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8th Annual Top 25 Shmups of All Time! - Results

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Top 25 Shmups of All Time (through 2009)

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Game                                               Score '02 '03 '04 '05 '06 '07 '08
01  Battle Garegga (SAT/ARC)                        6.64   +   +   *   +   +   +   .
02  Dodonpachi (ARC/SAT/PS1)                        6.20   -   -   -   -   -   +   .
03  Ketsui kizuna jigoku tachi (ARC)                5.57   *   *   *   *   *   *   +
04  Armed Police Batrider (ARC)                     5.23   *   *   +   *   .   +   +
05  Gradius V (PS2)                                 5.11   *   *   -   -   -   -   +
06  Ikaruga (DC/AC/360)                             4.94   -   -   -   -   -   -   +
07  Raiden Fighters Jet (ARC/360)                   4.72   *   *   *   *   *   *   +
08  R-Type (ARC/SMS/PS1/et al)                      4.59   +   -   +   -   *   +   +
09  Mushihimesama Futari 1.5 (ARC/360)              4.40   *   *   *   *   *   *   +
10  Mars Matrix (ARC/DC)                            4.18   +   +   +   -   +   +   +
11  Espgaluda II (ARC)                              4.12   *   *   *   *   *   *   *
12  Espgaluda (PS2/ARC)                             3.90   *   *   +   -   -   -   -
13  Dodonpachi daioujou (PS2/ARC)                   3.71   *   +   .   .   -   -   -
14  Radiant Silvergun (SAT/ARC)                     3.48   -   -   -   -   -   -   -
15  Dangun Feveron (ARC)                            3.27   *   *   *   *   *   *   +
16  Guwange (ARC)                                   3.06   -   -   *   -   *   -   -
17  Gradius Gaiden (PS1)                            3.05   +   +   -   -   -   -   *
18  Gunbird 2 (ARC/DC)                              3.04   +   -   -   +   -   *   *
19  Soukyugurentai/Terra Diver (SAT/PS1/ARC)        2.99   +   -   -   -   +   .   *
20  Strikers 1945 II (ARC/PS1/SAT/PS2)              2.93   -   -   -   -   *   +   .
21  Mushihimesama (ARC/PS2)                         2.86   *   *   *   -   -   -   -
22  Ibara (ARC/PS2)                                 2.82   *   *   *   *   *   +   -
23  Batsugun/Batsugun Special Ver. (ARC/SAT)        2.82   *   -   -   *   -   -   -
24  Mushihimesama Futari Black Label (ARC/360)      2.77   *   *   *   *   *   *   *
25  Giga Wing (ARC/DC)                              2.76   *   -   -   -   -   -   -
  • . denotes the game holds the same position now as the year indicated.
  • + denotes the game holds an improved standing compared to the year indicated.
  • - denotes the game holds a reduced standing compared to the year indicated.
  • * denotes the game was not on the list for the year indicated.

Honourable Mention

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Game                                                     '02 '03 '04 '05 '06 '07 '08
Battle Bakraid (ARC)                                       +   .   .   .   .   .   .
Blazing Star (ARC)                                         .   +   .   .   .   .   .
Border Down (DC/ARC)                                       +   +   .   -   -   -   -
Darius Gaiden (SAT/ARC/PS2/PS1)                            +   +   .   .   .   .   .
Deathsmiles (ARC/360)                                      +   +   +   +   +   +   .
Dodonpachi Daioujou Black Label/Extra (ARC/360)            +   +   +   +   +   +   +
Donpachi (ARC/PS1/SAT)                                     -   -   -   .   .   .   .
Dragon Blaze (ARC/PS2)                                     +   +   .   .   .   .   .
Einhänder (PS1)                                            .   .   -   -   -   .   .
ESP ra.de. (ARC)                                           -   -   -   -   -   -   -
G-Darius (PS2/PC/PS1/ARC)                                  +   .   .   .   .   .   .
Gradius (ARC/NES/SAT/PS1/et al)                            .   .   .   +   +   +   +
Progear no Arashi (ARC)                                    +   +   +   .   .   -   -
Psyvariar 2: The Will to Fabricate (PS2/DC/ARC/Xbox)       +   +   +   +   +   +   .
R-Type Delta (PS1)                                         .   .   -   -   -   .   +
Raiden DX (PS1/ARC)                                        +   +   -   -   -   .   -
Raiden IV (ARC/360)                                        +   +   +   +   +   +   +
Rayforce/Layer Section/Gunlock (SAT/ARC)                   +   -   -   -   -   -   -
Shikigami no Shiro II (ARC/GC/DC/PS2/Xbox/PC)              +   +   -   -   -   -   .
Summer Carnival '92: Recca (FC)                            +   +   .   +   +   +   +
Thunderforce III (MD/GEN/SAT)                              -   -   -   -   -   -   .
Triggerheart Exelica (PS2/ARC/DC/360)                      +   +   +   +   +   +   +
Under Defeat (DC/ARC)                                      +   +   +   +   -   .   .
Zero Gunner 2 (DC/ARC)                                     +   -   .   .   +   +   .
  • . denotes the game was also on the HM list for the year indicated.
  • + denotes the game was on neither the HM list nor the top 25 for the year indicated.
  • - denotes the game was in the top 25 for the year indicated.


What Dropped from 2008's Top 25:
  • Border Down (ARC/DC)
  • ESP ra.de. (ARC)
  • Progear no Arashi (ARC)
  • Raiden DX (ARC/PS1)
  • Rayforce / Layer Section / Gunlock (ARC/SAT)
What Dropped from 2008's Honourable Mentions:
  • Kyukyoku Tiger/Twin Cobra (ARC/PS1/et al)
  • Strikers 1945 (ARC/SAT/PS1/PS2)
  • Thunderforce IV (MD/GEN/SAT)

Breakdown by Developer

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                   Top 25         Hon.M.          Overall
Cave                  11              5              16
Raizing                3              1               4
Psikyo                 2              2               4
Treasure               3              -               3
Seibu Kaihatsu         1              2               3
Taito                  -              3               3
Takumi                 2              -               2
Irem                   1              1               2
Konami                 1              1               2
G.Rev                  -              2               2
Toaplan                1              -               1
Alfa System            -              1               1
KID Corp.              -              1               1
Skonec                 -              1               1
Square                 -              1               1
Tecnosoft              -              1               1
Warashi                -              1               1
Yumekobo               -              1               1

Breakdown by Original Platform

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System             Top 25         Hon.M.          Overall
Arcade                23             20              43
PlayStation            1              2               3
PlayStation 2          1              -               1
Famicom                -              1               1
Sega Genesis           -              1               1

Miscellaneous Stats:
  • Number of Actual Voters: 92 (no scaled voters this year)
  • Number of Games Receiving Votes: 405
  • Games Supported by at least half of voters: 2
  • Games Supported by at least 1/4 of voters: 29
  • Number of Honourable Mentions: 24
  • Top 25 Score Spread: 2.765 - 6.647
  • Honourable Mention Score Spread: 1.383 - 2.669
  • Total Score Spread: 0.0753 - 6.647
Random Comments:
  • Gradius Gaiden and Soukyugurentai are back in the Top 25 after a year off. Gradius and Recca return to the Honourable Mention list after a 4-year hiatus.
  • Not a good year for Mushihimesama, Giga Wing, or Radiant Silvergun: each is at its lowest since joining the list. We have officers attempting to talk them down as we speak.
  • Dodonpachi daioujou returned to the 13th spot for its third nonconsecutive year. When asked for comment, it replied, "feels good, man."
  • Mushihimesama Futari appears twice in the Top 25, but doing so displaced ESP ra.de. for the first time in, well, ever.
  • Now only 4 games have been in every Top 25 so far: Dodonpachi, Ikaruga, Mars Matrix, and Radiant Silvergun.
  • This year features an expanded Honourable Mention list. Is good: the extra slots can be taken up with Black Label versions of every game until the Prince rolls them back up again.
  • The entire list will be posted later. Now available!
  • The discussion thread for this year's poll is here.
  • The votes for this year's poll can be found here.
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I am pleased.

Thanks for running the vote.
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Honorable Mention > Top 25 (imho)

Big props to incognoscente, Herr Schatten, and bloodflowers for making it all possible this year
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nZero wrote:Honorable Mention > Top 25 (imho)
Interesting point. They're both good, but I might prefer the honorable mention list as well.
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Many, many thanks to this year's organizers: it almost didn't happen, but you guys pulled it out of the fire. Kudos! :)

That said, my dream of Vasara and Cotton making their long-overdue appearances will have to wait 'til next year...
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Awesome! A well rounded list all around. Too bad the Darius vote was split. Boo! to Shikigami not making the list. Espgaluda2 jumped on it w/ a high placing! Can't wait to see the full list.
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Nice list! I'm very pleased to see Garegga still where it belongs to. :)
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Galaga is better than all of those games. :D
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Title and platform information are listed in descending order according to percentage of the merged vote. Votes for unspecified platforms are not marked in any special way, so you may see listings (like Mars Matrix (ARC)) which contain votes not explicitly for the platform(s) listed. Additionally some regional names are missing because no one voted for the game by the alternate title (e.g., Battle Mania would merge with Trouble Shooter... if anyone voted for the latter).

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     Top 25:

001. Battle Garegga (SAT)                                : 6.647923  52  2.731759
002. Dodonpachi                                          : 6.209512  51  2.384624
003. Ketsui kizuna jigoku tachi (ARC)                    : 5.579710  31  3.161967
004. Armed Police Batrider (ARC)                         : 5.235754  38  2.354526
005. Gradius V (PS2)                                     : 5.115052  43  1.896337
006. Ikaruga (DC)                                        : 4.944012  39  2.009044
007. Raiden Fighters Jet                                 : 4.723146  40  1.730794
008. R-Type (SMS/ARC/PS1)                                : 4.597496  35  1.955296
009. Mushihimesama Futari 1.5                            : 4.400855  34  1.837502
010. Mars Matrix (ARC)                                   : 4.183270  35  1.562366
011. Espgaluda II                                        : 4.124319  34  1.575183
012. Espgaluda (PS2)                                     : 3.907644  33  1.438387
013. Dodonpachi daioujou (PS2)                           : 3.714585  31  1.392727
014. Radiant Silvergun (SAT)                             : 3.488252  26  1.521723
015. Dangun Feveron                                      : 3.277091  30  1.046464
016. Guwange                                             : 3.069416  27  1.055681
017. Gradius Gaiden (PS1)                                : 3.058223  26  1.113802
018. Gunbird 2                                           : 3.047381  28  0.966041
019. Soukyugurentai/Terra Diver (SAT/PS1)                : 2.996925  27  0.986917
020. Strikers 1945 II                                    : 2.935215  27  0.928380
021. Mushihimesama                                       : 2.869657  24  1.072407
022. Ibara                                               : 2.826641  23  1.100341
023. Batsugun/Batsugun Special Ver.                      : 2.821614  24  1.026834
024. Mushihimesama Futari Black Label (360)              : 2.770555  19  1.322091
025. Giga Wing                                           : 2.765855  26  0.836464


     Honorable Mention:

026. ESP ra.de.                                          : 2.669144  24  0.882202
027. Rayforce/Layer Section (SAT)                        : 2.664942  22  1.015694
028. Progear no Arashi                                   : 2.621026  24  0.836557
029. Shikigami no Shiro II                               : 2.535736  23  0.824391
030. Dragon Blaze (ARC)                                  : 2.522442  23  0.811780
031. Deathsmiles                                         : 2.478755  19  1.045294
032. Darius Gaiden (SAT)                                 : 2.458315  24  0.682212
033. Raiden DX (PS1)                                     : 2.419084  17  1.126167
034. Border Down (DC)                                    : 2.353343  20  0.857590
035. Einhänder (PS1)                                     : 2.156098  20  0.670485
036. Battle Bakraid                                      : 2.123771  19  0.708560
037. Zero Gunner 2 (DC)                                  : 2.121433  20  0.637603
038. G-Darius (PS2/PC/PS1)                               : 2.016190  18  0.675247
039. R-Type Delta (PS1)                                  : 1.928050  17  0.660376
040. Summer Carnival '92: Recca                          : 1.844414  17  0.581041
041. Under Defeat (DC)                                   : 1.815254  17  0.553379
042. Donpachi                                            : 1.766232  16  0.575616
043. Psyvariar 2: The Will to Fabricate (PS2)            : 1.754732  15  0.633446
044. Thunderforce III                                    : 1.700661  15  0.582154
045. Triggerheart Exelica (PS2)                          : 1.601403  15  0.488000
046. Raiden IV                                           : 1.454896  13  0.486501
047. Blazing Star                                        : 1.449914  14  0.413036
048. Gradius (ARC/NES)                                   : 1.408401  13  0.442396
049. Dodonpachi Daioujou Black Label/Extra               : 1.383368  10  0.624866


     The Rest:

050. Dimahoo/Great Mahou Daisakusen                      : 1.355158  13  0.391890
051. Thunder Force V (SAT/PS1)                           : 1.349670  12  0.455423
052. Soldier Blade                                       : 1.347048  13  0.384197
053. Twin Cobra/Kyukyoku Tiger (ARC)                     : 1.249359  11  0.429007
054. Varth (ARC)                                         : 1.194988  11  0.377432
055. Muchi Muchi Pork!                                   : 1.176941  10  0.429051
056. Thunder Force IV                                    : 1.175731  09  0.496641
057. Raiden (ARC)                                        : 1.171113  11  0.354783
058. Sexy Parodius                                       : 1.158093  11  0.342433
059. ChoRenSha 68k (PC)                                  : 1.107972  11  0.294888
060. R-Type III: The Third Lightning (SNES)              : 1.086377  10  0.343143
061. Flying Shark/Hishouzame                             : 1.059707  09  0.386582
062. Raiden III                                          : 1.050933  09  0.378259
063. Deathsmiles Mega Black Label                        : 1.032518  09  0.360791
064. Axelay                                              : 1.029117  10  0.288826
065. Twinbee Yahho!                                      : 1.023516  09  0.352252
066. Galaga                                              : 0.971773  08  0.371907
067. M.U.S.H.A./Musha Aleste                             : 0.946905  09  0.279579
068. Touhou Eiyashou: Imperishable Night                 : 0.944465  08  0.346004
069. Raiden Fighters 2                                   : 0.937260  08  0.339168
070. Blazing Lazers/Gunhed                               : 0.936055  08  0.338025
071. Zanac (Nes)/Zanac EX                                : 0.933201  09  0.266580
072. Cyvern: The Dragon Weapons                          : 0.928709  07  0.399795
073. Pink Sweets                                         : 0.923408  08  0.326028
074. R-Type II                                           : 0.911444  08  0.314680
075. Giga Wing 2                                         : 0.904549  08  0.308139
076. Xexex                                               : 0.881605  08  0.286374
077. Last Resort                                         : 0.873163  08  0.278368
078. Dodonpachi Daifukkatsu 1.5                          : 0.855768  08  0.261866
079. Gradius II Gofer no Yabou (ARC/PCE-CD)              : 0.855630  07  0.330474
080. Perfect Cherry Blossom                              : 0.855059  07  0.329932
081. Shikigami no Shiro III/Castle of Shikigami III      : 0.851845  08  0.258144
082. Raiden II (PS1)                                     : 0.842401  07  0.317925
083. Sengoku Blade/Tengai                                : 0.830361  08  0.237765
084. Mahou Daisakusen                                    : 0.830147  08  0.237562
085. Ketsui Death Label (NDS)                            : 0.822219  08  0.230042
086. Strikers 1999/Strikers 1945 III                     : 0.817432  07  0.294240
087. Lords of Thunder                                    : 0.804350  08  0.213092
088. Kamui (PC)                                          : 0.799203  07  0.276948
089. Strikers 1945 (ARC)                                 : 0.788258  08  0.197826
090. Gokujou Parodius                                    : 0.787660  07  0.265998
091. Space Megaforce/Super Aleste                        : 0.781905  07  0.260538
092. Senko no Ronde/Senko no Ronde Rev.X (360)           : 0.781383  05  0.397521
093. Thunderforce II (MD)                                : 0.774502  07  0.253516
094. Psyvariar Revision                                  : 0.771761  07  0.250916
095. Salamander (ARC)/Life Force (non-JP ARC)            : 0.758707  07  0.238533
096. Pulstar (NG)                                        : 0.743996  07  0.224578
097. Out Zone                                            : 0.741733  06  0.291170
098. Metal Black (ARC)                                   : 0.734777  07  0.215834
099. Twinkle Star Sprites                                : 0.715561  06  0.266344
100. R-Type Final                                        : 0.703520  07  0.186183
101. Robotron 2084                                       : 0.691242  06  0.243275
102. Smash T.V./Super Smash T.V. (ARC/SNES)              : 0.687544  07  0.171028
103. Truxton/Tatsujin (MD/ARC)                           : 0.681317  06  0.233860
104. Zanac Neo                                           : 0.678232  06  0.230934
105. Shoot The Bullet                                    : 0.675978  06  0.228795
106. Parodius Da! (SAT)                                  : 0.663536  06  0.216993
107. Geometry Wars: Retro Evolved 2                      : 0.655784  06  0.209640
108. Hyper Duel (SAT)                                    : 0.649367  07  0.134814
109. Salamander 2                                        : 0.638522  06  0.193265
110. R-Type Leo (ARC)                                    : 0.624120  06  0.179604
111. Galaga 88 (ARC)                                     : 0.614054  05  0.238793
112. Gynoug/Wings Of Wor                                 : 0.606834  06  0.163206
113. Homura                                              : 0.599526  05  0.225012
114. Space Invaders Extreme 2                            : 0.594820  05  0.220548
115. Blue Wish Resurrection                              : 0.584280  05  0.210550
116. Gate of Thunder (PCE)                               : 0.583510  06  0.141081
117. Touhou Fuujinroku: Mountain of Faith                : 0.569839  04  0.265591
118. Fantasy Zone (ARC)                                  : 0.566689  05  0.193864
119. Gun.Smoke (NES)                                     : 0.565439  06  0.123939
120. DeathSmiles II/Deathsmiles IIX                      : 0.564374  05  0.191668
121. Image Fight (NES)                                   : 0.560570  05  0.188060
122. Fire Shark/Same! Same! Same! (MD)                   : 0.558314  05  0.185919
123. Hellsinker (PC)                                     : 0.552282  04  0.248936
124. Gradius III (SNES)                                  : 0.548351  05  0.176469
125. Samidare (PC)                                       : 0.531970  05  0.160930
126. 19XX: The War Against Destiny                       : 0.531941  05  0.160902
127. Geometry Wars: Retro Evolved                        : 0.528208  04  0.226100
128. Raiden Fighters                                     : 0.526057  05  0.155320
129. Eden's Aegis                                        : 0.522111  05  0.151577
130. Prehistoric Isle 2                                  : 0.497174  04  0.196661
131. Life Force (NES)                                    : 0.479153  05  0.110827
132. Blue Wish Resurrection Plus                         : 0.473899  04  0.174582
133. Sengoku Ace                                         : 0.471189  04  0.172012
134. Touhou Koumakyou: Embodiment of Scarlet Devil       : 0.467678  04  0.168681
135. Viewpoint (NG/ARC)                                  : 0.466080  04  0.167165
136. Gradius Rebirth                                     : 0.465234  04  0.166363
137. Kingdom Grandprix/Shippu Mahou Daisakusen           : 0.452010  04  0.153819
138. Ibara Kuro/Ibara Black Label                        : 0.445868  04  0.147993
139. Gunbird                                             : 0.441305  04  0.143664
140. Ether Vapor (PC)                                    : 0.436849  04  0.139437
141. Vasara 2                                            : 0.432469  04  0.135283
142. Harmful Park (PS1)                                  : 0.427743  04  0.130799
143. RayCrisis (PC/PS1)                                  : 0.426386  04  0.129512
144. Granada (GEN)                                       : 0.421864  03  0.193961
145. Raystorm (PS1)/Raystorm HD                          : 0.417549  04  0.121129
146. Cotton Boomerang                                    : 0.415786  04  0.119457
147. Elemental Master                                    : 0.412181  04  0.116038
148. Darius 2                                            : 0.409728  04  0.113710
149. U.N. Squadron (SNES)/Area 88 (SFC)                  : 0.401346  04  0.105760
150. Gradius IV                                          : 0.393572  03  0.167124
151. X-Multiply                                          : 0.388829  04  0.093885
152. Forgotten Worlds (GEN)                              : 0.386160  04  0.091354
153. RefleX (PC)                                         : 0.375922  03  0.150380
154. Gekirindan                                          : 0.374456  04  0.080252
155. Radirgy/Radilgy                                     : 0.373748  04  0.079580
156. Space Manbow                                        : 0.372081  03  0.146737
157. Air gallet                                          : 0.370220  03  0.144970
158. Every Extend Extra (PSP)                            : 0.359942  03  0.135223
159. Shikigami no Shiro                                  : 0.357376  03  0.132788
160. Apidya                                              : 0.357341  03  0.132755
161. Vasara                                              : 0.355571  04  0.062338
162. Judgement Silversword                               : 0.345039  03  0.121086
163. The Guardian Legend                                 : 0.340180  03  0.116477
164. Power Strike II (SMS)                               : 0.335304  03  0.111851
165. V-Five/V-V                                          : 0.331187  03  0.107947
166. Detana Twinbee                                      : 0.323967  03  0.101097
167. Ordyne (ARC)                                        : 0.321810  03  0.099050
168. Time Pilot                                          : 0.318108  03  0.095539
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277. Gradius Galaxies                                    : 0.117323  01  0.042553
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288. Darius Burst                                        : 0.110567  01  0.036145
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294. Hype                                                : 0.107520  01  0.033254
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296. Juno First                                          : 0.106470  01  0.032258
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314. Trigon                                              : 0.101657  01  0.027692
315. Finalizer                                           : 0.101505  01  0.027548
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318. Söldner-X: Himmelsstürmer                           : 0.100726  01  0.026810
320. Battle Mania Daiginjou (Sega Genesis)               : 0.098413  01  0.024615
321. Silpheed (Mega-CD)                                  : 0.097900  01  0.024129
322. Argus                                               : 0.097489  01  0.023739
323. Omega Five                                          : 0.096838  01  0.023121
324. Xed                                                 : 0.095890  01  0.022222
325. Geometry Wars Galaxies                              : 0.095532  01  0.021882
326. Blue Hawk                                           : 0.095170  01  0.021538
326. Cosmo Gang The Video                                : 0.095170  01  0.021538
326. Darius (ARC)                                        : 0.095170  01  0.021538
326. Final Soldier                                       : 0.095170  01  0.021538
326. Pheonix                                             : 0.095170  01  0.021538
331. XII Stag                                            : 0.095074  01  0.021448
332. Dragon Breed                                        : 0.094893  01  0.021277
332. Gallop                                              : 0.094893  01  0.021277
332. Tenmado                                             : 0.094893  01  0.021277
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335. Darius Force                                        : 0.093978  01  0.020408
335. Gun-Nac                                             : 0.093978  01  0.020408
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335. Pop'n Twinbee                                       : 0.093978  01  0.020408
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335. Tiger Heli (ARC)                                    : 0.093978  01  0.020408
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369. Battle Mania                                        : 0.085438  01  0.012308
369. Fighting Hawk                                       : 0.085438  01  0.012308
369. Mission Craft                                       : 0.085438  01  0.012308
373. Gaplus (ARC)                                        : 0.085281  01  0.012158
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376. Moral Minus                                         : 0.084722  01  0.011628
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394. Arcanacra Black label                               : 0.076383  01  0.003717
394. Parsec 47                                           : 0.076383  01  0.003717
394. Zillion Beatz                                       : 0.076383  01  0.003717
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399. Project X                                           : 0.075707  01  0.003077
404. GundeadliGn                                         : 0.075649  01  0.003021
405. PaperBoy                                            : 0.075368  01  0.002755
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Wow, looking at the top 30 makes the list even more impressive, as you get the likes of Dragon Blaze, Layer Section, Shiki 2 and Progear.

That was a huge amount of work, guys. Take pride-- it turned out well!
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xris wrote:Boo! to Shikigami not making the list.
If you mean Shiki II, I totally agree with you. Also, Gradius V and Gradius Gaiden should switch places, imo. Otherwise, it's a remarkably well-rounded list.
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professor ganson wrote:
nZero wrote:Honorable Mention > Top 25 (imho)
Interesting point. They're both good, but I might prefer the honorable mention list as well.
Especially true for those who arnt fans of Cave. Im happy to see Recca make the hon list but its a shame layer section dropped out of the top 25.

Hmmm ChoRenSha is only 10 places outside the hon list, I hope it makes the top 49 next year. Im guessing that would make it the first PC (non console) shmup to get on the list even if its only a honorable
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Your guess is close: if it comes to pass, it would be only the second year that a PC original was on either list. (Imperishable Night and Parsec47 were on the Honourable Mention list for the 3rd Annual Top 25 (2004).)
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Where's Viewpoint? I can't seem to see it anywhere.
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TrevHead (TVR) wrote:Especially true for those who arnt fans of Cave.
I still think the top 25 has better games in it. There's not a huge difference between 11 games and 5 games when the extra room is used for things like Blazing Star and Triggerheart Exelica. There is nothing that mediocre in the top 25.
119. Gun.Smoke (NES)
151. Forgotten Worlds (GEN)
I guess someone specified a console port and it just got stuck in? I meant the arcade version of FW and I'm sure everyone didn't mean NES Gun.Smoke (boring).
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boagman wrote:Where's Viewpoint? I can't seem to see it anywhere.
It seems I had an error in my alias table and Viewpoint got eaten. It is #135. Gradius Rebirth* and everything below it gets bumped down a slot.

nZero pointed out to me that even though I used Raiden II (PS1) as an example, Raiden II is also by itself on the list. Took care of that entry and had a game count mismatch. This suggests that I have a bigger problem to catch (i.e., a rarely occurring bug--always the most fun to find). I will update the full results (and the top post if need be) once that's checked and fixed. Unfortunately, my time tonight is booked solid. Hopefully will get it tomorrow.


*had originally written Gradius Gaiden. :\
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boagman wrote:Where's Viewpoint? I can't seem to see it anywhere.
hey Aron Boag... our fav game is number #1...hahahaha.
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397. Prehistoric Isle : 0.075707 01 0.003077

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Nothing's changed, people still argue everywhere about the list. Basically, these top lists are full of *beep* like always. Because they always make people argue between each other. Seriously the only thing that makes this list better is lack of icycalm. So by any means, these lists bring war and not more love to our genre. By the way, everyone lacks common sense. Also *beep* cave shmups (post-ketsui ones anyway).
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It seems somewhere in the vote counting process someone made a mistake. Gradius V is rater higher than Ikaruga. Should be relatively easy to figure out where the problem is or was.
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I like the top 25. I've spent lots of time with every game on it, except Ketsui. I wish Bakraid and Shiki 2 made the list, and that DDP took back it's rightful spot at #1, but overall it's great.
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I still don't get the frothing demand for Raiden Fighters...I have it, but I just sorta like it.

And Dangun is better than Guwange? Hrmmmm....


Well, i've seen worse.

I wonder what's given Garegga that extra push lately? It's great, but it's been number 1 for two years now. Interesting.
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Okay, not exactly a bug. The errors were committed by me in an external data file the program uses. When writing the program, I hadn't thought to include error checking and correction for that file. The program read in incorrect crap I wrote, assumed it was right, then proceeded to eat Viewpoint and Seirei Senshi Spriggan and play favorites with Fantasy Zone. The Raiden II vs Raiden II (PS1) error was actually my fault when I was prettying up the names in the output file: the former should have been Raiden III.

I have run the ballots through again and updated the full results above. Nothing in the Top 25 or Honorable Mention has changed position. The changes are as follows:
  • Fantasy Zone drops from #89 to #118. Strikers 1945, Mountain of Faith, and everything in between shifted up one place.
  • Viewpoint takes #135. Gradius Rebirth and everything below it moves down one position.
  • Seirei Senshi Spriggan takes #201. Patriot Dark and everything below it shifts down one.
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not as cave-dominated as youd think

go go garegga! we love you greg
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Incognoscente, following up on a point that I think Rob made:

at 119/121 gun.smoke and image fight shouldn't be labelled "NES". I doubt that anyone was voting for the NES versions of those games.
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Re: 8th Annual Top 25 Shmups of All Time! - Results

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Your doubt is misplaced. EricDaNerd voted for the NES version of Gun.Smoke and shadowbringer voted for the NES version of Image Fight. No other votes for either game specified platform at all. I do not reward laziness. My time is too valuable for that.
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Re: 8th Annual Top 25 Shmups of All Time! - Results

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People who prefer scaled down ports should specify that they have bad taste. Everyone else plays the arcade versions.
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Re: 8th Annual Top 25 Shmups of All Time! - Results

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Rob wrote:People who prefer scaled down ports should specify that they have bad taste. Everyone else plays the arcade versions.
Its probably the nostalga factor
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Re: 8th Annual Top 25 Shmups of All Time! - Results

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I've never played the original Image Fight, and found the NES version fun (back when I still had a NES). More fun than B-Wings, imho (which was fun back then, too)
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