Espgaluda in Mame

[JGcontraman]

Well from what I heard, for the most part using a PS2 emulator has more of an advantage over these kind of shmups. But configuring PCSX2 can be a chore. Least someone is trying to ease things out which is a good thing. I am quite interested to see how many more games that can't work in MAME will be able to work in this shmupmame.

Edit: However it would make alot more sense if someone just released a new version of the regular mame and just collaborated shmupmame with it. Feels kind of inconvenient to have more than one version of the same emulator...

[david peterson]

pcsx2 has mega lag compared to mame

[JGcontraman]

Good thing you mentioned that and I'm not surprised. But ePSXe for regular Playstation roms plays plenty of games fairly well with very minimal/barely noticable lag.

[david peterson]

Good thing you mentioned that and I'm not surprised. But ePSXe for regular Playstation roms plays plenty of games fairly well with very minimal/barely noticable lag.

Not totally true turning on vsync and so on in epsxe adds lag and none of the cave ports to the system were particularly good well not compared to arcade perfect mame anyway.

[JGcontraman]

Idk, I don't have a huge problem with the PSX roms I have. Stupid question but is there like a listing of shooters that didn't work in regular mame for shmupmame? Perhaps its in the application itself but idk, just curious.

[IseeThings]

Idk, I don't have a huge problem with the PSX roms I have. Stupid question but is there like a listing of shooters that didn't work in regular mame for shmupmame? Perhaps its in the application itself but idk, just curious.

There are 0 shooters (or other games for that matter) which work in Shmupmame but don't work in a regular 0.140u3 MAME.

All Shmupmame does is add some hacks (which will never be included in main MAME) which reduce lag by breaking the video emulation in certain titles (removing the sprite buffers which are present on real hardware) It's not some kind of magic. I prefer proper emulation with lag myself.

MAME 0.140u3 even has improvements to Fire Barrel which allow it to run much better than Shmupmame.

[emphatic]

n Shmupmame but don't work in a regular 0.140u3 MAME.

All Shmupmame does is add some hacks (which will never be included in main MAME) which reduce lag by breaking the video emulation in certain titles (removing the sprite buffers which are present on real hardware) It's not some kind of magic. I prefer proper emulation with lag myself.

MAME 0.140u3 even has improvements to Fire Barrel which allow it to run much better than Shmupmame.

Are the Toaplan fixes from back in August included now btw?

[ratsflif]

Here are some builds of the new mame 140u3 with the nag screens removed and the hi score patch applied. I made these for myself and some friends so I might as well post them here for everyone. Im working with someone on another forum to get the cabmame diffs working on this release and will post them if it gets figured out.

32bit

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=V2HO4UY0

x64

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=4BT7TV2W

[IseeThings]

n Shmupmame but don't work in a regular 0.140u3 MAME.

All Shmupmame does is add some hacks (which will never be included in main MAME) which reduce lag by breaking the video emulation in certain titles (removing the sprite buffers which are present on real hardware) It's not some kind of magic. I prefer proper emulation with lag myself.

MAME 0.140u3 even has improvements to Fire Barrel which allow it to run much better than Shmupmame.

Are the Toaplan fixes from back in August included now btw?

Yep, they've been in since about August. One minor fix was made since then, but visually Batsugun should be perfect in current builds. All known oddities (such as the White background on the English ending) have been verified against the PCB and also occur there.

The V25/V35 core added in 0.140u3 is also the next step towards giving it proper sound emulation (some core features still need adding but the framework in which to add them now exists)
Several other games will then have sound when they're decrypted (V-Five, Grind Stormer, Fix Eight, Dogyuun, Knuckle Bash) which should only be a matter of time.

The older games are a bit harder. For Vimana, Fire Shark, Ghox, Teki Paki + Japan PCB of Whoopee decapping will be needed because the entire sound CPU ROM is internal.
See http://decap.mameworld.info/

Decapping involves having the CPUs (and preferably some spares, it can go wrong) as well as money. For the SNES DSP chips he just did the price was $250 each. Depending on the chip the price will vary. Without decapping it simply isn't possible to emulate the sound CPUs on those games, because there is no code or music data dumped, only the samples. Some people have simulated the sound by hacking in OST music samples but that isn't going to give you an authentic experience.

[Observer]

Back to Espgaluda... Guys, I didn't recall the game being this easy. I reached stage 4 on my first run with a score of 10 million or so (awful I guess since the second extend is 14 million so that must mean you can get it by stage 2 or something?).

When I played this at a friend's house, on the PS2, I got my ass handed on stage 2 and let's not even talk about the score...

Anyway, what an awesome game. If anything, this is one of those that could use the high resolution graphics treatment and a re-release.

edit: and the music, while unfitting, is punchi punchi of the good kind.

edit2: SCOREBOARD WHERE? Can we submit?

[BPzeBanshee]

Back to Espgaluda... Guys, I didn't recall the game being this easy. I reached stage 4 on my first run with a score of 10 million or so (awful I guess since the second extend is 14 million so that must mean you can get it by stage 2 or something?).

When I played this at a friend's house, on the PS2, I got my ass handed on stage 2 and let's not even talk about the score...

Anyway, what an awesome game. If anything, this is one of those that could use the high resolution graphics treatment and a re-release.

edit: and the music, while unfitting, is punchi punchi of the good kind.

edit2: SCOREBOARD WHERE? Can we submit?

I ran this on PCSX2 the other day for the first time in a year and I got to Stage 4. Your settings must be different from mine.
(Arrange Mode WILL whoop your ass guaranteed though)

[david peterson]

Yep this game is easy already 1cced it tonight , still a good game for the scorers . I do think it really does pale in comparison to ketsui and ddp black label though , Ketsui was the real prize here for me anyway .

[DragonInstall]

Yeah this game is rather simple especially if you played Esp II BL.

[captpain]

Cool, now I can lose my credit EVERY SINGLE TIME at the last pattern of the last boss, but in MAME instead of on the PS2! I hate the world!

[littlenemo]

Hi there and thank you for that brilliant xmas present, I ll have a question to proper unpack it if you might ^^ :

Yes. Rename them, add in PGM BIOS (pgm_t01s.rom) and the program ROM from the 140u2 release (espgaluda_v100.u38), zip it up and you'll be good.

This is how your espgal.zip should look when you're done:

I just can't find the espgaluda_v100.u38 rom , where is it supposed to be (if this information can be told here of course) ?

I retrieved a build of the 140u2 version (UI64) but can't find the rom anywhere in it, was it in the diff file on mame official site (it's down at the moment I can't verify) ?

Thank you in advance and good game !

[BPzeBanshee]

Hi there and thank you for that brilliant xmas present, I ll have a question to proper unpack it if you might ^^ :

Yes. Rename them, add in PGM BIOS (pgm_t01s.rom) and the program ROM from the 140u2 release (espgaluda_v100.u38), zip it up and you'll be good.

This is how your espgal.zip should look when you're done:

I just can't find the espgaluda_v100.u38 rom , where is it supposed to be (if this information can be told here of course) ?

I retrieved a build of the 140u2 version (UI64) but can't find the rom anywhere in it, was it in the diff file on mame official site (it's down at the moment I can't verify) ?

Thank you in advance and good game !

Google the name and you'll find it, it was in an 'update pack' for MAME .140 u2 some time ago.

[Matsunaga]

Got to the last boss on my first MAME credit, runs great!

[BPzeBanshee]

Got to the last boss on my first MAME credit, runs great!

Did better than me, I can't get past Stage 4.

[ratsflif]

I got to stage 5 on my first game... Runs much better than the ps2 emulator. I see another 1cc in the near future.

[littlenemo]

Hi there and thank you for that brilliant xmas present, I ll have a question to proper unpack it if you might ^^ :

Yes. Rename them, add in PGM BIOS (pgm_t01s.rom) and the program ROM from the 140u2 release (espgaluda_v100.u38), zip it up and you'll be good.

This is how your espgal.zip should look when you're done:

I just can't find the espgaluda_v100.u38 rom , where is it supposed to be (if this information can be told here of course) ?

I retrieved a build of the 140u2 version (UI64) but can't find the rom anywhere in it, was it in the diff file on mame official site (it's down at the moment I can't verify) ?

Thank you in advance and good game !

Google the name and you'll find it, it was in an 'update pack' for MAME .140 u2 some time ago.

I'v been googling "espgaluda_v100.u38" for the 3 past hours without finding anything.... if it's inside a heavy package over multiple Go I won't able to retrieve it (my windows bootcamp partition is almost full on my mac..), any other way ?

[cstle]

I'v been googling "espgaluda_v100.u38" for the 3 past hours without finding anything.... if it's inside a heavy package over multiple Go I won't able to retrieve it (my windows bootcamp partition is almost full on my mac..), any other way ?

It was in espgal.zip for MAME 140u2

[littlenemo]

It was in espgal.zip for MAME 140u2

I got that but where in MAME 140u2, in wich file ? Is it inside a specifical build of it ? In a specifical package ? The MAMe official site has been down for hours I can't verify, I just don't know what exactly you are referring to ? Or maybe it's a link you can't give in here ?

[BPzeBanshee]

It was in espgal.zip for MAME 140u2

I got that but where in MAME 140u2, in wich file ? Is it inside a specifical build of it ? In a specifical package ? The MAMe official site has been down for hours I can't verify, I just don't know what exactly you are referring to ? Or maybe it's a link you can't give in here ?

It's not included with MAME 140u2, you gotta find it. We can't post direct links to it here because it's against the rules.
Just google 'MAME .140u2 Update ROMs' and you should find the file, or just type in the filename you're looking for.

[littlenemo]

It's not included with MAME 140u2, you gotta find it. We can't post direct links to it here because it's against the rules.
Just google 'MAME .140u2 Update ROMs' and you should find the file, or just type in the filename you're looking for.

Thanks for making it clear I wasn't sure about that, I v been trying to do that for hours now and found nothing, guess I'll have to PM someone...

Thank you anyway and merry xmas )

[Dave_K.]

Thanks for making it clear I wasn't sure about that, I v been trying to do that for hours now and found nothing, guess I'll have to PM someone...

Thank you anyway and merry xmas )

Try PM'ing "system11", he should take care of you.

[Matsunaga]

Got to the last boss on my first MAME credit, runs great!

Did better than me, I can't get past Stage 4.

Don't feel bad, I've had it for years on PS2

[autumndrone]

Im working with someone on another forum to get the cabmame diffs working on this release and will post them if it gets figured out.

I've seen the thread on arcadecontrols.com and the latest build seems to be working. I tweaked the default ini values otherwise mame force the screen in powersave on startup. The other problem is that the image is not centered.

[emphatic]

Here are some builds of the new mame 140u3 with the nag screens removed and the hi score patch applied. I made these for myself and some friends so I might as well post them here for everyone. Im working with someone on another forum to get the cabmame diffs working on this release and will post them if it gets figured out.

Great work. Will this only be of interest when using Soft15kHz or ArcadeVGA, or is this of interest when just running the games in 480p on a CRT unfiltered as well? I just want smooth, tear-free video in TATE.

[Drachenherz]

Cool, now I can lose my credit EVERY SINGLE TIME at the last pattern of the last boss, but in MAME instead of on the PS2! I hate the world!

Savestate. Practice. Profit.

[jonny5]

Thanks for making it clear I wasn't sure about that, I v been trying to do that for hours now and found nothing, guess I'll have to PM someone...

Thank you anyway and merry xmas )

Try PM'ing "system11", he should take care of you.

good idea Dave