shmups on a modded xbox (the old one)

[fumanchu]

yeah i know its just an issue that couldnt get resolved.
for anyone that needs the ingame menu.
first press back and black together to pause the game.

then press back and white together to enter the in game menu.
you can remap the gamepad to whichever you like it or use the dipswitches,cheats........blahblah...you get the idea!
im actually testing a new version of this with more options added.
with original aspect ratio on horizontal games
original aspect ratio on vertical games.
bezels,artwork now included.
option to mount screen as horizontal(the same as screen rotate but the buttons and pad arent rotated).
its hard to keep up with all the new additions.

[thamasha69]

I just tried the new Coipops Ignite standalone and it is great. Thanks for the heads up. The games feel much more playable and responsive than they did in fbaxxx. Also seems to play several more games that didn't work in fbaxxx.

Regarding the x68000 emulator, has anyone gotten Otoko Dama to work? I have been itching to play this for a long time.

[fumanchu]

I just tried the new Coipops Ignite standalone and it is great. Thanks for the heads up. The games feel much more playable and responsive than they did in fbaxxx. Also seems to play several more games that didn't work in fbaxxx.

Regarding the x68000 emulator, has anyone gotten Otoko Dama to work? I have been itching to play this for a long time.

did you get the new standalone release that was released last week along with the screenshot pack?

[thamasha69]

The one I got looks to have been released almost 2 weeks ago?? Seems to be the most up to date, though I have been out of the loop for a while.

[thamasha69]

Regarding the x68000 emulator, has anyone gotten Otoko Dama to work? I have been itching to play this for a long time.

Nevermind. I figured it out! Great game. Seems to run quite well too. Some sound fx seem a little buggy but other than that good to go. I am having trouble determining if the game is running at the right speed. I only have youtube videos to compare to. Anyone else try this game on x68000x?

[fumanchu]

yeah the standalone was released about 2weeks ago and isnt in beta anymore also the full release has just been put out there with a 1000rom package.
as for your x68000 question havent tried that one yet as i play way to much chorensha on that emu.

[Ed Oscuro]

Wow, X68000 sure does have some shmups beyond Cho Ren Sha. I will have to try them out somehow!

Unfortunately it doesn't seem completely straightforward to get 5.25" disks readied for a real machine, even though I bought an old 5.25" for the purpose. Thank goodness for emulators.

[thamasha69]

Yeah, I got Chorensha and Otoko Dama on there at the moment and they are incredibly good fun.

I am not a fan of emulation, though I use it. I purchased the xbox just to mod and run FBAXXX a while ago....it wasn't good enough so I bought a supergun and have purchased a few pcb's since then.

Coinops, however, rekindled my interest and faith and is proving to be a perfect way to take my games on the go. And now having x68000x makes the the old xbox all the better...just makes me want a x68k now (just as emulation led me to the purchase of a supergun)

[fumanchu]

you should try some of the pc engine shooters or even the pc engine cd shooters as they work great on medanafenx-pce.
i have also been messing around with the neogeocd emu for xbox this week ironclad plays really well on the emu.

[thamasha69]

Thanks for the heads up. I will certainly will give the PC Engine emu a shot. I presume it plays anything, including Supergrafx stuff?

Just got a component cable for the xbox for $5. I know the xbox won't output 240p, but I have it going from component into my xrgb2+. Turn off all filtering/anti aliasing in the emus and turn the sharpness and scan lines all the way up on the xrgb. I am quite pleased with the picture. Its no "thick scanlines 240p good", but better than any other monitor setup I have at the moment.

[fumanchu]

yeah it plays supergraphix just fine just a pity there was only 5 games released for it.the ghoulsnghosts and 1941 ports are both excellent though.

[thamasha69]

I can't wait to try the supergrafx port of 1941. I probably won't be able to give the emu a shot for a couple days damnit

[gameoverDude]

sengeki striker runs way to slow on coinops and mameox128 seeing as it is based on stv hardware.brave blade is really slow as well as that is based on ps1 arcade hardware.
if you want to run sengeki striker then play it on pcsxbox19 as it plays perfectly.
cyvern in tate mode along with other shmups plays fine.

Actually, Sengeki Striker runs on Super Kaneko Nova 32-bit hardware (as Cyvern does, with one SH-2 @ around 28.6 MHz). The Saturn/STV is double SH-2 at the same speed. I could see Shienryu being even worse on speed.

I've tried the SG GnG- not bad at all. I would've liked to see Strider to follow that one up. MD Strider at 8-Meg is a tough version to top, but the SG could surely have done a kickass job with a 12-Meg card. The existing Arcade Card CD version should really have been better than it is - I wish I knew why the hell it looked worse than the MD cart, esp. when the AC's RAM is double that size.

[Exe]

Coinops Ignite is quite nice.

I'm wondering if there are input delay fixes for games like Batrider?

Is there a special trick to get Cyvern to work? My Xbox is freezing when I'm trying to load it.

[Talon]

Hmm this is something that I will have to try. I have an older version of Mame on my XBOX. Is there a good place that you guys download any roms, but specifically shmups?

[croikle]

google is your friend

can't say anything more

[fumanchu]

Coinops Ignite is quite nice.

I'm wondering if there are input delay fixes for games like Batrider?

Is there a special trick to get Cyvern to work? My Xbox is freezing when I'm trying to load it.

cyvern works just fine,it could just be your rom you are using.
you could be missing the bios file skns,it goes into your roms folder.

[fumanchu]

ok guys new release for coinops ignite now is at version3.
coinops ignite v3
new features and changes.
Background Music while selecting games
New Settings and Revamped Settings
New Reset To Defaults Settings
New fancy intergrated Random Game/Fav Selector/Launcher
Mouse/Trackball Support
Bug Fixs (like R2 you couldnt set more paths in hiddensettings)
More sensitivity adjustments for analog games
improved launching screen
improved OSD for cheats and gamepad etc
Tidyups

in version2 there were improvements made to autofire where you can assign to any button and improvements made to auto rotate screen so it will only rotate vertical shooters and all your other vertical games will not be rotated.
obviously these changes made in v2 are also in v3.

[BelmontHeir]

Hey guys. I know this thread has been inactive for a few months but I could use some help. I recently softmodded my Xbox - literally yesterday - and used AutoInstaller Deluxe vers 4.0 to put a bunch of emulators on there. Here's the problem: the emulators seem pretty outdated. A bunch of the games I downloaded for MAMEdox had missing files and wouldn't run. About the only shmup I could get running was AeroFighters 1. And for what ever reason, fbaxxx and fbaxxx pro won't even load...they just crash/glitch right on start up.

Here's my question: what emulators would you recommend that I put on my Xbox in order to be able to play the latest MAME files, as well as the shmups you guys have mentioned?

Also, is putting these emulators on to my Xbox as simple as copying them to the emulators folder, or do they have to be installed?

I can't really do FTP because my Xbox is so far from my modem and router. I've been relying on burned DVDs for everything.

Thanks, I really appreciate any help. I'd love to be able to play more shmups on my Xbox.

[Continue]

Is it possible to put a chip to change the nand memory + game location unlocking by another way ? thanks

[BelmontHeir]

Well guys, it took some time and several wasted DVDs, but I ended up getting CoinOps Reignite Standlaone HD to run on my XBox. I'm assuming that's the most current version but this thing seems to update all the time and I had a hard time actually finding the thing available for download.

So far it seems pretty awesome, and at least 85% of the games I had problems with on MAMEdox work on CoinOps. The only two games I couldn't get to work were Cyvern and Mars Matrix, which both claimed to have missing files. I'm not sure if that's a case of CoinOps being outdated or the files I downloaded being outdated.

The import thing is that I got a few Cave shooters to work.

And Continue, I'm not sure what you're asking. I'm pretty sure a Xbox mod requires one of two things: a.) a softmod (which is what I did), or b.) a hardmod involving soldering a chip onto the motherboard and all that. If you've screwed up a softmod and accidentally unlocked your system, or you just want to increase your Xbox's HDD, I believe you have to do a hardmod.

[Kyle]

I figured I'd chime in since the old Xbox is my shmup platform of choice (aside from the PS2 and the limited US 360 releases we receive ). I'll try to help out when I can.

The people who are complaining about incorrect roms with CoinOPS need to get ones that are compatible with MAME 0.84. You can download that version of Mame for your PC to test the games before transferring them to your Xbox. I would also recommend using RomCenter to audit your roms.

CoinOPS is the way to go for Mame. The most recent versions forceably rotate the controls when you rotate the screen. This is is ridiculous when you're playing a vertical game. Maybe there's someone out there who enjoys playing with their stick turned sideways. I personally do not. The older builds don't do this. Since the core of Mame it uses doesn't change (and is considerably outdated) there's no disadvantage to using an older version. There are other releases of Mame, but they have their own issues. The last build of MAMEoX occasionally hangs on my system and requires the game save to be deleted/recreated. I haven't seen this with CoinOPS.

FBA-XXX Pro is my emulator of choice. It doesn't run as many games as CoinOPS, but the emulation is considerably better imho. There aren't random hiccups and slowdown like with CoinOPS. It feels much more like you're running the game on real hardware versus kludging along on some inferior downloaded mess. Quality versus quantity. One notably thing with it is that the in-game menu is activated by clicking in the right thumbstick (R3). If you're using a stick be sure to connect an Xbox controller to one of the other ports. Otherwise you won't be pausing your game. This is also how the rapid fire options are enabled.

Personally, I only play vertical shmups since the TV on my desk is rotated. Here's my semi-comprehensive list of vertical titles for FBA-XXX Pro. This may include a couple of land-based shmups (no harm there). This does not include any clones or revisions, etc. This was generated from a complete romset and includes 30+ titles. If there's an obvious omission I'll be sure and update it.

1941: 1941.zip
1945k III: 1945kiii.zip
19XX: 19xx.zip
Aero Fighters: aerofgt.zip
Air Gallet: agallet.zip
Armed police Batrider: batrider.zip
Batsugun: batsugun.zip
Battle Bakraid: bbakraid.zip
Battle Garegga: bgaregga.zip
DoDonPachi: ddonpach.zip
Dangun Feveron: dfeveron.zip
Dimahoo: dimahoo.zip
Dogyuun: dogyuun.zip
DonPachi: donpachi.zip
ESP Ra.De.: esprade.zip
Explosive Breaker: explbrkr.zip
Final Star Force: fstarfrc.zip
Gunbird: gunbird.zip
Guwange: guwange.zip
Hotdog Storm: hotdogst.zip
Mahou Daisakusen: mahoudai.zip
Mazinger Z: mazinger.zip
Mercs: mercs.zip
Out Zone: outzone.zip
Raiden: raiden.zip
Strikers 1945: s1945.zip
Samurai Aces: samuraia.zip
Shippu Mahou Daisakusen: shippumd.zip
Truxton: truxton.zip
Truxton II: truxton2.zip
Turbo Force: turbofrc.zip
Varth: varth.zip
V Five: vfive.zip

[BelmontHeir]

Quick question - I found a list of games compatible with MAME .84 at Xbox-scene. The only thing is, they list a bunch of games as incompatible that I've gotten to work with CoinOPs Reignite, such as ESP Ra and Cadillacs & Dinosaurs. Would this list not be helpful then? I guess I can use it as a general guideline for what games do work.

Here's a list of games I haven't been able to get to run. Some are vertical, some are horizontal. Most of them claimed to be missing files.

Raiden Fighters 2 (supposed to work with CoinOPS)
Cotton
Cotton 2 (this one said something about not having enough internal memory to run)
Cyvern
G-Parodius
Mars Matrix (just missing 3 files)
Progear

Also could not get Golden Axe: Revenge of the Death Adder or Die Hard Arcade to run.

I'd appreciate any help/advice.

[BelmontHeir]

Now I'm confused. I'm pretty sure that CoinOPS told me that Mars Matrix was missing the files "mmxux.03", .04, and .05. I checked the file that I used and it has the files "mmxu.03," etc. Wouldn't they be the same thing, or is mmxux an updated version of Mars Matrix?

[fumanchu]

Quick question - I found a list of games compatible with MAME .84 at Xbox-scene. The only thing is, they list a bunch of games as incompatible that I've gotten to work with CoinOPs Reignite, such as ESP Ra and Cadillacs & Dinosaurs. Would this list not be helpful then? I guess I can use it as a general guideline for what games do work.

Here's a list of games I haven't been able to get to run. Some are vertical, some are horizontal. Most of them claimed to be missing files.

Raiden Fighters 2 (supposed to work with CoinOPS)
Cotton
Cotton 2 (this one said something about not having enough internal memory to run)
Cyvern
G-Parodius
Mars Matrix (just missing 3 files)
Progear

Also could not get Golden Axe: Revenge of the Death Adder or Die Hard Arcade to run.

I'd appreciate any help/advice.

the list over at xbox scene is a waste of time dont bother with it.
as for your list.
raiden fighters2-you need the rom raiden fighters 2(2000)
cotton-dosent work as it is an fd-encrtypted game and there are no bootleg roms of this game.play the sharp x68000 version of this game on x68000x or ps1 version on pcsxbox.
cotton2-saturn based stv board game dont waste your time wont work.
cyvern -works just fine,you are probably missing the skns bios for the hardware.
mars matrix-plays fine
progear-plays fine,all cps2 games work on coinops reignite.
other games you should try
vasara1 and 2
change air blade
storm blade
darius gaiden
darius1and 2-if you play these games on mame the screen is usually long and thin because of the original arcade games screen,well this has now been fixed and plays them full screen along with,ninja warriors,rastan 3.....
salamander2
gradius1,2and3
rtype1,2and leo
strikers 19451,2and3
gunbird1and2
dragon blaze...

[BelmontHeir]

Thanks for the help. I'll have to look for that Cotton PS1 game. That's probably my favorite cute-em-up series.

I'm going to try and upload a bunch more shmups now.

I have a quick question: when I ran Auto Installer Deluxe, I just installed everything - all apps and emulators. I was under the impression that the Xbox HDD was a bit bigger than it was. I deleted all the emulators I didn't want, so now I have about 2.5 GB open for future MAME games. I'm just wondering, is it safe to delete most of the Applications that were installed as well? I just want to make sure I don't delete something that's crucial to the softmod, but most of them just seem like programs for FTP or cosmetic stuff. I don't really have any plans to use Xbox Media Center and that thing took up like half a gig.

[fumanchu]

Thanks for the help. I'll have to look for that Cotton PS1 game. That's probably my favorite cute-em-up series.

I'm going to try and upload a bunch more shmups now.

I have a quick question: when I ran Auto Installer Deluxe, I just installed everything - all apps and emulators. I was under the impression that the Xbox HDD was a bit bigger than it was. I deleted all the emulators I didn't want, so now I have about 2.5 GB open for future MAME games. I'm just wondering, is it safe to delete most of the Applications that were installed as well? I just want to make sure I don't delete something that's crucial to the softmod, but most of them just seem like programs for FTP or cosmetic stuff. I don't really have any plans to use Xbox Media Center and that thing took up like half a gig.

list the apps and dashboards that were installed into your xbox and what is the main dash your xbox boots up when you firt turn it on.
oh yeah check your pm in about 5mins.

edit/by the way here is a full screenshot pack for coinops,this screenshot pack works with any version of coinops.
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=XX2ODJZD

[Exe]

fba-xx plays batrider and the cps2 games very well.

is there a way to unlock the guest characters in batrider?

When I enter the dip switches it only allows me to unlock the stage edit.

[fumanchu]

fba-xx plays batrider and the cps2 games very well.

is there a way to unlock the guest characters in batrider?

When I enter the dip switches it only allows me to unlock the stage edit.

yes there is,im geussing you dont have a cheat file for fbaxxx.if not download this unrar it and put it in your fbaxxx folder.
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=KURCDFQE

if there is a folder called cheats already in your fbaxxx folder just delete and put in this one.there is cheats for most of the games including progear.but not the neogeo games asyou can use cheats for neogeo games by turning on the universal bios option in the options in fbaxx.
to use cheats go into your options on the main screen and go to emulator settings and turn on cheats.when done play a game and click down on the right thumbstick,this should bring up the ingame menu and you should see the cheats option there and you can choose what you wish.

[Kyle]

I downloaded an old Mame catver.ini and sorted out the Vertical shooters for CoinOPS. Here's what I was able to extract from the Big Ass Emulator Disc 3a (Mame DVD). I assumed it was a complete set. There's actually quite a bit missing, probably due to size constraints. I'm guessing that the titles that run on Final Burn were included on that DVD instead.

1941.zip
1942.zip
1943.zip
1943kai.zip
1945kiii.zip
aerofgt.zip
airduel.zip
ajax.zip
arbalest.zip
armedf.zip
ashura.zip
aso.zip
bakubrkr.zip
bermudat.zip
blastoff.zip
blswhstl.zip
bluehawk.zip
chopper.zip
cybattlr.zip
cyvern.zip
daioh.zip
dangar.zip
dangseed.zip
darwin.zip
desertwr.zip
dragnblz.zip
dsaber.zip
dspirit.zip
earthjkr.zip
eightfrc.zip
exedexes.zip
fghtatck.zip
fhawk.zip
finalizr.zip
firebatl.zip
fshark.zip
galmedes.zip
gekirido.zip
gemini.zip
gondo.zip
gseeker.zip
gulfwar2.zip
gunbird.zip
gunbird2.zip
gunfront.zip
gunnail.zip
halleys.zip
hotdogst.zip
imgfight.zip
ktiger2.zip
lastday.zip
lethalth.zip
lgtnfght.zip
lwings.zip
macross.zip
macrossp.zip
madshark.zip
masterw.zip
mazinger.zip
metafox.zip
mx5000.zip
nebulray.zip
neobattl.zip
nost.zip
omegaf.zip
phelios.zip
plusalph.zip
pollux.zip
raiden.zip
raphero.zip
rshark.zip
ryujin.zip
s1945.zip
samuraia.zip
scion.zip
skyadvnt.zip
skyalert.zip
skyshark.zip
skysmash.zip
skysoldr.zip
slapbtuk.zip
srdarwin.zip
srdmissn.zip
ssmissin.zip
starforc.zip
stg.zip
stmblade.zip
superx.zip
sxevious.zip
tbyahhoo.zip
tdragon2.zip
tdragonb.zip
terracre.zip
tnexspce.zip
tokiob.zip
truxton.zip
turbofrc.zip
twinbee.zip
twincobr.zip
twineag2.zip
twineagl.zip
ultrax.zip
vasara.zip
vulgus.zip
wndrplnt.zip
wrofaero.zip
xevious.zip
zingzip.zip