I know alot of you guys read Retrogamer also- but man...

Battlesmurf · Post by **Battlesmurf** » Fri May 01, 2009 1:19 am

Not sure what I think about the whole mess- other than what a poor attitude that Stuart guy has. Makes me want to throw away any issue he's had any part in (not really - overall I'm glad the magazine exists). I am just shocked at how that guy acts. Anyways- what is your take on that mess? I don't like the parts where he seems to be ragging on the readers and such- makes me think twice about snagging that magazine I think :/

Yeah- drama drama- but I'm just shocked to see interaction with members of a neat gaming mag end up like *that*.

http://www.neo-geo.com/forums/showthrea ... 192&page=1

Damocles · Post by **Damocles** » Fri May 01, 2009 1:24 am

It's Stuart Campbell. Does anyone take him seriously?

Cthulhu · Post by **Cthulhu** » Fri May 01, 2009 1:34 am

I sorta like the mag but rarely buy it. I understand that in Europe (the UK specifically, since it's a British publication) personal computers were all the rage in the 8/16 bit days, but I just can't really bring myself to give a damn about those articles. I never had a Micro or a Sinclair or anything like that, and some issues are more than half old computer articles (or at least it feels like it). Still, I can't totally write off a retro gaming magazine, so I'm glad it's around.

freddiebamboo · Post by **freddiebamboo** » Fri May 01, 2009 1:38 am

Hey, Stuarts posting on forums again!

Oh wait, that's not good...

KindGrind · Post by **KindGrind** » Fri May 01, 2009 2:15 am

Jesus, that's some drama right there.

So this is the type of brotherly love the ng forum is known for...

The n00b · Post by **The n00b** » Fri May 01, 2009 3:10 am

Yeah Stuart Campbell is like the Perez Hilton of the retro gaming/arcade enthusiast scene. In short, he's a gigantic douche that gets far more attention than he deserves.

Battlesmurf · Post by **Battlesmurf** » Fri May 01, 2009 4:09 am

The n00b wrote:Yeah Stuart Campbell is like the Perez Hilton of the retro gaming/arcade enthusiast scene. In short, he's a gigantic douche that gets far more attention than he deserves.

I don't understand- I wouldn't hire someone like that at all. I don't want to see anybody get fired or wish ill upon anybody- but man does it make RG look pretty icky :/

Sly Cherry Chunks · Post by **Sly Cherry Chunks** » Fri May 01, 2009 4:52 am

Campbell's most obvious and genuine flaw is that he has nothing better to do than respond to these douchebags.

Udderdude · Post by **Udderdude** » Fri May 01, 2009 4:56 am

Uhh ..

http://worldofstuart.excellentcontent.com/100.htm
http://worldofstuart.excellentcontent.com/100v2.htm

Isn't this like, a shitload of copyright violation?

Cthulhu · Post by **Cthulhu** » Fri May 01, 2009 4:59 am

KindGrind wrote:Jesus, that's some drama right there.

So this is the type of brotherly love the ng forum is known for...

In a way, he seems to be bringing them together... after all, now they can just rally around how much they dislike him.

szycag · Post by **szycag** » Fri May 01, 2009 7:44 am

I'm about 3 pages into it. It all seems to come down to Stuart refusing to be diplomatic or politically correct about taking criticism. Why read the other few pages at that point except for a laugh? At the point where he's basically like; I know I'm being a twat, but your criticisms fall flat so I feel so inclined! That's where I'd just stop arguing with the reverend.

Sometimes I think maybe it's not a personality flaw but just a trait. He's a legend in his own mind, and people still put his words in glossy print, what's the use trying to break it down with him? He's probably having a great life and we're the jaded ones. I want to see Raiden 3 through these old fogey goggles he has that made him call it GOTY 2005.

LaserGun · Post by **LaserGun** » Fri May 01, 2009 8:07 am

Stuart's a pussy for not registering at insomnia.ac, that's a fight I wanted to see. He's just a very sad, angry middle-aged man ranting on about crap he really doesn't know about any more.

Also look for the thread here where he didn't know what 'rank' was and started bitching about 'rank' being called 'rank' etc.

Jockel · Post by **Jockel** » Fri May 01, 2009 8:18 am

Lol, what an insulting prick.
I just can't believe how much of an asshole one single person can be.
(hey and i can tell- i'm from germany after all ^_~)

Ed Oscuro · Post by **Ed Oscuro** » Fri May 01, 2009 8:36 am

I like Stuart Campbell

Jockel · Post by **Jockel** » Fri May 01, 2009 8:46 am

Sometimes flamebaiting is just too obvious

I mean you can't be serious?!

Elixir · Post by **Elixir** » Fri May 01, 2009 8:55 am

Hilarious joke. There's a difference between reviewing a series and reviewing a series which you've taken the time to understand, before coming to a conclusion. Apparently he just reviews things based on his opinion, after being appointed a certain task for a pay packet, and not his own observation. This is one reason why I don't read reviews.

The thread eventually progresses into nitpicking over trivial bullshit that only ends up diverting the attention away from the review itself, which is where I stopped reading. It's a case of someone doing a shitty performance, then laughing at the audience behind the curtains. Nothing can be done about it, but he'll continue provoking the shit out of ng.com users until the thread gets derailed and locked.

I could have easily ended up like him.

Jockel · Post by **Jockel** » Fri May 01, 2009 9:12 am

I dunno, i find the thread hilarious.
People point out errors or shortcomings in the review, he makes up some weak excuses and insults everyone.
You know, i dealt with retarded 16-year-olds at work, which were more grown up.

Fenrir · Post by **Fenrir** » Fri May 01, 2009 9:16 am

Hehe. He's always been conceited, boastful, arrogant and a *little* ignorant since when I read his stuff on Amiga Power. At the time, though, it could be done. Not anymore, in the internet era, when everybody can reach anybody and you WILL find someone that knows more than you and kicks your sorry ass.

That's what's happening, and it was bound to happen.
*goes back to the NG forums munching popcorn*

neorichieb1971 · Post by **neorichieb1971** » Fri May 01, 2009 10:04 am

I think if someone insulted me or my work I would stick up for myself too.

Fenrir · Post by **Fenrir** » Fri May 01, 2009 10:17 am

If you did your work in a poor and sloppy way, and your paying customers were not satisfied with it at all, you should probably get fired.

Strider77 · Post by **Strider77** » Fri May 01, 2009 10:53 am

Sometimes flamebaiting is just too obvious Wink
I mean you can't be serious?!

Yeah I don't think he gives a shit about text on a random forum... he's stiring up the flames for fun I think and b/c he can.

I mean I've been guilty of it on gamefaqs out of boredom ect. I've found neo-geo.com more hostile than any other place I've taken seriously forum wise.

Fenrir · Post by **Fenrir** » Fri May 01, 2009 11:13 am

NG.com has always been full of shitheads

but that's why it can get bloody fun, like thas topic there.

You people think Campbell's too cool to give it a damn, but if I were you... I wouldn't be too sure

he's always been very touchy and this stuff is surely driving him crazy, even if he'll always be too cool to admit it.

I keep seeing this "INTARNET IS SRS BUZINESS" like nobody means it, but you should stop thinking nineties and get a bit real.
Internet *can* be srs business, it's not like everything that is said on the internet is automatically shit because it's not the real deal, it's not printed or it's not said face-to-face. Everybody, especially videogame nerds is on the internet. Word of mouth on the internet can decree an economic success or a painful failure. Do you think that Death Smiles would've sold so many copies if it weren't for the internet hype across the world? Internet *can* make the difference, can save people jobs, can save companies. This is only a random example

Hostility towards the guy *can* lead to loss of credibility for RG, and for a paper magazine this is VERY bad, as they're already struggling against digital and free web information.
If I were his boss, I'd tell him to stop arguing like a 7 y/o spoiled brat, acknowledge the fact that the article was pish-poor (but it can happen, especially when you're facing a deadline and you aren't prepared) and tell him that it's the magazine he represents right now, not his face. Also I'd tell him to leave all that people be. If he hadn't answered like that, probably nobody would've cared about that topic. That's why I think that oh, he DOES give a damn

neorichieb1971 · Post by **neorichieb1971** » Fri May 01, 2009 11:55 am

Sloppy journalism in the gaming sector is something new, but the last 10 years of "over all" journalism has been BS. I'm used to it.

jpj · Post by **jpj** » Fri May 01, 2009 11:59 am

this is yet more proof that the only people who actually really read reviews and respond to them, are other amateur reviewers

DEL · Post by **DEL** » Fri May 01, 2009 1:07 pm

He's back!

He Starts on Neo with

Hello idiots!

then:

What on Earth are you dribbling about, tiresome child?

gathers pace:

My sang-froid has to take a momentary back seat here, as I have to suggest that you go fuck yourself, you pompous, arrogant, stupid little prick.

The Neo's come back with:

Welcome to Neo-Geo.com, motherfucker.[/quote]
Then:
it has nothing to do with Metal Slug 3 you stupid fuck.
The Good Rev come back with:
Anyone who says I'm a lazy incompetent shitting out badly-researched crap in a hurry for a deadline will get told to go and fuck themselves with a broken bottle.

Then he gathers pace again:
Don't tell me what I mean, you rude, ignorant, illiterate, arrogant, fucking cunt.

Most enjoyable as usual.

cools · Post by **cools** » Fri May 01, 2009 1:11 pm

Massive fan of Stuart Campbell since the days he worked on Amiga Power. Would've probably been a big fan of his earlier work too if I'd been of an age where I read magazines.

Anyone forming an opinion on him without reading a good chunk of his work (particularly all the fallout with games companies objecting to his reviews of particularly poor games) is likely to get the wrong impression, especially like this where he's expressed an opinion in conflict with the poster's own.

I only wish his obsessiveness with being factually correct, morally right, highly opinionated, and not giving two hoots about upsetting people rubbed off on the rest of video games journalism - it might actually be interesting to follow again.

So yeah, Stu's one of the few reasons I'm proud to be British. RevStu for Prime Minister please.

Skykid · Post by **Skykid** » Fri May 01, 2009 1:32 pm

DEL · Post by **DEL** » Fri May 01, 2009 1:44 pm

cools wrote;

I only wish his obsessiveness with being factually correct, morally right, highly opinionated, and not giving two hoots about upsetting people rubbed off on the rest of video games journalism - it might actually be interesting to follow again.

He really doesn't give two hoots does he

!

I can't resist reading more -
The Good Rev wrote;

Maybe Americans are just stupid.

^Yikes! Very silly thing to write

more:

Indeed you do. My stance is, if you're a rude ignorant cunt you can go and fuck yourself. I apologise if that wasn't clear before.

I'm done here, as I can feel my IQ falling just by being near you.

----------------------------------------
I'll give him this one:
Quote:

You come off as an overaged child

Rev's reply:

I play videogames for a living, hello.

^Agreed.

He comes off the lithium for a few pages, building up his charge meter for page 8:

Seriously, fuck you. Really. Fuck you and your mother. There is NOT ONE MISTAKE in the feature, nor a single meaningful omission,

DEL · Post by **DEL** » Fri May 01, 2009 1:46 pm

Skykid - Is that a picture of The Good Reverend himself?!?

jpj · Post by **jpj** » Fri May 01, 2009 1:48 pm

like DEL, i'm reading through and enjoying that thread a lot

i will have to stop reading your spoilers though

skykid: please don't tell me that is actually a pic of stuart