Trigger Heart Exelica... Why the hate???

[crackfox]

Just wondered why many people hate this game?
Seems to get a lot of shit coming its way??
Enlighten me as to why...
Very enjoyable IMO.....
Form an orderly queue please....

[PsychoGun]

I don't hate it, I had a lot of fun with it. It's what low budget shooters should be like.

[njiska]

I love it. Simple, neat mechanics, great rank system. Unfortunately i really suck jacking up said ranking system.

[DietSoap]

As someone who sucks ass at this (and pretty much every other) game, my main beef is how weak the shots feel in this game.

Obviously that wouldn't be much of a problem if I enjoyed the swing mechanic, but I don't. Infact I hate it... I hate it so goddamn much...

[PsychoGun]

As someone who sucks ass at this (and pretty much every other) game, my main beef is how weak the shots feel in this game.

Obviously that wouldn't be much of a problem if I enjoyed the swing mechanic, but I don't. Infact I hate it... I hate so goddamn much...

Yeah the shot is weak as hell, but you're supposed to be constantly throwing shit anyway.

[Shuurin]

This game is amazing fun for a shooter, just wish the bomb did a little more. Swinging ships into each other is a great stress reliever. The 360 version is quite nice looking on a hi-res screen, and the music is catchy. Playing the game makes me want to eat a bowl of corn pops from the way the medals look . Its a shame the ps2 port wasn't of a higher quality.

[crackfox]

a bit more love than hate at the moment....
i am pleasently suprised!!!

[BulletMagnet]

Playing the game makes me want to eat a bowl of corn pops from the way the medals look

Heh, that really is exactly what they look like.

[Matsunaga]

I don't like it. It's ugly and boring.

[Domino]

Terrible music, terrible graphics and art-style, and mediocre gameplay.

[kengou]

I also like it. Interesting swing mechanic, decent overall gameplay.

[chempop]

I was always surprised that so many people like this game.

Corn puffs comment made me laugh

[Drum]

Goddamnit. I'd heard about the game but I dismissed it because of bad impressions - I'd never played it or seen it in motion.

Saw this thread and I got curious so I looked it up on youtube. Heartbreak - the game I'm working on has a pretty similar swing mechanic and I really, really don't want to invite comparisons to this.
Luckily it's an auxiliary mechanic in my game so I can dump it or just leave it in without feeling too bad, but damn.

[brokenhalo]

i really got into the 360 port of this game and had a blast with it. the swinging mechanic is satisfying once you figure out how to use it effectively. the scoring is intuitive and fairly flexible. and the difficulty is such that a couple weeks of practice and just about anyone should be able to net the true 1cc. it's a fun little game.

[ケツイ]

Good game IMO, not an excellent game, only a good game

[apple arcade]

I like the game a lot.

The biggest down fall though is the graphics. They're so square and bland.

Love the character designs. Wish they would make a sequal, perhaps with better/less factory like atmosphere.

I agree that Exelica's shot is weak.

The DC has an arranged version which in my opinion is the most enjoyable.

[evil_ash_xero]

Well, for me it's the presentation mainly. Graphics aren't to my liking.

[gennss]

I like it a lot. I have XBLA, Regular DC and Special Ed DC Versions.

[supergrafx77]

I hate it! Just another doujin if you ask me. I don't even like knowing it is on my 360. Waste of money and time when there are better things to play IMO.

[Deca]

Eh, at least it's not gundemonium.

I'm almost tempted to go back and give Excelica another try, I haven't played it since it came out.

[KindGrind]

I like it. It plays pretty well. The bright colors, overall roundness of the game, funny sounds and -yeah, I admit it- terrible music doesn't appeal to fans of the dirty/gritty look of Raizing games, where everything is black, metal and skulls.

[agustusx]

the presentation, music, visuals and loli-mechs are a put off, but when I actually gave the game a serious anchor shot I found it to be enjoyable in small doses.

I can see how many wouldn't venture too far however, the sound effects wear on ya.

[Slump]

Yeah, I always thought the game was pretty enjoyable but it does lack something to keep me coming back to it time after time. Like others have said though it's pretty good in small doses and can be really engaging. It doesn't deserve hate but it doesn't necessarily deserve much praise either.

[afoia]

Yeah, I always thought the game was pretty enjoyable but it does lack something to keep me coming back to it time after time. Like others have said though it's pretty good in small doses and can be really engaging. It doesn't deserve hate but it doesn't necessarily deserve much praise either.

For me the artwork is cute, and.....thats about it. I just cant get to grips with the swinging mechanic at all, and for me its easier just to shoot than swing. Maybe i just suck in general. Does anyone else do the same?

[Strider77]

I think most don't like it b/c it's really sub-par.... in about all ways. Home made is another way to put it. I can't stand it myself. I'd rather play trizeal... well maybe not, I'd have to have a gun pointed at my head to make that call.

[evil_ash_xero]

I like how we got two threads going...one about how Ikaruga is over-rated, and one how Triggerheart is under appreciated.

[Dodger]

I dig it...although it is very short. Seems like I'm just getting into it and its over. Graphics on the 360 are cool and I do like the anchoring feature, although I kinda suck at it. I rock it every once in awhile son.

[Sturmvogel Prime]

There's things that i like and hate about this game

The things that i like
- The Anchor Feature
- Scoring System
- Nice Artwork
- Cute and Sexy characters (Crueltear, although her name sounds like a Decepticon rather than a Triggerheart)

The things that i hate (Dreamcast)
- The Character Variety is very basic.
- Arrange Mode is an unfair and unnecessary game mode.
- Photoshop-Made Clouds.
- Midi-like Music, sounds like if Kajihara doesn't know how to use a synthesizer.
- Countdown to unpause, what kind of idiotic thing is that?
- In-game interruptions in Story Mode, works well on RPG's but not in Shmups.
- Endings are one huge letdown, probably the biggest letdown in both shmup and videogame history.
- No Unlockables, that sucks.


And the thins that i hate from Enhanced (PS2)
- ''Gravity Error'', Although the song is good, J-Pop doesn't work for a shmup, (compare that with Psyvariar 2 or Thunder Force V)
- The ''Wallpapers'' are the same of the XBLA version, the only new one is Triggerheart Faintear.
- No ''Two Player'' Mode.
- No Sound Test.
- Training Mode passed trough unnecesary changes.
- Faintear is already playable from the beginning.
- Faintear's speed is an exaggeration.
- One pic of Faintear for the whole game.
- C'r_na is not playable (what a waste of a new character).
- Faintear Imitate is not playable.
- No Shield Item in the game, just a 3 second after-hit defense.
- Auto-Swing has random rotation.
- Stage 0 is too short.
- Stage 0 has the same music of Stage 1.
- No boss battles in Stage 0
- More In-game Interruptions (talking parts) in Story Mode.
- The Cutscenes are just Cross-fading CG's instead of anime cutscenes.
- Natsuko Kuwatani as Faintear Imitate, she doesn't have what it takes to replace Yuko Ishibashi.
- Voice "Cut-offs", the game can't handle two voice samples simultaneously.
- The ''Opening animations'' of the bosses.
- No music in the Rank In screen.
- Faintear doesn't have a ''sequence'' for her bad ending.
- The Gallery is just the Story Mode CG Cutscenes.

If anyone needs more details, check my reviews
http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?t=22717 (Dreamcast)
http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?t=25585 (PlayStation 2)

[Daigohji]

I like this game, despite not being very good at it. The swing mechanic just makes it play so differently from most verts.

[stryc9]

Have to agree it's certainly not the best shooter on the planet, mostly because of the weak shots, but the swing mechanic is good, it takes some practice but once you have complete control the game becomes a lot more enjoyable. Whats with Strider 77's comment? Trizeal is a great Raiden clone thats quite a bit better than THA.