Where to Buy the Ys rpg series (adol christin)

No_not_like_Quake · Post by **No_not_like_Quake** » Fri Oct 17, 2008 4:34 am

^ I think with the exception of Ys 5... though that wasn't a port to begin with, so yeah.

kozo · Post by **kozo** » Fri Oct 17, 2008 6:47 am

AFAIK, Ys V, Legend of Xanadu 2 and Popful Mail SNES are the only actual Falcom-developed console games, and they are all at least decent. Of those, only PM is a port, and even then it's very loosely based on the 98/88 version. Ys V is hit and miss for people; I personally love it as it's the biggest and most intricate of the series, and has a great orchestral soundtrack (which is odd for Falcom to do orchestra style.) Yay SNES~~

GP, every game that Falcom currently sells will work on any Windows OS from 98 through Vista. You probably can't see in the pics, but the Vista emblem says "Windows Vista/XP/ME/2000/98". Also, heads up, Origin is the most text heavy of any Ys game. It's still bearable, and minuscule compared to the standard RPG du jour, but if you've played the old Ys 1-3 games, it will be a shock.

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Fri Oct 17, 2008 12:23 pm

I'm sure I'll live. As long as I can go through the boring parts. I assume it's a prequel, or is it (yet another) retelling of the first game?

No_not_like_Quake · Post by **No_not_like_Quake** » Fri Oct 17, 2008 6:01 pm

^It takes place 700 years before the events of Ys 1.

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Sun Oct 19, 2008 4:01 am

Got this -- super fast shipping. Put a couple of hours into it. Pretty good. One dumb thing though, is that it takes the resolution from the card. So in window mode when my screen is TATE'd, I get 1200x1600, not 1600x1200. So, I had to tilt it. Not that big of a deal, actually. I will have to to play my old games that I'll bust out one of these days anyway.

ArmoredCore · Post by **ArmoredCore** » Sun Oct 19, 2008 7:40 am

just got my hands on ys complete 1 and 2 remake for pc, anyone know where i can find the english patch? thx

ZOM · Post by **ZOM** » Sun Oct 19, 2008 11:28 am

^^There you go:

Ys I Complete
http://www.mediafire.com/?5e0inemjlz8

Ys II Complete
http://www.mediafire.com/?xjyv2vkxpsg

- A thousand thanks to Nightwolve & Deuce for their wonderful work -

ArmoredCore · Post by **ArmoredCore** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 10:01 pm

ZOM wrote:^^There you go:

Ys I Complete
http://www.mediafire.com/?5e0inemjlz8

Ys II Complete
http://www.mediafire.com/?xjyv2vkxpsg

- A thousand thanks to Nightwolve & Deuce for their wonderful work -

wow thanks alot zom, much appreciated

Jon · Post by **Jon** » Wed Oct 22, 2008 9:08 pm

http://www.siliconera.com/2008/10/22/at ... h-america/

Looks like Atlus will be showing DS owning Ys fans a little love in the near future.

kozo · Post by **kozo** » Thu Oct 23, 2008 7:42 am

Jon wrote:http://www.siliconera.com/2008/10/22/at ... h-america/

Looks like Atlus will be showing DS owning Ys fans a little love in the near future.

Stay very far away from those if you want to give Ys any dignity. The Japanese version was trash.

Another non-Falcom produced mess, sadly. I predict nothing but poor reviews and misspellings of Ys.

I could be wrong though.

Also, lol @ "Books I and II". That was a stupid mistake they made when they released them here on the TG. There is no and never has been a "books" in the title of any Ys game in Japan. Totally made up and totally weird. If they're assuming each Ys game equates to one of the "Books of Ys", they'd be sorely mistaken as everything after Ys 2 has next to nothing to do with Ys 1, plus there will soon be more Ys games than books in the storyline. :/

Strider77 · Post by **Strider77** » Thu Oct 23, 2008 8:20 am

Ys 4 and 5 on the super famicom were both made by falcom. Falcom made not have published them (not sure), but I know they made them for that hardware (SF) themselves 1st.

4 to me is better on duo by hudson... but 4 on SF is cannon believe it or not.

kozo · Post by **kozo** » Thu Oct 23, 2008 8:36 am

Strider77 wrote:Ys 4 and 5 on the super famicom were both made by falcom. Falcom made not have published them (not sure), but I know they made them for that hardware (SF) themselves 1st.

4 to me is better on duo by hudson... but 4 on SF is cannon believe it or not.

No, Ys 4 was not by Falcom. There is NO Falcom-developed version of Ys IV, ever, period. It was purely a licensed title - Falcom dreamt up the plot/characters/music/ideas, and had Tonkinhouse make it for SFC, and NEC for PCE. I believe it was mentioned already, but if not, Falcom has only made Ys V, Popful Mail and Legend of Xanadu 2 for consoles (the latter of which was PCEngine, the first two SFC. The Genny version of Popful Mail was Sega.) These are also the ONLY console games EVER published by Falcom until the recent Sora No Kiseki, Zwei and Gurumin PSP ports.

ZOM · Post by **ZOM** » Thu Oct 23, 2008 2:06 pm

^^ You are perfectly correct, sir!

About the "Books of Ys" thing; remember the ending of Dawn of Ys? One could think "books" here refers to the idea of the old granny reading the adventures of adol to the kids which Hudson came up with...

kozo · Post by **kozo** » Thu Oct 23, 2008 7:29 pm

ZOM wrote:^^ You are perfectly correct, sir!

About the "Books of Ys" thing; remember the ending of Dawn of Ys? One could think "books" here refers to the idea of the old granny reading the adventures of adol to the kids which Hudson came up with...

I see what you're saying.

I still think it's pretty stupid though. I doubt Atlus has played Ys IV, and Ys IV didn't exist when they made 1 & 2 for TG-16. It's just some silly thing that some underpaid, uninterested translator came up with and for whatever reason it's stuck in the US, from the TG-16 games to the anime releases, and now the DS title.

I find the whole thing silly. I'm just going to sit back and relax, and watch the 4/10 reviews start flowing in once it hits. The DS remakes (again, not by Falcom) are just plain bad. Graphics on par with a budget 3DO game, shrill MIDI renditions of classic tunes and gimped gameplay. It will be a sad but entertaining ride to see these get maimed by the public.

Too bad we aren't getting Ys I and II Complete for PC. Now THAT is 2D gaming at it's finest.

pixeljunkie · Post by **pixeljunkie** » Thu Oct 23, 2008 8:37 pm

the DS remakes should've been amped up 2D remakes....but oh well. They do play like a web browser or cel phone game...I mean, I'll still buy them because they are Ys, but damnit.

Oath in Felghana kicks serious ass. I think Ys 4 is my fave of the series.

kozo · Post by **kozo** » Thu Oct 23, 2008 9:55 pm

pixeljunkie wrote:the DS remakes should've been amped up 2D remakes....but oh well. They do play like a web browser or cel phone game...I mean, I'll still buy them because they are Ys, but damnit.

Oath in Felghana kicks serious ass. I think Ys 4 is my fave of the series.

That's just it, we already had pixel perfect 2D hi-res remakes with Ys I and II Complete. They could have adapted that for the DS.

That's a perfect comparison - web brower/cell phone games.

No_not_like_Quake · Post by **No_not_like_Quake** » Sun Oct 26, 2008 3:06 am

I would like to get into Ys V. It's pretty for a SFC game, the music is good and it seems to play alright. Is knowing Japanese essential, or is it worth going through it regardless?

pixeljunkie · Post by **pixeljunkie** » Sun Oct 26, 2008 3:24 am

Playing Ys V first is a cardinal sin punishable by death. Play Ys 1 and 2 first [Eternal on PC or preferably the Turbo16 version on the real deal or Wii] Then, play Ys 4, Ys 6, Ys 3 then Ys Oath in Felghana....THEN go for Ys V

kozo · Post by **kozo** » Sun Oct 26, 2008 5:03 am

My version:

not pixeljunkie wrote:Playing Ys V first is a good idea, because it's the best in the series, but if you want to get a feel for the series first, play Ys 1 and 2 also [Ys I and II Complete on PC because it is pretty and can be patched into English, forget the Turbo16 version on the real deal or Wii] Then, never play Ys 4 SFC, Ys 6, Ys 3 SFC, and go for Ys 3 Genesis, Ys 4 PC Engine, Oath in Felghana, and Origin.

Strider77 · Post by **Strider77** » Sun Oct 26, 2008 5:23 am

i actually liked Ys 3 on pc cd the most.... the choppy scrolling in the background was a small price to pay for one of my favorite game soundtracks ever...

it might actually be my favorite period.... it's hard to say between the pc engine version of 3 and then the PC oath version. They both have really great versions of the soundtrack...

ArmoredCore · Post by **ArmoredCore** » Sun Oct 26, 2008 9:10 am

just got ys oath of felghana, its pure win! way better platforming so far than ark of napishtim. some dungeons are pretty easy and str8 foward tho, too bad no water cave level, that cave was really well done on ark of napishtim. i love Ys now

Jonathan Ingram · Post by **Jonathan Ingram** » Sun Oct 26, 2008 11:40 am

Play Ys 1 and 2 first [Eternal on PC or preferably the Turbo16 version on the real deal or Wii]

Why is the Turbo Duo version "preferable" exactly? Nostalgia aside, it`s inferior to Eternal Complete in every possible way. It does have a few very good Ryo Yonemitsu arrangements, but graphically it`s ugly as sin.

pixeljunkie · Post by **pixeljunkie** » Sun Oct 26, 2008 5:17 pm

you guessed it...nostalgia

Eternal is obviously superior graphically.

Ganelon · Post by **Ganelon** » Sun Oct 26, 2008 10:40 pm

Well, why is Eternal hyped up so much? I happen to like most parts from the SS Falcom Classics versions more.

kozo · Post by **kozo** » Sun Oct 26, 2008 11:12 pm

I should clarify something:

There is no Eternal Complete. Here's how it works:

Ys Eternal: Came out in 1997, not really better than the Saturn version
Ys II Eternal: 2000-ish, a huge step up from Ys Eternal
Ys I&II Complete: Brought Ys I up to Ys II Complete level of graphics and a new remixed soundtrack done in the style of the PC-8801 original.
Ys I&II Eternal Story: Lackluster but serviceable port of Complete for PS2 by DigiCube with crap MIDI music, voice overs and loading times.

Ys I&II *Complete* is the best version of the two games, bar none. It has fantastic 2D graphics that are at twice the resolution of the PCE and Saturn versions, with all the nice additions from the Saturn version like running and moving 8 directions. Also has the prettiest intros.

It is a perfect example of how 2D gaming can and should still be done in the modern gaming world, and pretty much what even got me into Falcom in the first place.

I really am not a fan of the PCE version of I and II. I think it's cheesy and slow moving.

I'd rather play the original versions (PC-88 )

No_not_like_Quake · Post by **No_not_like_Quake** » Sun Oct 26, 2008 11:35 pm

pixeljunkie wrote:Playing Ys V first is a cardinal sin punishable by death. Play Ys 1 and 2 first [Eternal on PC or preferably the Turbo16 version on the real deal or Wii] Then, play Ys 4, Ys 6, Ys 3 then Ys Oath in Felghana....THEN go for Ys V

I've played em all except Oath and Origins and, well, only the beginning of V. My pc can't handle the two former.

Strider77 · Post by **Strider77** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 2:31 am

I've played em all except Oath and Origins and, well, only the beginning of V. My pc can't handle the two former.

that's to bad... oath is quite awsome. it may be my favorite even out of the series.

Cthulhu · Post by **Cthulhu** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 4:28 am

GaijinPunch wrote:I think as a rule of thumb, Falcom has never done a console port. Am I right? I'm not talking about MSX or the other weird computers.

I thought the Eiyuu Densetsu Sora no Kiseki PSP ports were done by Falcom themselves...

kozo · Post by **kozo** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 6:04 am

Cthulhu wrote:I thought the Eiyuu Densetsu Sora no Kiseki PSP ports were done by Falcom themselves...

I wrote:...these are also the ONLY console games EVER published by Falcom until the recent Sora No Kiseki, Zwei and Gurumin PSP ports.

e_tank · Post by **e_tank** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 6:55 am

Strider77 wrote:
I've played em all except Oath and Origins and, well, only the beginning of V. My pc can't handle the two former.
that's to bad... oath is quite awesome. it may be my favorite even out of the series.

agreed, felghana is easily my favorite of the series, both in terms of gameplay and muisc. if you liked the music in ys 3 then you're in for a real treat with felghana. the arrangements are top notch, they improve upon the originals in almost every way. definitely one of my favorite game soundtracks of all time.
i haven't played origins yet but saw it wasn't well received by the person who maintains the ys series page over at hardcore gaming 101. to anyone who has played it, how does the soundtrack compare to felghana? if i were to go by the fact that it didn't even get a mention over at hg101 (when almost every other one did), i would assume it's not up to par with felghana.