **marcus12024** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 7:17 pm

dpful wrote: Me too.
It's an internet forum for christ sakes. Skip his posts if you like, even the ones asking to be locked.
Some people make collecting mediocre games a serious hobby. I've been searching for Rad Mobile.
To go futher, I'd say THIS thread it trolling. for complaints like this, I'd say pm a mod and leave it up to them.

I agree here. And yeah, collecting mediocre games is a very serious hobby (if not the ONLY hobby of some people), which is okay. Some people collect stamps or coins and no one bashes them for collecting mediocre, low-value, or cheap stamps. I'd know since a friend of mine is fairly serious into coin-collecting, and no one insults him for seeking out the less rare coins, or those that no one else wants - they often ask why he's looking for them, and then just sort of forget about it.

As for people who "collect" games, rather than play them, try heading over to digitpress if anyone wants to see how different of a hobby videogames can be to different people. There are a lot of serious collectors over there, collecting good, bad, prototypes, pirated carts, etc. They don't want to play them, they collect them. And if they do play them, or want impressions of them, other members either answer to the best of their knowledge, or stay out of the topic. Makes sense to me

So let's just calm down, realize we all love videogames (wasn't aware that a person isn't allowed to want opinions/enjoy games that are widely considered "bad" - to each his own). So, if you don't like how dave posts, ignore him. By constantly referencing him, or insulting him, you're just making his presence more widely known. Like this very topic, for example. I really don't agree with many people's opinions, and in that case I either comment on it, or ignore it. And if I comment on it, it's not to make fun of the person.

Holy rant - sorry about that

Grinning Cat · Post by **Grinning Cat** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 7:27 pm

BulletMagnet wrote:Yeesh, blood in the water...if you want to change someone's behavior that's one thing, but do you honestly think that the full-on bashfest that this thread has become (before its subject has even seen it, mind you) is going to help the situation at all? C'mon, I like to think that this forum has a little more class than this.

I was only playing around. Nothing like a little parody to lighten (heh) the mood. To be honest, I'd be pretty worried if anyone took anything I posted even remotely seriously - well, apart from maybe my for sale threads

magnum opus · Post by **magnum opus** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 7:45 pm

marcus12024 wrote:
dpful wrote: Me too.
It's an internet forum for christ sakes. Skip his posts if you like, even the ones asking to be locked.
Some people make collecting mediocre games a serious hobby. I've been searching for Rad Mobile.
To go futher, I'd say THIS thread it trolling. for complaints like this, I'd say pm a mod and leave it up to them.
I agree here. And yeah, collecting mediocre games is a very serious hobby (if not the ONLY hobby of some people), which is okay. Some people collect stamps or coins and no one bashes them for collecting mediocre, low-value, or cheap stamps. I'd know since a friend of mine is fairly serious into coin-collecting, and no one insults him for seeking out the less rare coins, or those that no one else wants - they often ask why he's looking for them, and then just sort of forget about it.

...

So let's just calm down, realize we all love videogames (wasn't aware that a person isn't allowed to want opinions/enjoy games that are widely considered "bad" - to each his own). So, if you don't like how dave posts, ignore him. By constantly referencing him, or insulting him, you're just making his presence more widely known. Like this very topic, for example. I really don't agree with many people's opinions, and in that case I either comment on it, or ignore it. And if I comment on it, it's not to make fun of the person.

it's not about his choice of games it's about how 90% of his threads are nothing but "tell me about _______", no attempt to actually engage in conversation just mining us for an opinion. then when people get tired of answering him and tell him to go look it up on his own and come back when he has something more than a name, which considering the size of the internet, is not a problem, he starts getting indignant.

If he comes to us first for all his gaming opinions because he trusts us than he needs to accept people's opinions at face value. if he doesn't trust our opinions than he needs to start looking elsewhere first.

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 7:48 pm

I think dave is funny in a way, but these things bother me a bit. Especially posting questions like "how many ships are there in Zanac Neo" in the strategy section. It'd be nice to see dave is playing a game and has got past menu, ship, etc. selection, but no never.

marcus12024 · Post by **marcus12024** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 8:37 pm

magnum opus wrote: it's not about his choice of games it's about how 90% of his threads are nothing but "tell me about _______", no attempt to actually engage in conversation just mining us for an opinion. then when people get tired of answering him and tell him to go look it up on his own and come back when he has something more than a name, which considering the size of the internet, is not a problem, he starts getting indignant.

If he comes to us first for all his gaming opinions because he trusts us than he needs to accept people's opinions at face value. if he doesn't trust our opinions than he needs to start looking elsewhere first.

Very well, that's fair - as I mentioned, I really don't pay any attention to his topics anymore, so am sort of out of the loop. Just didn't want people ganging up on someone for no real reason - but it sounds as though people have their reasons. I myself am now choosing to once again leave the discussion, thanks for your time!

Davey · Post by **Davey** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 10:09 pm

marcus12024 wrote:They don't want to play them, they collect them.

Yes, but that is not the case here.

If opinions about _____ vs. _____ are requested, gameplay is obviously of interest, as opposed to collecting them for collection's sake. There's a difference between:
1.) Asking if Sol Divide is better than Skull Fang, and
2.) Buying one or both of them to fill a hole in your collection.

The first will make you the subject of laughter (regardless of whether that's polite or not), the second probably will not.

Although I probably shouldn't comment because I don't read his threads anyway. Like anybody named Dave would post worthwhile content.

jp · Post by jp » Thu Aug 04, 2005 10:14 pm

*shrugs*

I've never had too much of a problem with the guy myself. I don't really see why threads on this matter are starting to pop up.

dave4shmups · Post by **dave4shmups** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 11:11 pm

dpful wrote:BulletMagnet wrote:
Yeesh, blood in the water...if you want to change someone's behavior that's one thing, but do you honestly think that the full-on bashfest that this thread has become (before its subject has even seen it, mind you) is going to help the situation at all? C'mon, I like to think that this forum has a little more class than this.

I'm with you on this.
_________________
Me too.
It's an internet forum for christ sakes. Skip his posts if you like, even the ones asking to be locked.
Some people make collecting mediocre games a serious hobby. I've been searching for Rad Mobile.
To go futher, I'd say THIS thread it trolling. for complaints like this, I'd say pm a mod and leave it up to them.

Thank you for the defense dpful. No, I'm afraid this forum hasn't got more class then this. I have improved, and I really don't give a crap who thinks I haven't.

The n00b · Post by **The n00b** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 11:16 pm

I like Dave and I know he's a guy who's got some problems but this shit has to stop.