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incognoscente
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by incognoscente » Wed Jul 14, 2010 5:55 am
Top 25 Shmups of All Time (through 2009)
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Game Score '02 '03 '04 '05 '06 '07 '08
01 Battle Garegga (SAT/ARC) 6.64 + + * + + + .
02 Dodonpachi (ARC/SAT/PS1) 6.20 - - - - - + .
03 Ketsui kizuna jigoku tachi (ARC) 5.57 * * * * * * +
04 Armed Police Batrider (ARC) 5.23 * * + * . + +
05 Gradius V (PS2) 5.11 * * - - - - +
06 Ikaruga (DC/AC/360) 4.94 - - - - - - +
07 Raiden Fighters Jet (ARC/360) 4.72 * * * * * * +
08 R-Type (ARC/SMS/PS1/et al) 4.59 + - + - * + +
09 Mushihimesama Futari 1.5 (ARC/360) 4.40 * * * * * * +
10 Mars Matrix (ARC/DC) 4.18 + + + - + + +
11 Espgaluda II (ARC) 4.12 * * * * * * *
12 Espgaluda (PS2/ARC) 3.90 * * + - - - -
13 Dodonpachi daioujou (PS2/ARC) 3.71 * + . . - - -
14 Radiant Silvergun (SAT/ARC) 3.48 - - - - - - -
15 Dangun Feveron (ARC) 3.27 * * * * * * +
16 Guwange (ARC) 3.06 - - * - * - -
17 Gradius Gaiden (PS1) 3.05 + + - - - - *
18 Gunbird 2 (ARC/DC) 3.04 + - - + - * *
19 Soukyugurentai/Terra Diver (SAT/PS1/ARC) 2.99 + - - - + . *
20 Strikers 1945 II (ARC/PS1/SAT/PS2) 2.93 - - - - * + .
21 Mushihimesama (ARC/PS2) 2.86 * * * - - - -
22 Ibara (ARC/PS2) 2.82 * * * * * + -
23 Batsugun/Batsugun Special Ver. (ARC/SAT) 2.82 * - - * - - -
24 Mushihimesama Futari Black Label (ARC/360) 2.77 * * * * * * *
25 Giga Wing (ARC/DC) 2.76 * - - - - - -
. denotes the game holds the same position now as the year indicated.
+ denotes the game holds an improved standing compared to the year indicated.
- denotes the game holds a reduced standing compared to the year indicated.
* denotes the game was not on the list for the year indicated.
Honourable Mention
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Game '02 '03 '04 '05 '06 '07 '08
Battle Bakraid (ARC) + . . . . . .
Blazing Star (ARC) . + . . . . .
Border Down (DC/ARC) + + . - - - -
Darius Gaiden (SAT/ARC/PS2/PS1) + + . . . . .
Deathsmiles (ARC/360) + + + + + + .
Dodonpachi Daioujou Black Label/Extra (ARC/360) + + + + + + +
Donpachi (ARC/PS1/SAT) - - - . . . .
Dragon Blaze (ARC/PS2) + + . . . . .
Einhänder (PS1) . . - - - . .
ESP ra.de. (ARC) - - - - - - -
G-Darius (PS2/PC/PS1/ARC) + . . . . . .
Gradius (ARC/NES/SAT/PS1/et al) . . . + + + +
Progear no Arashi (ARC) + + + . . - -
Psyvariar 2: The Will to Fabricate (PS2/DC/ARC/Xbox) + + + + + + .
R-Type Delta (PS1) . . - - - . +
Raiden DX (PS1/ARC) + + - - - . -
Raiden IV (ARC/360) + + + + + + +
Rayforce/Layer Section/Gunlock (SAT/ARC) + - - - - - -
Shikigami no Shiro II (ARC/GC/DC/PS2/Xbox/PC) + + - - - - .
Summer Carnival '92: Recca (FC) + + . + + + +
Thunderforce III (MD/GEN/SAT) - - - - - - .
Triggerheart Exelica (PS2/ARC/DC/360) + + + + + + +
Under Defeat (DC/ARC) + + + + - . .
Zero Gunner 2 (DC/ARC) + - . . + + .
. denotes the game was also on the HM list for the year indicated.
+ denotes the game was on neither the HM list nor the top 25 for the year indicated.
- denotes the game was in the top 25 for the year indicated.
What Dropped from 2008's Top 25:
Border Down (ARC/DC)
ESP ra.de. (ARC)
Progear no Arashi (ARC)
Raiden DX (ARC/PS1)
Rayforce / Layer Section / Gunlock (ARC/SAT)
What Dropped from 2008's Honourable Mentions:
Kyukyoku Tiger/Twin Cobra (ARC/PS1/et al)
Strikers 1945 (ARC/SAT/PS1/PS2)
Thunderforce IV (MD/GEN/SAT)
Breakdown by Developer
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Top 25 Hon.M. Overall
Cave 11 5 16
Raizing 3 1 4
Psikyo 2 2 4
Treasure 3 - 3
Seibu Kaihatsu 1 2 3
Taito - 3 3
Takumi 2 - 2
Irem 1 1 2
Konami 1 1 2
G.Rev - 2 2
Toaplan 1 - 1
Alfa System - 1 1
KID Corp. - 1 1
Skonec - 1 1
Square - 1 1
Tecnosoft - 1 1
Warashi - 1 1
Yumekobo - 1 1
Breakdown by Original Platform
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System Top 25 Hon.M. Overall
Arcade 23 20 43
PlayStation 1 2 3
PlayStation 2 1 - 1
Famicom - 1 1
Sega Genesis - 1 1
Miscellaneous Stats: Number of Actual Voters: 92 (no scaled voters this year)
Number of Games Receiving Votes: 405
Games Supported by at least half of voters: 2
Games Supported by at least 1/4 of voters: 29
Number of Honourable Mentions: 24
Top 25 Score Spread: 2.765 - 6.647
Honourable Mention Score Spread: 1.383 - 2.669
Total Score Spread: 0.0753 - 6.647
Random Comments:
Gradius Gaiden and Soukyugurentai are back in the Top 25 after a year off. Gradius and Recca return to the Honourable Mention list after a 4-year hiatus.
Not a good year for Mushihimesama, Giga Wing , or Radiant Silvergun : each is at its lowest since joining the list. We have officers attempting to talk them down as we speak.
Dodonpachi daioujou returned to the 13th spot for its third nonconsecutive year. When asked for comment, it replied, "feels good, man."
Mushihimesama Futari appears twice in the Top 25, but doing so displaced ESP ra.de. for the first time in, well, ever .
Now only 4 games have been in every Top 25 so far: Dodonpachi, Ikaruga, Mars Matrix , and Radiant Silvergun .
This year features an expanded Honourable Mention list. Is good: the extra slots can be taken up with Black Label versions of every game until the Prince rolls them back up again.
The entire list will be posted later. Now available!
The discussion thread for this year's poll is here .
The votes for this year's poll can be found here .
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incognoscente on Sat Aug 14, 2010 6:02 pm, edited 2 times in total.
Reason: fixed games count
DJ Incompetent
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by DJ Incompetent » Wed Jul 14, 2010 5:06 pm
I am pleased.
Thanks for running the vote.
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by emphatic » Wed Jul 14, 2010 7:58 pm
Thanks a lot!
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by nZero » Wed Jul 14, 2010 10:09 pm
Honorable Mention > Top 25 (imho)
Big props to incognoscente, Herr Schatten, and bloodflowers for making it all possible this year
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by professor ganson » Thu Jul 15, 2010 1:31 am
nZero wrote: Honorable Mention > Top 25 (imho)
Interesting point. They're both good, but I might prefer the honorable mention list as well.
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by BulletMagnet » Thu Jul 15, 2010 2:18 am
Many, many thanks to this year's organizers: it almost didn't happen, but you guys pulled it out of the fire. Kudos!
That said, my dream of Vasara and Cotton making their long-overdue appearances will have to wait 'til next year...
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by xris » Thu Jul 15, 2010 2:24 am
Awesome! A well rounded list all around. Too bad the Darius vote was split. Boo! to Shikigami not making the list. Espgaluda2 jumped on it w/ a high placing! Can't wait to see the full list.
THANKS!
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by Plasmo » Thu Jul 15, 2010 6:55 am
Nice list! I'm very pleased to see Garegga still where it belongs to.
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by Octopod » Thu Jul 15, 2010 8:52 am
Galaga is better than all of those games.
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by incognoscente » Thu Jul 15, 2010 3:43 pm
Title and platform information are listed in descending order according to percentage of the merged vote. Votes for unspecified platforms are not marked in any special way, so you may see listings (like Mars Matrix (ARC) ) which contain votes not explicitly for the platform(s) listed. Additionally some regional names are missing because no one voted for the game by the alternate title (e.g., Battle Mania would merge with Trouble Shooter ... if anyone voted for the latter).
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Top 25:
001. Battle Garegga (SAT) : 6.647923 52 2.731759
002. Dodonpachi : 6.209512 51 2.384624
003. Ketsui kizuna jigoku tachi (ARC) : 5.579710 31 3.161967
004. Armed Police Batrider (ARC) : 5.235754 38 2.354526
005. Gradius V (PS2) : 5.115052 43 1.896337
006. Ikaruga (DC) : 4.944012 39 2.009044
007. Raiden Fighters Jet : 4.723146 40 1.730794
008. R-Type (SMS/ARC/PS1) : 4.597496 35 1.955296
009. Mushihimesama Futari 1.5 : 4.400855 34 1.837502
010. Mars Matrix (ARC) : 4.183270 35 1.562366
011. Espgaluda II : 4.124319 34 1.575183
012. Espgaluda (PS2) : 3.907644 33 1.438387
013. Dodonpachi daioujou (PS2) : 3.714585 31 1.392727
014. Radiant Silvergun (SAT) : 3.488252 26 1.521723
015. Dangun Feveron : 3.277091 30 1.046464
016. Guwange : 3.069416 27 1.055681
017. Gradius Gaiden (PS1) : 3.058223 26 1.113802
018. Gunbird 2 : 3.047381 28 0.966041
019. Soukyugurentai/Terra Diver (SAT/PS1) : 2.996925 27 0.986917
020. Strikers 1945 II : 2.935215 27 0.928380
021. Mushihimesama : 2.869657 24 1.072407
022. Ibara : 2.826641 23 1.100341
023. Batsugun/Batsugun Special Ver. : 2.821614 24 1.026834
024. Mushihimesama Futari Black Label (360) : 2.770555 19 1.322091
025. Giga Wing : 2.765855 26 0.836464
Honorable Mention:
026. ESP ra.de. : 2.669144 24 0.882202
027. Rayforce/Layer Section (SAT) : 2.664942 22 1.015694
028. Progear no Arashi : 2.621026 24 0.836557
029. Shikigami no Shiro II : 2.535736 23 0.824391
030. Dragon Blaze (ARC) : 2.522442 23 0.811780
031. Deathsmiles : 2.478755 19 1.045294
032. Darius Gaiden (SAT) : 2.458315 24 0.682212
033. Raiden DX (PS1) : 2.419084 17 1.126167
034. Border Down (DC) : 2.353343 20 0.857590
035. Einhänder (PS1) : 2.156098 20 0.670485
036. Battle Bakraid : 2.123771 19 0.708560
037. Zero Gunner 2 (DC) : 2.121433 20 0.637603
038. G-Darius (PS2/PC/PS1) : 2.016190 18 0.675247
039. R-Type Delta (PS1) : 1.928050 17 0.660376
040. Summer Carnival '92: Recca : 1.844414 17 0.581041
041. Under Defeat (DC) : 1.815254 17 0.553379
042. Donpachi : 1.766232 16 0.575616
043. Psyvariar 2: The Will to Fabricate (PS2) : 1.754732 15 0.633446
044. Thunderforce III : 1.700661 15 0.582154
045. Triggerheart Exelica (PS2) : 1.601403 15 0.488000
046. Raiden IV : 1.454896 13 0.486501
047. Blazing Star : 1.449914 14 0.413036
048. Gradius (ARC/NES) : 1.408401 13 0.442396
049. Dodonpachi Daioujou Black Label/Extra : 1.383368 10 0.624866
The Rest:
050. Dimahoo/Great Mahou Daisakusen : 1.355158 13 0.391890
051. Thunder Force V (SAT/PS1) : 1.349670 12 0.455423
052. Soldier Blade : 1.347048 13 0.384197
053. Twin Cobra/Kyukyoku Tiger (ARC) : 1.249359 11 0.429007
054. Varth (ARC) : 1.194988 11 0.377432
055. Muchi Muchi Pork! : 1.176941 10 0.429051
056. Thunder Force IV : 1.175731 09 0.496641
057. Raiden (ARC) : 1.171113 11 0.354783
058. Sexy Parodius : 1.158093 11 0.342433
059. ChoRenSha 68k (PC) : 1.107972 11 0.294888
060. R-Type III: The Third Lightning (SNES) : 1.086377 10 0.343143
061. Flying Shark/Hishouzame : 1.059707 09 0.386582
062. Raiden III : 1.050933 09 0.378259
063. Deathsmiles Mega Black Label : 1.032518 09 0.360791
064. Axelay : 1.029117 10 0.288826
065. Twinbee Yahho! : 1.023516 09 0.352252
066. Galaga : 0.971773 08 0.371907
067. M.U.S.H.A./Musha Aleste : 0.946905 09 0.279579
068. Touhou Eiyashou: Imperishable Night : 0.944465 08 0.346004
069. Raiden Fighters 2 : 0.937260 08 0.339168
070. Blazing Lazers/Gunhed : 0.936055 08 0.338025
071. Zanac (Nes)/Zanac EX : 0.933201 09 0.266580
072. Cyvern: The Dragon Weapons : 0.928709 07 0.399795
073. Pink Sweets : 0.923408 08 0.326028
074. R-Type II : 0.911444 08 0.314680
075. Giga Wing 2 : 0.904549 08 0.308139
076. Xexex : 0.881605 08 0.286374
077. Last Resort : 0.873163 08 0.278368
078. Dodonpachi Daifukkatsu 1.5 : 0.855768 08 0.261866
079. Gradius II Gofer no Yabou (ARC/PCE-CD) : 0.855630 07 0.330474
080. Perfect Cherry Blossom : 0.855059 07 0.329932
081. Shikigami no Shiro III/Castle of Shikigami III : 0.851845 08 0.258144
082. Raiden II (PS1) : 0.842401 07 0.317925
083. Sengoku Blade/Tengai : 0.830361 08 0.237765
084. Mahou Daisakusen : 0.830147 08 0.237562
085. Ketsui Death Label (NDS) : 0.822219 08 0.230042
086. Strikers 1999/Strikers 1945 III : 0.817432 07 0.294240
087. Lords of Thunder : 0.804350 08 0.213092
088. Kamui (PC) : 0.799203 07 0.276948
089. Strikers 1945 (ARC) : 0.788258 08 0.197826
090. Gokujou Parodius : 0.787660 07 0.265998
091. Space Megaforce/Super Aleste : 0.781905 07 0.260538
092. Senko no Ronde/Senko no Ronde Rev.X (360) : 0.781383 05 0.397521
093. Thunderforce II (MD) : 0.774502 07 0.253516
094. Psyvariar Revision : 0.771761 07 0.250916
095. Salamander (ARC)/Life Force (non-JP ARC) : 0.758707 07 0.238533
096. Pulstar (NG) : 0.743996 07 0.224578
097. Out Zone : 0.741733 06 0.291170
098. Metal Black (ARC) : 0.734777 07 0.215834
099. Twinkle Star Sprites : 0.715561 06 0.266344
100. R-Type Final : 0.703520 07 0.186183
101. Robotron 2084 : 0.691242 06 0.243275
102. Smash T.V./Super Smash T.V. (ARC/SNES) : 0.687544 07 0.171028
103. Truxton/Tatsujin (MD/ARC) : 0.681317 06 0.233860
104. Zanac Neo : 0.678232 06 0.230934
105. Shoot The Bullet : 0.675978 06 0.228795
106. Parodius Da! (SAT) : 0.663536 06 0.216993
107. Geometry Wars: Retro Evolved 2 : 0.655784 06 0.209640
108. Hyper Duel (SAT) : 0.649367 07 0.134814
109. Salamander 2 : 0.638522 06 0.193265
110. R-Type Leo (ARC) : 0.624120 06 0.179604
111. Galaga 88 (ARC) : 0.614054 05 0.238793
112. Gynoug/Wings Of Wor : 0.606834 06 0.163206
113. Homura : 0.599526 05 0.225012
114. Space Invaders Extreme 2 : 0.594820 05 0.220548
115. Blue Wish Resurrection : 0.584280 05 0.210550
116. Gate of Thunder (PCE) : 0.583510 06 0.141081
117. Touhou Fuujinroku: Mountain of Faith : 0.569839 04 0.265591
118. Fantasy Zone (ARC) : 0.566689 05 0.193864
119. Gun.Smoke (NES) : 0.565439 06 0.123939
120. DeathSmiles II/Deathsmiles IIX : 0.564374 05 0.191668
121. Image Fight (NES) : 0.560570 05 0.188060
122. Fire Shark/Same! Same! Same! (MD) : 0.558314 05 0.185919
123. Hellsinker (PC) : 0.552282 04 0.248936
124. Gradius III (SNES) : 0.548351 05 0.176469
125. Samidare (PC) : 0.531970 05 0.160930
126. 19XX: The War Against Destiny : 0.531941 05 0.160902
127. Geometry Wars: Retro Evolved : 0.528208 04 0.226100
128. Raiden Fighters : 0.526057 05 0.155320
129. Eden's Aegis : 0.522111 05 0.151577
130. Prehistoric Isle 2 : 0.497174 04 0.196661
131. Life Force (NES) : 0.479153 05 0.110827
132. Blue Wish Resurrection Plus : 0.473899 04 0.174582
133. Sengoku Ace : 0.471189 04 0.172012
134. Touhou Koumakyou: Embodiment of Scarlet Devil : 0.467678 04 0.168681
135. Viewpoint (NG/ARC) : 0.466080 04 0.167165
136. Gradius Rebirth : 0.465234 04 0.166363
137. Kingdom Grandprix/Shippu Mahou Daisakusen : 0.452010 04 0.153819
138. Ibara Kuro/Ibara Black Label : 0.445868 04 0.147993
139. Gunbird : 0.441305 04 0.143664
140. Ether Vapor (PC) : 0.436849 04 0.139437
141. Vasara 2 : 0.432469 04 0.135283
142. Harmful Park (PS1) : 0.427743 04 0.130799
143. RayCrisis (PC/PS1) : 0.426386 04 0.129512
144. Granada (GEN) : 0.421864 03 0.193961
145. Raystorm (PS1)/Raystorm HD : 0.417549 04 0.121129
146. Cotton Boomerang : 0.415786 04 0.119457
147. Elemental Master : 0.412181 04 0.116038
148. Darius 2 : 0.409728 04 0.113710
149. U.N. Squadron (SNES)/Area 88 (SFC) : 0.401346 04 0.105760
150. Gradius IV : 0.393572 03 0.167124
151. X-Multiply : 0.388829 04 0.093885
152. Forgotten Worlds (GEN) : 0.386160 04 0.091354
153. RefleX (PC) : 0.375922 03 0.150380
154. Gekirindan : 0.374456 04 0.080252
155. Radirgy/Radilgy : 0.373748 04 0.079580
156. Space Manbow : 0.372081 03 0.146737
157. Air gallet : 0.370220 03 0.144970
158. Every Extend Extra (PSP) : 0.359942 03 0.135223
159. Shikigami no Shiro : 0.357376 03 0.132788
160. Apidya : 0.357341 03 0.132755
161. Vasara : 0.355571 04 0.062338
162. Judgement Silversword : 0.345039 03 0.121086
163. The Guardian Legend : 0.340180 03 0.116477
164. Power Strike II (SMS) : 0.335304 03 0.111851
165. V-Five/V-V : 0.331187 03 0.107947
166. Detana Twinbee : 0.323967 03 0.101097
167. Ordyne (ARC) : 0.321810 03 0.099050
168. Time Pilot : 0.318108 03 0.095539
169. 1943 (ARC) : 0.317491 03 0.094953
170. Bio-Metal : 0.316692 03 0.094196
171. Gradius III (ARC) : 0.313714 03 0.091370
172. Omega Fighter/Omega Fighter Special : 0.310027 03 0.087873
173. In the hunt : 0.309875 03 0.087729
174. Gaiares : 0.307772 03 0.085735
175. Trizeal (DC) : 0.307393 03 0.085375
176. Dogyuun : 0.299773 03 0.078146
177. Defender : 0.298297 02 0.145485
178. Xevious : 0.297837 03 0.076310
179. Shock Troopers : 0.296461 03 0.075005
180. Thunder Force AC : 0.293876 03 0.072553
181. Stargate (ARC) : 0.292037 03 0.070809
182. Strikers 1945 Plus : 0.291996 03 0.070769
183. Thunder Force VI : 0.291854 03 0.070635
184. Space Giraffe : 0.291228 03 0.070040
185. Warning Forever : 0.287932 03 0.066915
186. Diadra Empty (PC) : 0.277143 02 0.125418
187. Senko no Ronde DUO : 0.274255 02 0.122679
188. Mushihimesama Futari 1.01 : 0.272203 02 0.120732
189. Flame Zapper Kotsujin : 0.271603 02 0.120163
190. Boogie Wings : 0.261396 02 0.110481
191. Exed Exes : 0.256607 02 0.105938
192. Vulgus : 0.251537 02 0.101129
193. Do-Donpachi Dai-Fukkatsu Black Label : 0.247339 02 0.097147
194. Twin Hawk (ARC) : 0.239697 02 0.089897
195. Robo Aleste : 0.239220 02 0.089445
196. Dragon Spirit : 0.236941 02 0.087283
197. Spy Hunter (ARC) : 0.234326 02 0.084802
198. Nexzr : 0.233580 02 0.084095
199. Viper Phase 1 New Version/Viper Phase 1 : 0.232930 02 0.083478
200. Zed Blade (NG) : 0.231994 02 0.082591
201. Seirei Senshi Spriggan : 0.231076 02 0.081719
202. Patriot Dark : 0.229314 02 0.080048
203. Beamrider : 0.226897 02 0.077755
204. Uridium 2 : 0.223734 02 0.074755
205. GigaWing Generations : 0.221584 02 0.072716
206. Hellfire : 0.220282 02 0.071480
207. Super Fantasy Zone : 0.219532 02 0.070769
208. Truxton II/Tatsujin Oh : 0.217519 02 0.068860
209. terra cresta : 0.217037 02 0.068403
210. Titanion : 0.215457 02 0.066904
211. Space Invaders '95/Akkanbeedaa (ARC) : 0.215097 02 0.066562
212. Mystic Square : 0.212945 02 0.064521
213. Undefined Fantastic Object : 0.212106 02 0.063725
214. XOP black : 0.211681 02 0.063321
215. Sonic Wings Special : 0.211610 02 0.063254
216. Bangai-O : 0.211301 02 0.062961
217. Karous : 0.210956 02 0.062634
218. Zero Wing (MD) : 0.210349 02 0.062058
219. Slap Fight MD : 0.209801 02 0.061538
220. Gyruss (ARC) : 0.208822 02 0.060610
221. Three Wonders: Chariot (ARC) : 0.207871 02 0.059708
222. Guxt : 0.205929 02 0.057865
223. Brave Blade (ARC) : 0.200070 02 0.052308
224. Millipede : 0.198955 02 0.051250
225. Choujikuu Yousai Macross: Scrambled Valkyrie : 0.197447 02 0.049820
225. Magical Chase (TG16) : 0.197447 02 0.049820
227. Kyuukyoku Tiger II/Twin Cobra II : 0.196238 02 0.048673
228. Sonic Wings/Aero Fighters : 0.193583 02 0.046154
229. nomltest : 0.190487 02 0.043217
230. Alpha-Mission II : 0.190339 02 0.043077
231. Gundemonium Recollection : 0.189296 02 0.042088
232. Iwanaga : 0.187763 02 0.040633
233. Lotus Land Story : 0.187095 02 0.040000
234. Noiz2sa : 0.184782 02 0.037806
235. Otomedius : 0.183576 02 0.036661
236. Gleylancer : 0.182660 02 0.035793
237. Super Stardust HD : 0.179698 02 0.032983
238. Daioh : 0.177469 02 0.030870
239. Exzisus : 0.177364 02 0.030769
240. Zen-Ichi : 0.175561 02 0.029059
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242. Wyvern Wings : 0.173574 02 0.027173
243. Everyday Shooter : 0.172929 02 0.026562
243. Power Strike/Aleste : 0.172929 02 0.026562
245. Gun Frontier : 0.170877 02 0.024615
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247. Chaos Field : 0.164390 02 0.018462
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263. Sqoon : 0.130133 01 0.054705
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270. Rapid Hero : 0.121119 01 0.046154
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274. Banshiryuu : 0.119317 01 0.044444
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277. Gradius Galaxies : 0.117323 01 0.042553
279. Super R-Type : 0.116292 01 0.041575
280. Espgaluda II iPhone : 0.115119 01 0.040462
281. Captain Tomaday : 0.114632 01 0.040000
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283. Star Monkey : 0.113324 01 0.038760
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285. King And Balloon : 0.113121 01 0.038567
286. Kiki Kaikai : 0.111653 01 0.037175
287. Bari Arm : 0.111388 01 0.036923
288. Darius Burst : 0.110567 01 0.036145
289. 1944: The Loop Master : 0.108144 01 0.033846
289. Silpheed: The Lost Planet : 0.108144 01 0.033846
289. Xevious 3D : 0.108144 01 0.033846
289. Yakouga 4 : 0.108144 01 0.033846
293. rRootage : 0.107604 01 0.033333
294. Hype : 0.107520 01 0.033254
295. Gashell Blood Red Skies : 0.107065 01 0.032823
296. Juno First : 0.106470 01 0.032258
297. Katakis (C64) : 0.106198 01 0.032000
297. Return of the Invaders : 0.106198 01 0.032000
299. 1941 : 0.105407 01 0.031250
299. Jikkyo Oshaberi Parodius : 0.105407 01 0.031250
299. Nemesis 3 : 0.105407 01 0.031250
299. Steel Saviour : 0.105407 01 0.031250
299. The Reap : 0.105407 01 0.031250
299. Thunder Cross II : 0.105407 01 0.031250
305. Guerilla War (ARC) : 0.104409 01 0.030303
305. S.C.A.T/Cybernetic Attack Team : 0.104409 01 0.030303
307. Yalkina STG : 0.104217 01 0.030120
308. Andro Dunos : 0.103932 01 0.029851
308. Burai Fighter : 0.103932 01 0.029851
308. Section Z (ARC) : 0.103932 01 0.029851
308. Side Arms : 0.103932 01 0.029851
312. Cotton: Fantastic Night Dreams (ARC) : 0.103470 01 0.029412
313. Mamorokun wa norowarette shimatta! : 0.102932 01 0.028902
314. Trigon : 0.101657 01 0.027692
315. Finalizer : 0.101505 01 0.027548
316. Wizard of Wor (ARC) : 0.101302 01 0.027356
317. eXceed 2nd Vampire Rex : 0.101066 01 0.027132
318. Eliminate Down : 0.100726 01 0.026810
318. Söldner-X: Himmelsstürmer : 0.100726 01 0.026810
320. Battle Mania Daiginjou (Sega Genesis) : 0.098413 01 0.024615
321. Silpheed (Mega-CD) : 0.097900 01 0.024129
322. Argus : 0.097489 01 0.023739
323. Omega Five : 0.096838 01 0.023121
324. Xed : 0.095890 01 0.022222
325. Geometry Wars Galaxies : 0.095532 01 0.021882
326. Blue Hawk : 0.095170 01 0.021538
326. Cosmo Gang The Video : 0.095170 01 0.021538
326. Darius (ARC) : 0.095170 01 0.021538
326. Final Soldier : 0.095170 01 0.021538
326. Pheonix : 0.095170 01 0.021538
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332. Dragon Breed : 0.094893 01 0.021277
332. Gallop : 0.094893 01 0.021277
332. Tenmado : 0.094893 01 0.021277
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335. Darius Force : 0.093978 01 0.020408
335. Gun-Nac : 0.093978 01 0.020408
335. Keio Flying Squadron : 0.093978 01 0.020408
335. Nebulasray (ARC) : 0.093978 01 0.020408
335. Pop'n Twinbee : 0.093978 01 0.020408
335. Scramble (PS2) : 0.093978 01 0.020408
335. Spectra Smash (48k) : 0.093978 01 0.020408
335. Star Parodier (PCE) : 0.093978 01 0.020408
335. The Game Paradise (SAT) : 0.093978 01 0.020408
335. Tiger Heli (ARC) : 0.093978 01 0.020408
346. Alternative Sphere (PC) : 0.093601 01 0.020050
347. Morning Star Girls : 0.092894 01 0.019380
347. Prototype 2 : 0.092894 01 0.019380
349. ThunderCade/Twin Formation : 0.092793 01 0.019284
350. 1942 : 0.092681 01 0.019178
351. Choplifter (SMS) : 0.092248 01 0.018767
352. Exceed 3rd Jade Penetrate: Black Package : 0.092058 01 0.018587
353. Aero Star (Game Boy) : 0.091926 01 0.018462
353. Air Buster : 0.091926 01 0.018462
353. Cloudophobia : 0.091926 01 0.018462
353. Space Bomber : 0.091926 01 0.018462
357. XX Mission : 0.091233 01 0.017804
358. Xevious Arrangement : 0.088936 01 0.015625
359. Cotton 2 : 0.088682 01 0.015385
360. Flak Attack/MX5000 : 0.088436 01 0.015152
360. Rush & Crash/The Speed Rumbler : 0.088436 01 0.015152
360. Sky Kid Deluxe : 0.088436 01 0.015152
360. Time Pilot '84 : 0.088436 01 0.015152
364. Crisis Force : 0.088198 01 0.014925
364. Final Mission : 0.088198 01 0.014925
364. Over Horizon : 0.088198 01 0.014925
367. Heavy Unit : 0.088105 01 0.014837
368. Star Soldier Vanishing Earth : 0.086155 01 0.012987
369. Asteroids Deluxe (ARC) : 0.085438 01 0.012308
369. Battle Mania : 0.085438 01 0.012308
369. Fighting Hawk : 0.085438 01 0.012308
369. Mission Craft : 0.085438 01 0.012308
373. Gaplus (ARC) : 0.085281 01 0.012158
373. Total Carnage (ARC) : 0.085281 01 0.012158
375. Twin Bee : 0.084984 01 0.011876
376. Moral Minus : 0.084722 01 0.011628
377. Battle Squadron : 0.084443 01 0.011364
378. Aero Fighters 2 : 0.082195 01 0.009231
378. Carrier Air Wing (ARC) : 0.082195 01 0.009231
378. Last Duel : 0.082195 01 0.009231
378. Twin Eagle II : 0.082195 01 0.009231
382. Alzadick : 0.078951 01 0.006154
382. Choplifter II (Game Boy) : 0.078951 01 0.006154
382. Shmups skills test : 0.078951 01 0.006154
382. Terra Force : 0.078951 01 0.006154
382. Vanguard VCS : 0.078951 01 0.006154
387. Rip Off (ARC) : 0.078872 01 0.006079
388. Commando : 0.076912 01 0.004219
388. Mercs : 0.076912 01 0.004219
388. Missile Command : 0.076912 01 0.004219
391. Exception : 0.076875 01 0.004184
391. Trouble Witches : 0.076875 01 0.004184
393. Guardian (PC) : 0.076550 01 0.003876
394. Arcanacra Black label : 0.076383 01 0.003717
394. Parsec 47 : 0.076383 01 0.003717
394. Zillion Beatz : 0.076383 01 0.003717
397. Nostradamus : 0.076074 01 0.003425
398. Plus Alpha : 0.075943 01 0.003300
399. Dangerous Seed (MD) : 0.075707 01 0.003077
399. Galaga Legions : 0.075707 01 0.003077
399. Ikari Warriors : 0.075707 01 0.003077
399. Prehistoric Isle : 0.075707 01 0.003077
399. Project X : 0.075707 01 0.003077
404. GundeadliGn : 0.075649 01 0.003021
405. PaperBoy : 0.075368 01 0.002755
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by professor ganson » Thu Jul 15, 2010 4:11 pm
Wow, looking at the top 30 makes the list even more impressive, as you get the likes of Dragon Blaze, Layer Section, Shiki 2 and Progear.
That was a huge amount of work, guys. Take pride-- it turned out well!
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by Herr Schatten » Thu Jul 15, 2010 4:12 pm
xris wrote: Boo! to Shikigami not making the list.
If you mean Shiki II, I totally agree with you. Also, Gradius V and Gradius Gaiden should switch places, imo. Otherwise, it's a remarkably well-rounded list.
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by TrevHead (TVR) » Thu Jul 15, 2010 6:59 pm
professor ganson wrote: nZero wrote: Honorable Mention > Top 25 (imho)
Interesting point. They're both good, but I might prefer the honorable mention list as well.
Especially true for those who arnt fans of Cave. Im happy to see Recca make the hon list but its a shame layer section dropped out of the top 25.
Hmmm ChoRenSha is only 10 places outside the hon list, I hope it makes the top 49 next year. Im guessing that would make it the first PC (non console) shmup to get on the list even if its only a honorable
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by incognoscente » Thu Jul 15, 2010 7:13 pm
Your guess is close: if it comes to pass, it would be only the second year that a PC original was on either list. (
Imperishable Night and
Parsec47 were on the Honourable Mention list for the
3rd Annual Top 25 (2004).)
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by boagman » Thu Jul 15, 2010 7:38 pm
Where's Viewpoint? I can't seem to see it anywhere.
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by Rob » Thu Jul 15, 2010 7:41 pm
TrevHead (TVR) wrote: Especially true for those who arnt fans of Cave.
I still think the top 25 has better games in it. There's not a huge difference between 11 games and 5 games when the extra room is used for things like Blazing Star and
Triggerheart Exelica . There is nothing that mediocre in the top 25.
119. Gun.Smoke (NES)
151. Forgotten Worlds (GEN)
I guess someone specified a console port and it just got stuck in? I meant the arcade version of FW and I'm sure everyone didn't mean NES Gun.Smoke (boring).
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by incognoscente » Thu Jul 15, 2010 9:47 pm
boagman wrote: Where's Viewpoint? I can't seem to see it anywhere.
It seems I had an error in my alias table and
Viewpoint got eaten. It is #135.
Gradius Rebirth * and everything below it gets bumped down a slot.
nZero pointed out to me that even though I used
Raiden II (PS1) as an example,
Raiden II is also by itself on the list. Took care of that entry and had a game count mismatch. This suggests that I have a bigger problem to catch (i.e., a rarely occurring bug--always the most fun to find). I will update the full results (and the top post if need be) once that's checked and fixed. Unfortunately, my time tonight is booked solid. Hopefully will get it tomorrow.
*had originally written Gradius Gaiden . :\
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by ROBOTRON » Thu Jul 15, 2010 11:38 pm
boagman wrote: Where's Viewpoint? I can't seem to see it anywhere.
hey Aron Boag... our fav game is number #1...hahahaha.
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by core » Fri Jul 16, 2010 2:16 am
397. Prehistoric Isle : 0.075707 01 0.003077
Awwwwwwwwww.
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by Kaiser » Fri Jul 16, 2010 5:54 am
Nothing's changed, people still argue everywhere about the list. Basically, these top lists are full of *beep* like always. Because they always make people argue between each other. Seriously the only thing that makes this list better is lack of icycalm. So by any means, these lists bring war and not more love to our genre. By the way, everyone lacks common sense. Also *beep* cave shmups (post-ketsui ones anyway).
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by mumu » Fri Jul 16, 2010 8:50 am
It seems somewhere in the vote counting process someone made a mistake. Gradius V is rater higher than Ikaruga. Should be relatively easy to figure out where the problem is or was.
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by Matsunaga » Fri Jul 16, 2010 2:41 pm
I like the top 25. I've spent lots of time with every game on it, except Ketsui. I wish Bakraid and Shiki 2 made the list, and that DDP took back it's rightful spot at #1, but overall it's great.
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by evil_ash_xero » Fri Jul 16, 2010 11:31 pm
I still don't get the frothing demand for Raiden Fighters...I have it, but I just sorta like it.
And Dangun is better than Guwange? Hrmmmm....
Well, i've seen worse.
I wonder what's given Garegga that extra push lately? It's great, but it's been number 1 for two years now. Interesting.
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by incognoscente » Sat Jul 17, 2010 12:40 am
Okay, not exactly a bug. The errors were committed by me in an external data file the program uses. When writing the program, I hadn't thought to include error checking and correction for that file. The program read in incorrect crap I wrote, assumed it was right, then proceeded to eat
Viewpoint and
Seirei Senshi Spriggan and play favorites with
Fantasy Zone . The
Raiden II vs
Raiden II (PS1) error was actually my fault when I was prettying up the names in the output file: the former should have been
Raiden III .
I have run the ballots through again and updated the full results above. Nothing in the Top 25 or Honorable Mention has changed position. The changes are as follows:
Fantasy Zone drops from #89 to #118. Strikers 1945 , Mountain of Faith , and everything in between shifted up one place.
Viewpoint takes #135. Gradius Rebirth and everything below it moves down one position.
Seirei Senshi Spriggan takes #201. Patriot Dark and everything below it shifts down one.
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by Danbo » Sat Jul 17, 2010 2:19 am
not as cave-dominated as youd think
go go garegga! we love you greg
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by professor ganson » Sat Jul 17, 2010 2:25 am
Incognoscente, following up on a point that I think Rob made:
at 119/121 gun.smoke and image fight shouldn't be labelled "NES". I doubt that anyone was voting for the NES versions of those games.
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by incognoscente » Sat Jul 17, 2010 6:25 am
Your doubt is misplaced. EricDaNerd voted for the NES version of Gun.Smoke and shadowbringer voted for the NES version of Image Fight . No other votes for either game specified platform at all . I do not reward laziness. My time is too valuable for that.
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by Rob » Sat Jul 17, 2010 7:21 am
People who prefer scaled down ports should specify that they have bad taste. Everyone else plays the arcade versions.
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by TrevHead (TVR) » Sat Jul 17, 2010 1:39 pm
Rob wrote: People who prefer scaled down ports should specify that they have bad taste. Everyone else plays the arcade versions.
Its probably the nostalga factor
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by shadowbringer » Sat Jul 17, 2010 3:56 pm
I've never played the original Image Fight, and found the NES version fun (back when I still had a NES). More fun than B-Wings, imho (which was fun back then, too)