so obviously he isnt fighting fedor this weekend.....
what an idiot....you would think after he got busted for juicing after he beat couture for teh heavyweight title in UFC in 2002 he might have learned his lesson.....
this is only his second fight in the states since 2002 and he is fucked now....
oh well....back to japan where they dont test for roids....
sux tho....i was looking forward to the fight
on the bright side they are trying to get vitor belfort to fight fedor now....
id be willing to bet affliction will fold after this...they were hurting before this and this might just be the last straw
but honestly, out of anybody who has gone up against fedor since the demise of pride, i think barnett would have given him the best go of it....his style of fighting would be a well matched counter to fedor's style
belfort is going to be annihilated.....first off, he is currently fighting at 185lbs.......so he is walking around at like 200-205lbs max....he will come into the fight probably around 220lbs, but it wont be 'good' weight cuz he just threw it on in 10days, so mostly water weight.....now he is going to be fighting somebody who walks around at 240lbs. and manhandles 300 lb.'ers like children.....
i have a feeling its going to be a very quick fight
Im just as pissed at Barnett as you are. He blew it for himself and the fans. Theres a possibility the CSAC fucked this one up like they did with Sherk, but considering his past history...doubtful.
The Belfort matchup has some possibilities. While unlikely, would the MMA world explode if he just straight knocked Fedor cold?
its always possible.....but i think the chances of belfort winning this one are slim to none.....maybe if he had a month even, he could bulk up and train more....but to get ready to fight fedor and put on 15-20 lbs. in like 10 days......good luck
Fukkit I wasn't surprised, even tim sylva tried roids once and he looks like shit. Sherk though I don't think anyone was surprised but even still when things go wrong its not helping anyone. Belfort was caught a few years back aswell.
Unfortunately Vitor has been on a hot/cold streak for a long time, I remember his insane hands against tank abbott and silva back in 2001-2(?) use to be an insane fighter and one of my favs. Blitzing fedor isn't going to work though he just too strong technically.
To beat fedor you're talking 6-8 months of preparation, Arlovski is the only guy who's come close in a long time and to be honest he was ahead before the KO, if he hadn'y gone for the flying Knee his jab looked like it was going to catch him for the win. Ultimately Fedor punishes people when they make mistakes I haven't paid much attention to Vitor for awhile I'll watch some of his most recent fights and make a prediction nearer the time.
If I wanted anyone to fight fedor it would be Cro Cop purely because their last fight in Pride FC is my favourite all time bout.
Is Semmy Schilt still going? He wiped out everybody in seconds last time I saw him. Just broke them up with his knees.
6ft 10 or 11. Kinda hard to fight I guess.
& he doesn't need gear. He's got the natural weight that comes with great height.
Not as handsome as Team Royale with Cheese though.
Diabollokus wrote:Fukkit I wasn't surprised, even tim sylva tried roids once and he looks like shit. Sherk though I don't think anyone was surprised but even still when things go wrong its not helping anyone. Belfort was caught a few years back aswell.
Unfortunately Vitor has been on a hot/cold streak for a long time, I remember his insane hands against tank abbott and silva back in 2001-2(?) use to be an insane fighter and one of my favs. Blitzing fedor isn't going to work though he just too strong technically.
To beat fedor you're talking 6-8 months of preparation, Arlovski is the only guy who's come close in a long time and to be honest he was ahead before the KO, if he hadn'y gone for the flying Knee his jab looked like it was going to catch him for the win. Ultimately Fedor punishes people when they make mistakes I haven't paid much attention to Vitor for awhile I'll watch some of his most recent fights and make a prediction nearer the time.
If I wanted anyone to fight fedor it would be Cro Cop purely because their last fight in Pride FC is my favourite all time bout.
fedor was baiting arlovski.....arlovski did nothing to really hurt fedor.....fedor was just content to let arlovski be the aggressor and he ended it first opportunity he was given.....arlovski was seizing on the ground....
this is fedor's style.....he waits until he decides he wants to end the fight......and then he ends it......simple as that......
belfort's last few fights have been more like vitor of old, but his main obstacle is gonna be the difference in weight.....you cannot throw on 20lbs in less than 2 weeks and not hurt your conditioning......
as for a fedor-crocop rematch.....crocop cant fight like he used to...especially on american soil with drug testing.....
as for semmy shildts(sp?)...he has never been a dominant force in MMA.....where he has shone is K1 and kickboxing organizations
fedor was baiting arlovski.....arlovski did nothing to really hurt fedor.....fedor was just content to let arlovski be the aggressor and he ended it first opportunity he was given.....arlovski was seizing on the ground....
this is fedor's style.....he waits until he decides he wants to end the fight......and then he ends it......simple as that......
I disagree, Arlovsky really was winning that fight before he got KO'd. He had some good punches and it really looked like Fedor got hurt by a few of them. You're definitely right about Fedor waiting for just the right moment to win though. That's what he does. Still, Arlovsky was the closest anyone has been in a LONG time to beating Fedor.
As for Semmy Schilt, Fedor already crushed him. I don't care much to see that again. Wasn't the greatest fight originally, since Schilt has zip for grappling ability.
"I think Ikaruga is pretty tough. It is like a modern version of Galaga that some Japanese company made."
Call me crazy.. I believe Fedor is pound for pound the best MMA fighter right now. But I think his standup is a little sloppy, and I also think he has trouble with guys smaller and faster than him. I think the little Lindland debacle with him grabbing the ropes proves that, and he has stated it himself in a recent interview.
Yes, I know he KOed big Tim and Arlovski, but that was on the inside pocket and from a standup/boxing perspective his shots are not top tier striking.
Vitor will probably get smashed yes, but he has a chance. He'll be quicker, and I believe his standup/boxing is better. If he gets taken down its game over of course. But he has a slim chance to shock the world.
he is very precise with his shots and he can drop you with anything....when you watch fedor fight he rarely throws punches that dont connect....that is not a characteristic of a sloppy fighter.....he plans his shits and capitalizes on any slips in the opponents guard....you go out of position fedor will end your night
if you think his striking is sloppy you havent seen enough of his fights
I've seen every single one of them, actually. His timing is perfect, not his standup, it's easy to confuse so many people think that he is a top level striker.
Look at his strikes on Tim. Effective, but he doesn't even turn his fist the right way, it's that kind of thing that's caused the numerous hand injuries over his career. Any pure boxer or striker will tell you its sloppy. He was also getting backed up against Arlovski, he wasn't choosing his time to hit him, he was looking for the clinch and takedown when he got closer, and Arlovski fucked up and gifted Fedor the money shot. Timing. He's also gotten rocked hard by Fujita when his timing was off.
I love Fedor too, but don't be blind man. His striking is not as good as you say. He hits hard, but he only strikes to get it to the ground, where he can utilize his sambo/submissions/ground and pound.
Does that mean he is not a well balanced all around mixed martial artist? No, he's been the most balanced, the most versatile for years. But his high level game is on the ground, where he can pull escapes on the bottom, lock on submissions, or ground and pound more effectively than any other heavyweight right now. Not on the feet. He uses his standup carefully to get where he's comfortable with the right timing.
To his credit, he has come to every fight with better standup every time I see him, and he most likely will wreck Belfort. Being a fan of the archetypal Rocky stories, I can't help but root for the major underdog however, Vitor.
FYI Fedor is usually around 220-230 pounds or slightly above, not 240, and he does not handle Super Heavyweights like children. Watch his fights with Hunt and Choi for proof there. He struggled for a bit in both because of their size and weight. He relied on timing and subs to win.
Johnny you should listen to Arasoi, hes been right with pretty much everything.
Watch that Arlovski fight a little closer, The reach advanatge combined with handspeed was causing problems for him, technically that was a points to Arlovski round. One of the things you learn from actually fighting in MMA is that you can only control specific areas of the fight, Fedor's game is complete so he has an advantage over most but he dosen't just click his fingers and say 'Armbar 30 seconds into round 2', no one is god.
His physical strength isn't that great either compared to alot of the bigger guys, yet his conditioning and endurance are possibly the best. For an MMA fighter his striking is top tier, vitors an ex professional boxer and a BJJ black belt so he might be able to put on a good performance.
And now Affliction has officially folded, and their fight contracts are now the UFC's. Dana White has apparently said that Fedor gets an immediate title shot if he signs with the UFC (assumably on their terms)
Very interesting, also consider the possibilities of Mousasi and Vitor in the UFC, at 185 or 205.
Somehow I doubt Fedor will sign with the UFC as long as Dana isn't willing to negotiate the terms. Fedor has said he won't compromise about continuing to do Sambo, which Dana doesn't want to let him do. Dana has also been notorious for being very stubborn when dealing with Fedor in the past.
"I think Ikaruga is pretty tough. It is like a modern version of Galaga that some Japanese company made."
Indeed. Though I think Dana would let the Sambo happen, if Fedor wasn't an M1 only commodity. M1 basically pays him, designates contract terms for fights, and won't let him fight anywhere unless they can co-promote.
The UFC will never do that and compromise their branding. I suspect Barnett/Fedor will just happen in Japan on New Years Eve or earlier, where testing is a total joke or nonexistant. On the bright side, he has Brett Rogers and Allistair Overeem to fight outside the UFC in Strikeforce or Dream if no resolution for UFC signing is possible.
I personally would like to see Roger Gracie start getting some bigger name fights, maybe not Fedor yet.. but after a few more fights.
Unfortunately Roger's striking is nowhere near good enough yet. Really dedicated sport BJJ guys need to make some big adjustments to MMA. Just look at Royler, Marcelo and Jacare.
"I think Ikaruga is pretty tough. It is like a modern version of Galaga that some Japanese company made."
True, it'd be great to see a guy with Roger Gracie's ground credentials go somewhere like American Top Team or Greg Jackson's camp and become a well rounded fighter. He has a lot of potential.
I've met Roger Gracie a few times back in my Gracie Bara days, hes based just over the water from me, cool guy I don't think anyone passed his guard last time he was over. Haven't seen any of his MMA fights save for the H20 one from bodog.
