Dear Mainstream gaming, I am fed up with you

[jp]

Nobody has trouble grasping this. What people have trouble grasping is why:

1) Some people can't accept that this goes both ways (ie, while FC genuinely prefers SNES games, other people genuinely prefer modern games and aren't just sheep), and

2) Why it needs to be stated over and over and over.

Higher post count? *shrugs*

[FatCobra]

Nobody has trouble grasping this. What people have trouble grasping is why:

1) Some people can't accept that this goes both ways (ie, while FC genuinely prefers SNES games, other people genuinely prefer modern games and aren't just sheep), and

2) Why it needs to be stated over and over and over.

Higher post count? *shrugs*

I am not doing this to raise my post count. There's no post ranking system on these boards, so I'm not trying to raise my rank.

Me and jp simply are jaded old gamers who are very stubborn and resent how things have changed, or better or for worse.

I guess one of my character flaws is that I complain too much if things don't go my way. My friends like me, but sometimes I get on their nerves because I don't agree with what they say.

Plus, I really don't have all the money in the world to go out and buy every new game and system, and it really pisses me off when I buy a game or system and finding out that it is not living up to my expectations.

People can change however, I simply just need to swallow my pride and accept the fact that the old school values are gone and that my dollars speak louder than my words. I can choose not to buy Game X if I want to.

[Rob]

Me and jp simply are jaded old gamers who are very stubborn and resent how things have changed, or better or for worse.

Jaded old gamers? Aren't you both under 20?

[FatCobra]

Me and jp simply are jaded old gamers who are very stubborn and resent how things have changed, or better or for worse.

Jaded old gamers? Aren't you both under 20?

20 years is enough time to see alot of stuff change in the world of videogames. Technology does change quickly you know. We're not old by life standards, but by videogame standards, we are 8-bit veterans.

[sethsez]

As a fellow 20 year old, I'd just like to point out that I'm not quite ready for a cane yet.

[FatCobra]

As a fellow 20 year old, I'd just like to point out that I'm not quite ready for a cane yet.

Me neither, but hey, some of us miss our childhood.

You know, it's actually pretty amazing how quickly videogame technology has progress. 20 Years ago we were playing Pong and Super Mario Bros, now we have GTA and Halo! Will Holodeck technology be possible in my lifetime?

"Computer: Create Arcade full of Shmups"

[TWITCHDOCTOR]

Actually, I really don't see your point, as I'm a video game player period.
In fact, I actually like the Grand Theft Auto series, and I 've played through Halo and enjoyed it!
I'm also almost old enough to be your father...if your only 20.(well, oK, I would have been 15...but thats still possible)
Point is, yea I'm an older guy, but even though I started with PONG in 77',(dude, even Mattel Electronics Handhelds LED's) I can still appreciate the games of today. Not all of em mind you, but enough to where I still buy new shit when I can afford it.

Speaking of being able to afford it...I haven't bought a game since last Christmas!!!!!!
Financial difficulties and a classic car can whipe away a paycheck faster than parents can sell an "old console".
PLus, on top of that, my engine in my car is on its way to becoming a boat anchor.
In other words, I may have to sell off my games to build another engine!!!!!
I don't have the money to invest in this type of shit right now, so its a possibility that most, if not all my games must go.

I can at least say this. I've loved and enjoyed them ALL. My consoles are almost like "my little family".
Not only do I love them, but I 1CC most of em too!!! They for sure have gotten their "use".

My car is a priority now...I've let this sleeping dragon sit for too long.
I'll HATE to sell my games(MUCH REGRET)...but I'll be damned if some punk in a new Mustang beats me!
(Forget all my car posts...the cars sounds good, but its running like shit)

If I sell my collection for close to 10 grand, whatever?...I'm going to invest it into my car.
Its time for me to "kick ass" in other ways.
Then again, this is my second Hot-Rod" so I know what I'm doing.

More Later...

[tsunami0ne]

just get a DS and buy Kirby Canvas Curse, Meteos, Gunstar Super Heroes, Advance Wars DS, Castlevania, New Super Mario Bros, and whatever's coming out.

Mushihime's coming out on PS2 soon.

There's still plenty of great games coming out, you've just got to look for them.

[Nemo]

Dear FatCobra,

You're nothing much yourself.

Sincerely yours,

Mainstream Gaming

[Rob]

Dear Santa Claus,

Santa, please give this letter to Triangle Service. Trizeal sucks and the only reason people bought it is because it was "old school" and/or pity. Good luck with the on rails shooter.

Sarcastically Yours,
Rob

[neorichieb1971]

Twitch,

10k is alot of games

I have around 200 games and I am not sure I could muster up 10k. That works out $50 a game. Some of my arcade stuff would offset that a bit but still..

[FRO]

I agree with many of the ideas but you shouldn't deal in absolutes, FatCobra. And the SNES is really quite replacable.

"Only a sith deals in absolues."

Sorry, had to say it.

"Back when hype was almost non-existant."
What!?

Yawn...

I 2nd this. There's ALWAYS been hype around games and gaming. FatCobra - did you not read any gaming publications produced during the 80's & early 90's? You say you're an "N" fanboy - read a few old issues of Nintendo Power and you'll see hype to the "Nth" degree (sorry, pun intended). Anyway, hype always has been and always will be a part of the industry. You can't deny it, and you certainly can't stop it.

I personally think you're reading too much into it. Gaming is a hobby, not a way of life. It's like the people who get so much into black metal that they burn churches and kill people. That's when it's time to take a step back and realize that you stepped way over the line. Or like any other obsession that is taken too far and people get hurt, be it physically, financially, emotionally, whatever. You're allowing something like the mainstream gaming world to affect you in a negative emotional way. Let it go.

Remember, there was a time when shmups were "mainstream" as well. THey were big-ticket items in the NES/Genesis/PCE/SNES era and sold quite a few units (evidenced by many copies of Gradius and the like available in used game outlets. The mainstream of today's gaming climate may be different from when you and I were younger, but the fact that certain genre's of games are more popular is the same.

The point is, you're making too much a big deal out of this. As has been said, save your $$ for a new SNES and get back what you feel is essential to your collection. Play those games again and revel in their greatness, remembering the fun you had as a child. Let the emotions that surround your gaming experience be positive (not all this negative outpour), and you'll find it to be a much more fulfilling hobby.

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[sethsez]

It's like the people who get so much into black metal that they burn churches and kill people.

Gaming needs its own Varg Vikernes.

[Acid King]

For your information, I rented Midnight Club 3 and loved it so much that I ran out and bought a $50 copy. I do rent games now just to make sure. Reviews and screenshots can give a person a general idea, but the only way to make sure is to go out and rent the damn game.

and the fact that Midnight Club 3 is as mainstream as games get and has been promoted and advertised all over the place puts it at the opposite spectrum of what you've been talking about. If you rented that game, what's to stop you from renting before you buy other games since you just complained about buying games and systems that don't live up to your expections. It's not the games fault they can't live up to your expections.

I will say that I'm probably going to be buying another Xbox eventually, mainly so my roomate and I can have something to play. But apparently FC enjoys the games on his SNES more than he enjoys the stuff out today, the same way I would prefer my Saturn to everything out today. I know its an impossible concept for a lot of people to wrap their minds around, but maybe... just maybe... FC and I have different tastes from other people?

It's not impossible, it's actually easy to understand but the reasons just seem silly. If you buy a game without playing it, even when thinking you'd be interested in it, its still a gamble, especially if you're like FatCobra and don't have the money to spend 50 on a game you don't like.

[Andi]

Wizardry 7 still remains one of my favorite games because there was a great feeling of freedom and exploration while so much was still left open to the imagination.

I didn't know anyone else even knew about that game. So fantastic. It had a sense of freedom unequaled until Fallout came along.

[FatCobra]

You're all right. I am taking this stuff way too seriously. It's just that videogaming is pretty much my only hobby and if I gave it up, I don't know how to fill the empty void in my life.

I guess I resent mainstream gaming because I yearn for the older days, the gameplay styles I experienced as a kid. But those days are over and times of changed and I need to get over it. For now, I'll just wait and see what happens with the next-gen.

Another reason I resent the mainstream is that I don't have all the money in the world to buy the latest stuff. I don't like taking risks.

[jp]

Me and jp simply are jaded old gamers who are very stubborn and resent how things have changed, or better or for worse.

Jaded old gamers? Aren't you both under 20?

21, almost 22.

[FatCobra]

I'm 22 years old.

[sethsez]

Wizardry 7 still remains one of my favorite games because there was a great feeling of freedom and exploration while so much was still left open to the imagination.

I didn't know anyone else even knew about that game. So fantastic. It had a sense of freedom unequaled until Fallout came along.

As much as I want to, I'm never able to get into the Wizardry series. M&M, Ultima, Wasteland, the Gold Box games... I love 'em all. But Wizardry leaves me cold, even though I feel like I should love it.

[PaCrappa]

Wait... "hype" was once "nonexistant"? Were you alive when the NES was out?

And if your fargin' SNES means so much and holds such a magical place in your heart why did you leave it in a position to be sold by someone else? How does that work?

Lastly, in the spirit of pointless redundancy, was everyone here aware that Sapphire sucks? Just checking. So I don't have to go out and start me up a thread.

Pa

[Guest]

Dear FatCobra,

Up yours.

Love,
Mainstream Gaming

[black mariah]

Dear FatCobra,

Up yours.

Love,
Mainstream Gaming

[jp]

Dear FatCobra,

Up yours.

Love,
Mainstream Gaming

What is this? IGN? Neo-Geo.com?

[Guest]

Dear FatCobra,

Up yours.

Love,
Mainstream Gaming

What is this? IGN? Neo-Geo.com?

Considering the state of the thread as it is, and how absolutely worn-out it has gotten, I don't see the harm in a single joke reply.

[jp]

Dear FatCobra,

Up yours.

Love,
Mainstream Gaming

What is this? IGN? Neo-Geo.com?

Considering the state of the thread as it is, and how absolutely worn-out it has gotten, I don't see the harm in a single joke reply.

*sigh*

Given the current state of this forum, I think what I posted still applies.

[Thunder Force]

Considering the state of the thread as it is, and how absolutely worn-out it has gotten, I don't see the harm in a single joke reply.

Alternate "joke accounts" are not permitted here.

[Guest]

Whatever. I'll leave this name behind, any temporary joking or fun that's come of this will go away, and the forum will go back to "what are the best saturn games" and "are there any good shmups on the PS2 (i'm new here)" by tomorrow.

[jp]

and the forum will go back to "what are the best saturn games"

This is shmups.com bro, where the Saturn and its fans are frowned upon, for whatever reason.

[EddyMRA]

The real problem with gaming is it's all simulation BS, companies need to return to making arcade-style games.

That's IT!!! That is what I might be bitching about!! The old school spirit that seems to be sorely lacking today is simply called by another name!! Ah-hah!!

Simulation is boring, I play videogames to escape reality when boredom rears its ugly head.

I remember reading a post by someone on the forums for the now defunct [RAIDEN] site, by Kevin Dart, which echoes the same sentiment for modern gaming. He was the first to create a high-profile Raiden website, but had such blanket hatred towards mainstream gaming to an elitist level. I once told him that I liked DOOM and Duke Nukem 3D, and he replied with, paraphrased, "Why do you like those games? Those games are the reason why shmups are unpopular now."

He posted in reply to a moronic post about how "unrealistic" Raiden was because of the fact you have unlimited ammunition and the intricacies of the purple Plasma Lock-On Beam. His post mentioned that many modern games "are not even games at all, but are simulations. Companies these days try to make games that are more realistic than the next guy's. I'm so sick of this crap. Here's a game [Raiden] that ries to be innovative, and all you hard-core gaming geeks can do is complain about how it's not realistic. Get a life."

[roushimsx]

This is shmups.com bro, where the Saturn and its fans are frowned upon, for whatever reason.

We must visit different shmups.com sites, or you must be delusional.