Dracula/Castlevania 3D may not suck forever...

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Dracula/Castlevania 3D may not suck forever...

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Well, the next game, like the first, and the two N64 efforts will suck assuredly (although I have to admit the second the N64 game which ditched the whole whip thing was decent but then that really isn't in keeping with the series).

Turns out Konami have come to their senses and realized that they are completely incompetent when it comes to turning the Dracula franchise into a 3D powerhouse so they've asked the assmunch David Jaffe (of God of War fame) to possibly become involved in an as yet unannounced PS3 Dracula game.

Sounds like good news, I loved GoW to pieces and this may require me to buy a home console Castlevania game for the first time since SotN.

http://wham.canoe.ca/news/2005/07/20/1139926-dcs.html

[news ripped from GAF]
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Hmm... yeah, GoW is pretty good, but it's no Castlevania. I dunno an American team might (again, might) be able to nail the gameplay, but what about the art direction? That's one of the best things about the series.
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Have we forgotten what happened the last time Konami let an american developer play with one of their franchises?

Contra Legacy of War, and C: The Contra Adventure. Those who do not learn from history, are doomed to repeat it.
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Hell, I'm sick of all this action-RPG shit Iga's turned the Vania series into...someone at Konami get smart and give gamers a return to the series; hi-res sprites in 2D scrolling fashion of Dracula X.

that would rock my world so hard, so very hard.
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LoneSage wrote:Hell, I'm sick of all this action-RPG shit Iga's turned the Vania series into...someone at Konami get smart and give gamers a return to the series; hi-res sprites in 2D scrolling fashion of Dracula X.

that would rock my world so hard, so very hard.
Yes, that would and that would be pretty much ever Dracula fan's first choice but a good second would be a 3D game that didn't blow nuts and at least there is some hope now.
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The whole time I played God of War I kept thinking to myself "This is what a 3d castlevania should play like". I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one.
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username wrote:The whole time I played God of War I kept thinking to myself "This is what a 3d castlevania should play like". I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one.
I was thinking this is what a 3D beat-em-up should play like.
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Iga wouldn't be striving so hard to recreate Symphony of the Night if everyone didn't hold it so highly.

Don't get all pissy at the man for giving you what you asked for.
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Moogs wrote:Iga wouldn't be striving so hard to recreate Symphony of the Night if everyone didn't hold it so highly.

Don't get all pissy at the man for giving you what you asked for.
Actually, Iga wants to make a 2D Castlevania for PS2 (I assume Akumajou Dracula X 3), but the heads at Konami keep shooting him down, telling him it wouldn't sell (apparently they're on crack, but his hands are tied). That's why he's been rather gun-ho on the GBA and now the DS, since they're seen as "the last bastion of 2D gaming".

I guess we can hope that after the PS3's release, they'll let him have his "pet project" on the PS2.
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LoneSage wrote:Hell, I'm sick of all this action-RPG shit Iga's turned the Vania series into...someone at Konami get smart and give gamers a return to the series; hi-res sprites in 2D scrolling fashion of Dracula X.

that would rock my world so hard, so very hard.
finally.

2D High Res.

For me too.

Like the (*takes deep breath*) Fighter's History Dynamite/Karnov's Revenge Clown aviator.

2D High Res for everybody.
They should just Guilty Gear every 2D concept!

Might take a little longer though.
The 3D hype has to settle down.

Perhaps in a few years Mr. average gamer might NOT be laughing his dumbass off when he sees/discusses 2D games. Ever experienced one of these types. They are the same types that lauggh when their pc is a Pentium4 and you have a Pentium3, and they are laughing like idiots. It's not that I'm jealous or that I'm mad at being laughed at, but it's just so dumb.

Sorry I got a little carried away there.
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I still don't see what the heck's so bad about LOI. Yes it's repetitive, but I personally don't mind running down the same hallways when they're drop dead gorgeous! Particularly in the first stage, whith the light streaming through the stained-glass windows.

And Curse of Darkness, which is coming out this fall, looks amazing. I haven't played N64 Castlevania, but overall, I'd say Konami's done a fine job bringing the series into 3D. :?
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Kiken wrote:
Moogs wrote:Iga wouldn't be striving so hard to recreate Symphony of the Night if everyone didn't hold it so highly.

Don't get all pissy at the man for giving you what you asked for.
Actually, Iga wants to make a 2D Castlevania for PS2 (I assume Akumajou Dracula X 3), but the heads at Konami keep shooting him down, telling him it wouldn't sell (apparently they're on crack, but his hands are tied). That's why he's been rather gun-ho on the GBA and now the DS, since they're seen as "the last bastion of 2D gaming".

I guess we can hope that after the PS3's release, they'll let him have his "pet project" on the PS2.
There's no doubt in my mind that the man wants to make a 2D Castlevania outside the handheld format, and I'd certainly be all for it, but I don't think it's fair when people attack him for integrating RPG elements into the series when he took hold of the reigns. I mean, yeah, Iga swears up and down that Castlevania III is his favourite in the series, and going by his body of work you have to wonder if he's even PLAYED Castlevania III, but I still like what he's done.
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dave4shmups wrote:I still don't see what the heck's so bad about LOI. Yes it's repetitive, but I personally don't mind running down the same hallways when they're drop dead gorgeous!
Except they're literally the same hallways over and over. It you remove the blatantly copy-and-pasted areas from the game, the thing would probably be less than half its current size. And these areas weren't particularly interesting to begin with... a room might be beautiful, but as far as gameplay goes it's just a big empty cube. It's the kind of area that's filler in most games, yet in LoI it's the meat.

Taken completely in a vacuum, I guess LoI is okay. But it doesn't exist in a vacuum, and most games in the Devil May Cry style trump it easily, so there's really no reason at all to bother with it unless you're a huge Castlevania fan, at which point you're playing it more for the name than the gameplay.
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These games just don't work in 3D well.
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Eh...I want another one like Bloodlines. Symphony was fantastic but a straight action game would be great.

(I'd say Rondo but I've never actually gotten to play it)
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Blasphemy! No American team better touch Castlevania! Off with thier heads!

... then again i'm getting sick of Iga's Metroid style CV's. It's not that thier bad or anything - i just want an old-school action/platformer CV like part 4 or Bloodlines. That would be awesome.

And all of the 3d CV's suck my butt.
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circuitface wrote:Blasphemy! No American team better touch Castlevania! Off with thier heads!

... then again i'm getting sick of Iga's Metroid style CV's. It's not that thier bad or anything - i just want an old-school action/platformer CV like part 4 or Bloodlines. That would be awesome.

And all of the 3d CV's suck my butt.
The Metroid-vanias (both SotN and HoD on the GBA - the series just sucked more and more on the GBA as time went along) are pretty decent but they still don't hold a candle to Dracula X PCE. Part IV was weak though and Bloodlines was above average but still not a patch on X. I would love it if the X team did an updated high res game in the same style.
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Bar81 wrote:
username wrote:The whole time I played God of War I kept thinking to myself "This is what a 3d castlevania should play like". I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one.
I was thinking this is what a 3D beat-em-up should play like.
Well, it does resemble a beat 'em up more than a traditional Castlevania game, but seeing how the blades Kratos uses act very similar to whips, that is what struck me in my mind while playing it.
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