Ketsui for DS?!

moozooh · Post by **moozooh** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 9:39 am

Jockel wrote:Kackstelze

That's one kickass word!

kozo · Post by **kozo** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 9:56 am

Jockel wrote:You know, in germany we have a saying like this:
"Halt doch einfach mal deine Fresse und machn Kopp zu, du olle Kackstelze."
Which roughly translates to "The One who accepts foreign opinions as well is a really wise guy"

Excellent idea.

Frederik · Post by **Frederik** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 12:34 pm

Zweihander wrote:So wait, there's a demo of the DS version of Ketsui? As in there's a demo of the demo of the full game? Oh lolz. I'm surprised they don't want $10 in microtran$action$ for that alone, if the full demo costs $60.

"Am I right, people? AM I RITE?"

henry dark wrote: the game encouraging you to take big risks by getting right up in the bosses face for more points is just like that fat bully in school who used to encourage little kids to run across the road and try to dodge incoming traffic.

Nice to hear it keeps the proximity mechanism intact. Does anybody know how the scoring compares to the PCB Ketsui? It seems like you´re able to get a constant stream of chips from the bosses sometimes, creating new scoring abilities. I know the game is not that far off, but I still wouldn´t mind having the demo right now...

Octopod · Post by **Octopod** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 12:40 pm

Zweihander wrote:So wait, there's a demo of the DS version of Ketsui? As in there's a demo of the demo of the full game? Oh lolz. I'm surprised they don't want $10 in microtran$action$ for that alone, if the full demo costs $60.

Again?

Zweihander · Post by **Zweihander** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 1:02 pm

Octopod wrote:
Zweihander wrote:So wait, there's a demo of the DS version of Ketsui? As in there's a demo of the demo of the full game? Oh lolz. I'm surprised they don't want $10 in microtran$action$ for that alone, if the full demo costs $60.

Again?

Until they fix the game by adding the rest of it, yeah.

Octopod · Post by **Octopod** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 1:09 pm

Zweihander wrote:
Octopod wrote:
Zweihander wrote:So wait, there's a demo of the DS version of Ketsui? As in there's a demo of the demo of the full game? Oh lolz. I'm surprised they don't want $10 in microtran$action$ for that alone, if the full demo costs $60.

Again?

Until they fix the game by adding the rest of it, yeah.

I dont follow. What is broken about it? It is not supose to be Ketsui. It is Ketsui DS. A different game based on the prior. I dont have my copy yet but i assume the whole game will be there when i get it so i dont understand what you want them to add.

Strider77 · Post by **Strider77** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 1:24 pm

so what is the deal with this thing... is it just a boss rush?

henry dark · Post by **henry dark** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 1:36 pm

Frederik wrote:
Zweihander wrote:So wait, there's a demo of the DS version of Ketsui? As in there's a demo of the demo of the full game? Oh lolz. I'm surprised they don't want $10 in microtran$action$ for that alone, if the full demo costs $60.
"Am I right, people? AM I RITE?"

henry dark wrote: the game encouraging you to take big risks by getting right up in the bosses face for more points is just like that fat bully in school who used to encourage little kids to run across the road and try to dodge incoming traffic.
Nice to hear it keeps the proximity mechanism intact. Does anybody know how the scoring compares to the PCB Ketsui? It seems like you´re able to get a constant stream of chips from the bosses sometimes, creating new scoring abilities. I know the game is not that far off, but I still wouldn´t mind having the demo right now...

I don't know how the scoring works in the full DS game, but in the demo it was pretty basic- get close and lock onto the boss to get 5's, further away to get 4's, 3's, 2's etc.

I think scoring in the full game must be different (closer to the PCB?), because although you could use a regular (non lock on) shot in the demo too, it was useless.

Post by **spadgy** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 2:52 pm

Octopod wrote:
Zweihander wrote:
Octopod wrote:
Again?

Until they fix the game by adding the rest of it, yeah.

I dont follow. What is broken about it? It is not supose to be Ketsui. It is Ketsui DS. A different game based on the prior. I dont have my copy yet but i assume the whole game will be there when i get it so i dont understand what you want them to add.

Let's not even start this one again, or we'll get another thread lock, and it might not temporary this time! Let's just all agree to disagree; some of us are excited like kids at a toy store: others think its a waste of money for an overpriced demo...

Honestly - it's a Pandora's box nicely sealed by the previous Thread split...

FIL · Post by **FIL** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 3:52 pm

I wonder if Darius Alpha caused this kind of backlash.

Frederik · Post by **Frederik** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 4:21 pm

Strider77 wrote:so what is the deal with this thing... is it just a boss rush?

I wonder when people will stop asking this

iatneH · Post by **iatneH** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 4:32 pm

Frederik wrote:Nice to hear it keeps the proximity mechanism intact. Does anybody know how the scoring compares to the PCB Ketsui? It seems like you´re able to get a constant stream of chips from the bosses sometimes, creating new scoring abilities. I know the game is not that far off, but I still wouldn´t mind having the demo right now...

The scoring in Ketsui DL seems much simpler than PCB. I think in DL you get "1" chips by using regular shot, and higher number chips by hitting the enemy with the central beam of the lock-on shot, and the size of the chip depends on how far away you are at that instant; in the PCB, the size of the chip at the start of a chain depends on how far away you are when you kill something with the regular shot, and then when switching to lock-on, the size of the chip stays the same no matter where you are, as long as the chain timer has not run out (after which it drops to "1" and you have to start a new chain by point-blank killing with regular shot). Oh, and chips only appear when things explode.

I don't think there is any kind of multiplier decrease for killing things in DL either.

Don't take my word for any of this (if it made sense at all), I am not a high scorer for either of these games.

Style-0 · Post by **Style-0** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 6:35 pm

... well, play-asia have it in stock now!

MX7 · Post by **MX7** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 7:00 pm

Style-0 wrote:... well, play-asia have it in stock now!

Shit, I have absolutely no money in my account

:(

Though, they haven't charged me for my pre-order yet.

Pretty annoying. I had this pre-ordered for so long, I completely forgot about it. Wonder if they'll wait til the 24th for charging me still. Just have to pray the cash I got my girlfriend to jack into my account just now makes it in in time

P_HAT · Post by **P_HAT** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 7:07 pm

Crap, i can't download the demo, and have some problems with my post (my latest order from p-a haven't arrived yet... D:), arhg...

So i must wait for dump :'(
I'm sooooo bad person

DBH87 · Post by **DBH87** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 7:29 pm

Just ordered it off Play Asia cant wait!!!!!!!!!!

MX7 · Post by **MX7** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 8:03 pm

Lolz, actually, a quick look at my account shows I actually paid for this in late May. And for a good £10 or so cheaper than it is at the mo. Phew! I can start looking forward to this coming through the door

JUX.Jaggsen · Post by **JUX.Jaggsen** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 8:10 pm

Forgive me my laziness... but is the DVD a pre-order bonus or a regular pack-in?

bcass · Post by **bcass** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 8:17 pm

Is there anywhere doing this for pre-order other than NCSX, PlayAsia, and YesAsia? NCSX want a ridiculous $85, and PlayAsia and YesAsia do not mention the DVD.

EOJ · Post by **EOJ** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 8:27 pm

bcass wrote:NCSX want a ridiculous $85, and PlayAsia and YesAsia do not mention the DVD.

Where did you see that? NCSX's page lists it for $53.90:

http://www.shopncsx.com/ketsuideath.aspx

And the DVD is bundled with all copies. So it doesn't matter where you order it from.

bcass · Post by **bcass** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 8:36 pm

EOJ wrote:Where did you see that? NCSX's page lists it for $53.90:

http://www.shopncsx.com/ketsuideath.aspx

That link doesn't work for me. When I go via the shop, I get it at $58 for the game, plus $24 for shipping (to the UK). There is no choice in shipping method, it defaults to $24.

EOJ · Post by **EOJ** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 8:38 pm

Weird. Link works fine for me. And I see how you can get hosed on the shipping - I didn't know you were in the UK. You'd be better off with Play-asia probably.

Zweihander · Post by **Zweihander** » Tue Oct 21, 2008 1:57 am

Frederik wrote:
Strider77 wrote:so what is the deal with this thing... is it just a boss rush?
I wonder when people will stop asking this

Probably when the patch the game and make it complete.

Zweihander · Post by **Zweihander** » Tue Oct 21, 2008 2:00 am

Octopod wrote:
Zweihander wrote:
Octopod wrote:
Again?

Until they fix the game by adding the rest of it, yeah.

I dont follow. What is broken about it? It is not supose to be Ketsui. It is Ketsui DS. A different game based on the prior. I dont have my copy yet but i assume the whole game will be there when i get it so i dont understand what you want them to add.

Well, it's like if they took Super Mario Bros 3, stripped it of the actual stages, and left it for dead as a mere boss-rush game. Then, of course, they'd want the retail price of a full complete game. Generally, when such a thing is done, a game is considered budgetware, and like many half-games, is priced accordingly. ($20 or under) The controversy here is charging $60 for a sampler cart of the actual game.[/b]

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Tue Oct 21, 2008 2:03 am

So wait, 4+ pages of your boring rants were removed and now you're back at it?

Zweihander · Post by **Zweihander** » Tue Oct 21, 2008 3:19 am

Rob wrote:So wait, 4+ pages of your boring rants were removed and now you're back at it?

Well, when the moderator is a Cave fanboy who goes on the defensive and locks out a bit of conversation just because it doesn't sit well with his Cave-fanboyism... Yeah, sorta.

As said, I'll buy this game when it's released in its full and honest form.

Ed Oscuro · Post by **Ed Oscuro** » Tue Oct 21, 2008 3:37 am

Rob wrote:So wait, 4+ pages of your boring rants were removed and now you're back at it?

Coincidentally, I was about to post "32 pages of 'Ketsui for DS?'"

Zweihander · Post by **Zweihander** » Tue Oct 21, 2008 3:46 am

Ed Oscuro wrote:
Rob wrote:So wait, 4+ pages of your boring rants were removed and now you're back at it?
Coincidentally, I was about to post "32 pages of 'Ketsui for DS?'"

If there's this much hype surrounding a $60 demo, imagine the celebration when the full game is released on the 360 for $70...

GrimoreLibrarian · Post by **GrimoreLibrarian** » Tue Oct 21, 2008 3:51 am

Zweihander wrote:
Ed Oscuro wrote:
Rob wrote:So wait, 4+ pages of your boring rants were removed and now you're back at it?
Coincidentally, I was about to post "32 pages of 'Ketsui for DS?'"

If there's this much hype surrounding a $60 demo, imagine the celebration when the full game is released on the 360 for $70...

What confuses me a bit is that you're saying it's $60. DS games are $30, unless you're talking about importing it, right?

Zweihander · Post by **Zweihander** » Tue Oct 21, 2008 3:54 am

GrimoreLibrarian wrote:
Zweihander wrote:
Ed Oscuro wrote: Coincidentally, I was about to post "32 pages of 'Ketsui for DS?'"

If there's this much hype surrounding a $60 demo, imagine the celebration when the full game is released on the 360 for $70...
What confuses me a bit is that you're saying it's $60. DS games are $30, unless you're talking about importing it, right?

The game won't be released in the US. Th usual price for Japanese DS games is $50+. Importing is the only option.

...for chumps. I've got it on my R4 already, but I've been too busy playing Radiant Silvergun to care. (finally bought the game last week)