ibara PCB or PS2 CD?

[MintyTheCat]

Hello all,

I have a tough decision: should I get the PS2 or the PCB of ibara? I have fallen in love with the game after playing it in the arcade and I want it

So two questions:

1. How much should I be paying for a second hand PCB or PS2 CD?

2. Which should I go for?

Any help you guys can give is appreciated.

Thanks

[Xexyz]

It's a DVD not a CD damnit!!!

Just messin, but if you have the means to play PCB's I'd definitely go that route over the PS2 port. PS2 port is far from arcade perfect and it isn't much cheaper than the PCB on the 2nd hand market.

[MintyTheCat]

I know what you mean by prices but I have been offered £250 for the PCB and the game would cost me around £120 for the 'DVD'

I have seen the blessed "loading" screening on the PS2 version - that would irritate me

[clp]

I find the ps2 port fine and it does have arrange mode which has been preferred by a fair number of people , however if you have the money and setup for a pcb then yeh do it . Oh yeh ps2 has practice mode to with a rank bar so really owning both would be worth whilst lol .

[emphatic]

You should've made this post a Poll.

My vote goes to PCB.

[Shuurin]

By the time I got to try Ibara on ps2 my ps2 was on its last legs and the background kept flickering out/distorted. Plus disc reading issues so I can't say much for it. Owning the pcb it gets the most play time of anything I own for my cab. Strongly recommend the pcb if its an option available to you.

[cools]

I know what you mean by prices but I have been offered £250 for the PCB and the game would cost me around £120 for the 'DVD'

I have seen the blessed "loading" screening on the PS2 version - that would irritate me

You're being gouged on both counts.

[MintyTheCat]

I know what you mean by prices but I have been offered £250 for the PCB and the game would cost me around £120 for the 'DVD'

I have seen the blessed "loading" screening on the PS2 version - that would irritate me

You're being gouged on both counts.

Any ideas on what a fair price would be at all?

[THE]

I vote for PCB. The PS2 ports are for my personal taste garbage.

The PCB should cost around 150-180 EUR.
Kits with everything except the box, are quite common. The box lives probably with another PCB now

[jepjepjep]

+1 vote for PCB.

As a price estimate, I paid $200+shipping earlier this year, although I may have gotten lucky since the seller was offloading a bunch of stuff and I believe the demand for Ibara is growing.

[mesh control]

I don't think the PS2 port is worth the money it fetches. Sold my copy after straining my eyes for 2 months.

[Obiwanshinobi]

The problem with Ibara on the PS2 is that it's uglyfied severely (so is Mushihime-sama) and hardly has any slowdown. DonPachi and DoDonPachi (PSX) as well as Espgaluda and DDP DOJ (PS2) recreate the arcade graphics more or less perfectly. Espgaluda and DOJ are hailed as "arcade perfect" ports by some, whereas Ibara certainly won't look and run just like you remember from the arcade if memory serves you right. Moreover, yoko mode in Ibara is virtually useless (DOJ is at least playable in yoko).

[dan76]

Wait for the (rumoured) 360 port - You'll get Kuro as well... if it happens.

Edit: had trouble accessing the site - here's the link:
http://www.cave-stg.com/forum/index.php?topic=1069.0

[Icarus]

Wait for the (rumoured) 360 port - You'll get Kuro as well... if it happens.

Sauce plz.

[professor ganson]

I didn't come to love this game until I played the PCB. Looked so great that I was finally willing to spend some real time with it, and then I realized how truly great the game is. One of my all-time favorites.

[TrevHead (TVR)]

Are the problems with Ibara ps2 the same as Mushimisama ps2 in that the console is underpowered for it to run smoothly 100% of the time? If thats the case then emulation might be preferable to playing them on the real console. Dunno how good ibara or Mushi emulation is atm though.
Whilst playing games on a real console is usually better, emulation can fix unintended slowdown though sheer horsepower.

Ps2 or PCB? Ild say PCB If you allready have a supergun and anthing else needed to play the pcb. If youre a PCB novice it might be worth finding out if the pcb has any pecularities like those exploding batteries / capacitors i ive heard some DOJ boards have.

Doesnt PS2 have an arrange mode? how good is it?

[captpain]

The PS2 port has the most heinous filtering/blur-o-vision problem of any shmup I've seen on the platform.

[Dave_K.]

The PS2 port has the most heinous filtering/blur-o-vision problem of any shmup I've seen on the platform.

There is a 240p hack/patch that removes the interlaced filter, making it much better looking (although still not 100% to PCB).

[captpain]

The PS2 port has the most heinous filtering/blur-o-vision problem of any shmup I've seen on the platform.

There is a 240p hack/patch that removes the interlaced filter, making it much better looking (although still not 100% to PCB).

It's not the interlacing, it's the filtering. I think it's mentioned in that thread that it's not an issue that's easily (or even possibly) fixed.

[PC Engine Fan X!]

I first got the PS2 port of Ibara and was not too pleased with the fuzzy looking graphics...came across an opportunity to get an Ibara PCB kit and I'll have to say that the PCB version is the one to get. You won't regret going the PCB route with Ibara.

What's cool about the Ibara PCB version is that the back-up battery does keep a real time clock + calendar & will even show the time right down to the minute hand ticking away on a certain stage during a demo run. How cool is that? Plus the fact that the Cave SH-3 based arcade platform that Ibara runs on is quite tiny compared to some of those huge behemoth arcade PCBs from the mid-1980s say like Capcom's "Hyper Dyne Sidearms" PCB.

PC Engine Fan X! ^_~

[Chacranajxy]

Wait for the (rumoured) 360 port - You'll get Kuro as well... if it happens.

Where did this rumor come from?

[drunkninja24]

Wait for the (rumoured) 360 port - You'll get Kuro as well... if it happens.

Where did this rumor come from?

http://www.cave-stg.com/forum/index.php?topic=1069.0

[TrevHead (TVR)]

Ahh i really is good to be able to access that site again and read up on the strategies

If cave were to bring ibara to the 360 ild hope they port the arcade original and not the ps2 version

[Chacranajxy]

Nice... would really like to see a two pack with Ibara and Mushihime, as the ports for the PS2 were absolutely terrible. That filter was pretty horrible stuff.

[dan76]

Wait for the (rumoured) 360 port - You'll get Kuro as well... if it happens.

Where did this rumor come from?

http://www.cave-stg.com/forum/index.php?topic=1069.0

Thanks, I couldn't get to the site for some reason - I've edited the original post with the link.

Anyhow, the lack of slowdown in the PS2 version has stopped me from putting any time into it. Arrange mode is good for what it is though.

[Obiwanshinobi]

Are the problems with Ibara ps2 the same as Mushimisama ps2 in that the console is underpowered for it to run smoothly 100% of the time?

Quite the opposite, many people's complaint was the LACK of slowdown in the PS2 port of Ibara. It's just the shoddy port thingy: lack of slowdown + interlacing + filtering (all this Yagawa circus is there going at more than full speed; it just looks ugly). DOJ and Espgaluda on the PS2 didn't have any of those problems.

[drunkninja24]

Are the problems with Ibara ps2 the same as Mushimisama ps2 in that the console is underpowered for it to run smoothly 100% of the time?

Quite the opposite, many people's complaint was the LACK of slowdown in the PS2 port of Ibara. It's just the shoddy port thingy: lack of slowdown + interlacing + filtering (all this Yagawa circus is there going at more than full speed; it just looks ugly). DOJ and Espgaluda on the PS2 didn't have any of those problems.

Yeah, the slowdown differences are quite apparent in Ibara if you've played the PCB, especially in Stage 3 (and probably further on as well, that's just where I definitely noticed it).

[kengou]

I only really like arrange mode so I'd have to recommend the PS2 version.

[roker]

Yeah, the slowdown differences are quite apparent in Ibara if you've played the PCB, especially in Stage 3 (and probably further on as well, that's just where I definitely noticed it).

I stopped playing the PS2 port once I got a chance to spend some time with the PCB.

The lack of slowdown on the 2nd and 3rd stage bosses make them about 2 times harder on the PS2 version.

It's brutal and hardly satisfying (as opposed to God mode in Futari which is brutal and thoroughly satisfying).

I'm usually not a slowdown nut, but this game has to be one of the hardest I've ever played.

It makes Battle Garegga look like a kids game.

[chempop]

The lack of slowdown on the 2nd and 3rd stage bosses make them about 2 times harder on the PS2 version.

So that's what's wrong with me when I try to play this damn game... Ugh!

Never played the PCB but you'd be crazy not to want it over the shoddy PS2 port. For what it's worth, I don't mind the PS2 Mushi port, but Ibara seems way off.