Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 demo out on JPN PSN site...

[Elixir]

Oneechanbara Vortex sucked and I still played through 4 difficulties of it. I usually give things the benefit of the doubt, even if they're bad. Plus at the time I was really bored.

I'd rather play a game for 20 hours and pick it to pieces over playing it for 2 minutes and going "oh I don't like that".

[Strider77]

don't forget you hated resident evil 5 also... you should make a list for us.

[Skykid]

don't forget you hated resident evil 5 also...

Wha?!...

[Elixir]

I don't hate RE5 but I'm not a fan of bad controls and dumb AI, no.

I don't hate NG either, I liked Black a lot,and was really disappointed when they released NG2. To me it was like Itagaki was trying to take on too much at once. Maybe if he didn't have to deal with that Tecmo scandal while in the process of making it. For me it was the disappointment of the year, followed after Blue Dragon. NG2's demo was above that of the entire game.

[Skykid]

Blue Dragon.

That was disappointing indeed.

[Elixir]

Well I downloaded the demo. As expected, I'm disappointed. Sigma 2 is basically a slightly remixed version of NG2. The demo is identical to the NG2 demo, but there's a huge status boss in it instead. Ayane seemed more fun to control but she's probably an unlockable.

I didn't die and I didn't bother to see if there were any loading times, but yeah, it just feels identical to NG2 in every way.

[Skykid]

Well I downloaded the demo. As expected, I'm disappointed. Sigma 2 is basically a slightly remixed version of NG2. The demo is identical to the NG2 demo, but there's a huge status boss in it instead. Ayane seemed more fun to control but she's probably an unlockable.

I didn't die and I didn't bother to see if there were any loading times, but yeah, it just feels identical to NG2 in every way.

I agree with you. That's why I mentioned to Taylor that if he really disliked the original, I was surprised he was raving about the demo so much. The camera may be slightly improved, but it isn't a total fix by any stretch. I'd say it was slightly tighter overall, but it shouldn't convert people who really didn't click with it first time around.
Normally I'd chalk it up to fanboyism, but Taylor went and got himself a 360 in the end (succumbed didn't'cha! )

And there's no blood. Boo to censoring for a larger sales audience.

[Elixir]

It's a Japanese demo. I bet the US version will have blood.

But more blood means more content, which means more slowdown which means more dying and frustration. I'll pass on both.

[Strider77]

how did the slowdown make you die MORE?! I would prefer there be no slowdown at all.... but it made it easier by far when it was active. it's like you look to pick anything small flaw apart.

ninja gaiden was not perfect, but I enjoyed it so much. most my gaming fun doesn't come wrapped in a perfect 10.

what DO you like a lot elixer out of curiosity?

[Taylor]

I agree with you. That's why I mentioned to Taylor that if he really disliked the original, I was surprised he was raving about the demo so much. The camera may be slightly improved, but it isn't a total fix by any stretch. I'd say it was slightly tighter overall, but it shouldn't convert people who really didn't click with it first time around.
Normally I'd chalk it up to fanboyism, but Taylor went and got himself a 360 in the end (succumbed didn't'cha! )

I have already said the additional changes that I noticed playing the Sigma demo, I might be mistaken but I notice you have ignored rather than refuted. If anything I'll enjoy the missions, weapons and new characters for a little bit until a buggy enemy spawns me outside the game world or something.

And a fan boy comment? Why, because I do not respond with glee to your monthly “man, this black box sucks” threads? I work with the 360 so if I actively loathed them I would be in trouble, and I brought my (first) 360 ages ago for Ninja Gaiden 2, specifically, which is the main reason I hope this version is what it should have been.

Besides, not to weaken my defense any, but buying a console isn't enough to discount somebody as being a fanboy. I mean you brought a PS3 and it's clear you've choosen a side. Let's be honest there's only one reason you're repeatedly saying "it's basically the same with no blood" in the face of the evidence and quoting random comments from Playstation sites. It’s kind of unprofessional isn’t it?

And there's no blood. Boo to censoring for a larger sales audience.

I’m not sure that’s the reason, given that the larger audience rather likes blood the game has introduced titsaxis™, there’s something else going on here.

[Skykid]

...

Er... I didn't mean to incite an argument. My comments were meant to be light hearted.

Why so serious?

[Strider77]

can't this thread get back on track to folks that actually liked NG2, and those that hate it just be happy with the fact that we now know you hate it and move on.

Those that liked it aren't going to convince those that don't to magically like it (just magically play all the way through it even though it's a terrible experience) and those that hate it aren't going to makes folks who loved it magically hate it.

[Elixir]

how did the slowdown make you die MORE?! I would prefer there be no slowdown at all.... but it made it easier by far when it was active. it's like you look to pick anything small flaw apart.

The same way slowdown gets me killed in shmups. It ends.

[Skykid]

how did the slowdown make you die MORE?! I would prefer there be no slowdown at all.... but it made it easier by far when it was active. it's like you look to pick anything small flaw apart.

The same way slowdown gets me killed in shmups. It ends.

It wouldn't get you killed in MD Steel Empire. Not a chance.

[Strider77]

is anyone on this board here gonna play this online co-op?

[GaijinPunch]

Is it me or does the blood in the whitey version look a little tacked on and over the top?

[Strider77]

Japanese version had it also on 360 (it got a z rating).... only version that doesn't is PS3. it looks different when not freeze framed at the perfect moment and angle, those pics make it look a bit more spectacular than it is (it happens really quickly animation wise).

I'd rather have it then not though.... but I am excited still for the PS3 release, but I will miss wacking off those limbs with samuarai showdown/spirits like arterial spray.

over the top?? lol.. yes very much so.

[Skykid]

Is it me or does the blood in the whitey version look a little tacked on and over the top?

It's a beautiful crimson showreel man.

[GaijinPunch]

Exessive blood in games reminds me of the "l0l you suckorz" western dipshits that recent days of spawned. Maybe I'm thinking way too hard on the subject.

[Zaarock]

I think this vid is a pretty good example of the gore in NG2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrEXRXjsKGg
Funny how the player seems to breeze through the hardest difficulty.

[Skykid]

Exessive blood in games reminds me of the "l0l you suckorz" western dipshits that recent days of spawned. Maybe I'm thinking way too hard on the subject.

You are, the Mortal Kombat fad is long gone.

EDIT: Man, that vid is so cool! (wish I could play the game that well. )

[PepsimanVsJoe]

Damn that vid almost makes me want to give NG2 another shot...almost.

[Strider77]

to me japan pretty much coined the arterial spray in their samurai flicks, games and anime ect when I was a kid.... no white blood in my samurai showdown.

[Skykid]

to me japan pretty much coined the arterial spray in their samurai flicks, games and anime ect when I was a kid.... no white blood in my samurai showdown.

An astute observation dude.

The Japanese have become a little more prudish these days though (did they actually ban GOW 2?)

[GaijinPunch]

You are, the Mortal Kombat fad is long gone.

Yet here we are bitching about lack of blood.

[Skykid]

You are, the Mortal Kombat fad is long gone.

Yet here we are bitching about lack of blood.

Sorry dude, poor phrasing. I meant the idea that gimmicky gore in western games like MK is in the past.

[GaijinPunch]

Ah, touche'.

[Elixir]

I think this vid is a pretty good example of the gore in NG2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrEXRXjsKGg
Funny how the player seems to breeze through the hardest difficulty.

He's really skilled and he almost died. I don't like to compare everything to shmups, but to me, Ninja Gaiden 2 is like Raiden. Chances are you'll get blindsided unless you're randomly dodging, you'll die. Master Ninja is ridiculous, I think Mentor is about as hard as an action game like this should be.

[Zaarock]

I think this vid is a pretty good example of the gore in NG2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrEXRXjsKGg
Funny how the player seems to breeze through the hardest difficulty.

He's really skilled and he almost died.

Yeah, those explosive shuriken ninjas are the hardest enemy in the game pretty much and annoying to fight. He could have probably lured them to a small space one by one like some of the previous enemies but decided to fight them head on. Apparently the explosive shuriken enemies have been made easier for sigma 2.

[The n00b]

Yeah this game is lifeless on the ps3. It went from an interactive grindhouse-like cheesy kung-fu movie to standard action game. Still plays great but it's like Ico without the atmosphere.