SNES Lagoon....

dave4shmups · Post by **dave4shmups** » Sat May 23, 2009 5:52 pm

I've seen this described as "a poor man's Ys game", but the combat looks to be a lot more action oriented then the first two Ys games-ie, you actually slash with your sword rather then running into enemies to attack them.

What do you all think?

Ganelon · Post by **Ganelon** » Sat May 23, 2009 6:28 pm

That's the only difference, and unlike games like Zelda, the attack range is annoyingly short. The rest of the game is uninspiring. It wasn't awesome at release (hence no sequel) and it's now an artifact that appeals to few gamers.

ZOM · Post by **ZOM** » Sat May 23, 2009 9:16 pm

dave4shmups wrote:...but the combat looks to be a lot more action oriented then the first two Ys games...

What do you all think?

Say what?! No, sorry but no, Lagoon is crap, and whoever calls this game more action oriented than Ys, either hasn't played Ys or he's really rotten in his brain...

Andi · Post by **Andi** » Sat May 23, 2009 9:44 pm

I really like it. I like its understated graphical style and muted color. It's cartoony but oppressive. Mechanics-wised, it's okay - nothing unusual but everything works well. It's a little generic and little repetitive, but charming in its own way.

brokenhalo · Post by **brokenhalo** » Sat May 23, 2009 10:38 pm

i played through this back in the day but don't really remember anything about it other than that it was "ok". i guess that about sums it up.

dave4shmups · Post by **dave4shmups** » Sun May 24, 2009 12:59 am

Well it is cheap on Ebay, so I might as well get it. I love the SNES for RPG's, although some have gotten Virtual Console releases.

Limbrooke · Post by **Limbrooke** » Sun May 24, 2009 3:25 am

dave4shmups wrote:Well it is cheap on Ebay, so I might as well get it. I love the SNES for RPG's, although some have gotten Virtual Console releases.

I too had Lagoon, keyword "had". In fact it was given away to me by a friend of mine and this was around 10 years ago, for free.

This game is nothing special and basically feels stifled as a result of the awful striking distance. It's a ho-hum game and unless you can find it for less than $2, it's not worth it nor should it be.

UnscathedFlyingObject · Sun May 24, 2009 4:51 am

It's a poor man's Ys and dave is poor so good fit!

There's better obscure $2 games, tho.

Post by **nZero** » Sun May 24, 2009 5:52 am

Reminds me a lot of Elemental Gimmick Gear except with better music. Anyone can compare the X68k version to the SNES version?

No_not_like_Quake · Post by **No_not_like_Quake** » Mon May 25, 2009 1:55 am

I dabbled with the X68k version. It looks and sounds much better than the SNES version but besides that I don't know if there are any gameplay differences.

Ed Oscuro · Post by **Ed Oscuro** » Mon May 25, 2009 4:35 am

go play Secret of Evermore

PepsimanVsJoe · Post by **PepsimanVsJoe** » Mon May 25, 2009 6:08 am

Most of your time playing Lagoon is going to be spent grinding the same foes over and over again just so you can take a little bit more damage before dying.

You can save nearly anywhere but I bet the designers did that as an excuse for the atrocious bosses(huge guys that ruin your crap if you touch them + tiny sword/weakpoint = headaches) and insta-death jumping puzzles(ughghghghhh).

Besides you want more action just play Ys 2. The boss-fights are practically 2D shooters.

Rozyrg · Post by **Rozyrg** » Mon May 25, 2009 7:02 am

I remember I liked the music and that's pretty much it.

Personally, I'd much rather go with something like Soulblazer. Now if only I could find *that* for $2.

No_not_like_Quake · Post by **No_not_like_Quake** » Mon May 25, 2009 3:13 pm

Ah Soulblazer I like. I remember the days of looking forward to a Quintet/Enix game.

dave4shmups · Post by **dave4shmups** » Sat May 30, 2009 8:35 pm

PepsimanVsJoe wrote:Most of your time playing Lagoon is going to be spent grinding the same foes over and over again just so you can take a little bit more damage before dying.

You can save nearly anywhere but I bet the designers did that as an excuse for the atrocious bosses(huge guys that ruin your crap if you touch them + tiny sword/weakpoint = headaches) and insta-death jumping puzzles(ughghghghhh).

Besides you want more action just play Ys 2. The boss-fights are practically 2D shooters.

Well, I actually enjoy level grinding in any RPG.

KindGrind · Post by **KindGrind** » Sun May 31, 2009 3:41 pm

I've always felt the main problem with Lagoon is the fact that your penis is longer than your sword. Pretty retarded.

Cthulhu · Post by **Cthulhu** » Sun May 31, 2009 7:35 pm

I thought there was a Japan-only sequel to this game, but it's been a long, long time since I've thought about this game at all. Could be wrong.

No_not_like_Quake · Post by **No_not_like_Quake** » Sun May 31, 2009 7:50 pm

Cthulhu wrote:I thought there was a Japan-only sequel to this game, but it's been a long, long time since I've thought about this game at all. Could be wrong.

Not to my knowledge. I do remember some pretty rampant rumors about sequels back then though. I remember rumors of sequels to Crystalis (on Neo Geo no less) and Magician Lord.

dave4shmups · Post by **dave4shmups** » Sun May 31, 2009 10:12 pm

No_not_like_Quake wrote:
Cthulhu wrote:I thought there was a Japan-only sequel to this game, but it's been a long, long time since I've thought about this game at all. Could be wrong.
Not to my knowledge. I do remember some pretty rampant rumors about sequels back then though. I remember rumors of sequels to Crystalis (on Neo Geo no less) and Magician Lord.

It's really too bad that there was never a sequel to Crystalis, because it's awesome. I like Magician Lord too, but not as much.

doctorx0079 · Post by **doctorx0079** » Sun May 31, 2009 10:46 pm

No_not_like_Quake wrote:
Cthulhu wrote:I thought there was a Japan-only sequel to this game, but it's been a long, long time since I've thought about this game at all. Could be wrong.
Not to my knowledge. I do remember some pretty rampant rumors about sequels back then though. I remember rumors of sequels to Crystalis (on Neo Geo no less) and Magician Lord.

A sequel to Crystalis on NG would RULE. Sigh.

No_not_like_Quake · Post by **No_not_like_Quake** » Mon Jun 01, 2009 12:01 am

Agreed but I wonder how they would have gone about it. Action RPG wouldn't have made much sense for an arcade game. Maybe it would have been an AES home exclusive, dunno. This was pre-Neo Geo CD AFAIR.

Anyway, I remember it being listed in a few of those import ads at the back of old magazines. I wonder where they got there info from?

Ed Oscuro · Post by **Ed Oscuro** » Mon Jun 01, 2009 1:06 am

No_not_like_Quake wrote:Action RPG wouldn't have made much sense for an arcade game.

The Neo Geo arcade units and the AES both had memory cards. You could also go the password route, as Konami did.

Maybe it would have been an AES home exclusive, dunno.

That's even crazier. Only the CD system allowed them to release games like the Sam Spirits RPG. Although, home users always have subsidized the production costs of the cartridge format, and SS RPG's production costs can't have been too much lower than a cartridge's.

Another vote for SoulBlazer - what I played of it was decent-ish.

Although maybe I'm the wrong person to ask about these things, since I like Light Crusader.

kozo · Post by **kozo** » Mon Jun 01, 2009 9:43 am

PepsimanVsJoe wrote:you want more action just play Ys 2. The boss-fights are practically 2D shooters.

Absolutely true. Same goes for the entire game of Ys Origin played as Hugo.

Not sure if it's cheap but Neugier is kinda cool too.

Jockel · Post by **Jockel** » Mon Jun 01, 2009 11:03 am

Ed Oscuro wrote:go play Secret of Mana

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