This year's Assassin Creed??....

[dave4shmups]

http://www.gamerankings.com/itemrankings/itemsearch.asp

I was expecting higher percentages then that! Looks like the year's biggest game let down so far. And our store has more pre-orders for it then we did for Madden '09!

[Ceph]

more pre-orders for it then we did for Madden '09!

People who preorder Madden should be summarily executed. The world would become a better place.
...Well, at least the world of video games would.

[captpain]

I can't wait for Halo 9 and Madden 2024.

[sven666]

I can't wait for Halo 9 and Madden 2024.

oh yeah? i hear madden 2026 is gonna feature a lifesize zombie-madden slapping you across the face thru 3D-O vision in 25900000000P resolution.. cant wait to get my hands on it!

[jpj]

err dave, that link just brings up an empty search page for me

People who preorder Madden should be summary executed.

nazi

[benstylus]

more pre-orders for it then we did for Madden '09!

People who preorder ANYTHING should be summarily executed. The world would become a better place.
...Well, at least the world of video games would.

fixed.

[Vexorg]

I'm going to take a wild stab at this and guess he's talking about The Force Unleashed. I haven't paid any attention to the game at all, and can probably just safely pass on it sight unseen. The whole Star Wars franchise tends to be one of those things that you can sell ridiculous amounts of no madder how crummy it is.

[The Coop]

more pre-orders for it then we did for Madden '09!

People who preorder ANYTHING should be summarily executed. The world would become a better place.
...Well, at least the world of video games would.

fixed.

Even those who preorder on-line?

Not all of us have the ability to use credit cards on-line, making ordering that way impossible. And since some games get painfully few copies in (like say, Metal Slug Anthology), putting down money is damn near the only way to be sure you get one when you live in BFE like I do. It also helps to be on good terms with the people who work at the store you preorder at.

[dave4shmups]

err dave, that link just brings up an empty search page for me

People who preorder Madden should be summary executed.

nazi

Search for Force Unleashed on that page. The average rating for both the 360 and PS3 ports is only 75%.

GameSpot's review:

http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/action/star ... eview.html

IGN's review:

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/910/910000p1.html

[subcons]

After playing the demo, it felt like about a 75% game. It's got some cool stuff going on, but it's just a typical, unpolished game selling on the laurels of the Star Wars franchise.

Assassin's Creed looked so promising from first time everyone got a glimpse at it. Shame it ended up being fairly uninteresting and majorly flawed. The game play was just so mind numbingly boring after a short while.

I'd say AC was a bigger let down on the whole than this installment of Star Wars. Everyone is just so jaded by the franchise any more that it's expected that anything to come out of it is going to be mediocre at best.

[RackGaki]

Even those who preorder on-line?

Not all of us have the ability to use credit cards on-line, making ordering that way impossible. And since some games get painfully few copies in (like say, Metal Slug Anthology), putting down money is damn near the only way to be sure you get one when you live in BFE like I do. It also helps to be on good terms with the people who work at the store you preorder at.

Some people don't realize why we preorder some games...

Preordering ensures the game you want will be available, especially if you are a fan of shoot 'em ups, 2D fighters and anything without polygons in general. My local Gamestop will order 3 copies of a niche game if I preorder 1 - otherwise, they might be luck to get a single copy in at all.

I had Radio Allergy preordered for the Nintendo Gamecube for months, and it still got canceled. Only now is it finally coming out for the Wii.

Games like Madden or Need for Speed are a dime a dozen. Why preorder when the game will be half price within a few weeks, and available everywhere to begin with?

[benstylus]

People who preorder ANYTHING should be summarily executed. The world would become a better place.
...Well, at least the world of video games would.

fixed.

Even those who preorder on-line?

Not all of us have the ability to use credit cards on-line, making ordering that way impossible. And since some games get painfully few copies in (like say, Metal Slug Anthology), putting down money is damn near the only way to be sure you get one when you live in BFE like I do. It also helps to be on good terms with the people who work at the store you preorder at.

it was a broad generalization, of course, and really more about how hard the industry tries to push preorders. I understand why many people do preorder - because in the current system, without the preorder you're probably SOL on a low print run game. But that's the crux of the problem right there - you shouldn't HAVE to preorder something just to make sure your store gets a copy or two. Games should not be limited to niche status by terminally small print runs.

This problem is that hopefully will be done away with as the market makes the inevitable shift towards digital distribution. Then, word of mouth can really make a difference, and a game that would have gotten a 10,000 copy print run can have as many copies as people are willing to buy and download.

Of course that leads to the next problem - how to buy a digital download game when the publisher stops selling it...

[kengou]

I don't know what you guys are talking about, but I loved Assassin's Creed. Maybe the PC version is just vastly superior? That's the one I've played (multiple times through).

Force Unleashed, though, had hopes for it, but after trying the demo I lost enthusiasm. Nothing will top the Jedi Knight series in terms of Star Wars games, and the gameplay in Force Unleashed just seemed kind of shallow.

[Bootaaay]

I don't know what you guys are talking about, but I loved Assassin's Creed. Maybe the PC version is just vastly superior? That's the one I've played (multiple times through).

The PC version had about 5 more types of activities to do, but for the most part it's the same as the console versions. I personally enjoyed the game, combat was generally enjoyable and climbing around these ancient cities was breathtaking and controlled suprisingly well. My main problem with the game is that the actual assaination missions are pretty poor - I personally can only remember about 2 of the missions, because for the most part they were just that unmemorable.

[ReKleSS]

Here (Australia), pre ordering actually makes some sense - last time I did it at EB, you put $10 down and get $10 off the price (actual $10 discount, not just the deposit being removed). But then prices here are too damn high anyway.

[Lordstar]

i was really excited about madden until i found out it was not a football comentator sim. gawd playing american football sucks. I want a screen so I can draw tits and dicks on TV.

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_q ... type=&aq=f

the man sure loves penis!

[dave4shmups]

fixed.

Even those who preorder on-line?

Not all of us have the ability to use credit cards on-line, making ordering that way impossible. And since some games get painfully few copies in (like say, Metal Slug Anthology), putting down money is damn near the only way to be sure you get one when you live in BFE like I do. It also helps to be on good terms with the people who work at the store you preorder at.

it was a broad generalization, of course, and really more about how hard the industry tries to push preorders. I understand why many people do preorder - because in the current system, without the preorder you're probably SOL on a low print run game. But that's the crux of the problem right there - you shouldn't HAVE to preorder something just to make sure your store gets a copy or two. Games should not be limited to niche status by terminally small print runs.

This problem is that hopefully will be done away with as the market makes the inevitable shift towards digital distribution. Then, word of mouth can really make a difference, and a game that would have gotten a 10,000 copy print run can have as many copies as people are willing to buy and download.

Of course that leads to the next problem - how to buy a digital download game when the publisher stops selling it...

"terminally small print runs"?? Games today are mass produced at rates not seen when I was all younger and playing NES games. Discs, by nature, are much easier to press and mass produce, so most games, unless it's something like Shiki 3, have huge print runs.

When is Radio Allergy coming out for the Wii? I Googled it and couldn't find a North American release date for it-is it JP only?

IGN actually gave the Wii port a 7.8; evidently the developer nailed the Wii controls, although they said it looks like one of the Rogue Squadron games from 7 years ago.

[The Coop]

Even those who preorder on-line?

Not all of us have the ability to use credit cards on-line, making ordering that way impossible. And since some games get painfully few copies in (like say, Metal Slug Anthology), putting down money is damn near the only way to be sure you get one when you live in BFE like I do. It also helps to be on good terms with the people who work at the store you preorder at.

it was a broad generalization, of course, and really more about how hard the industry tries to push preorders. I understand why many people do preorder - because in the current system, without the preorder you're probably SOL on a low print run game. But that's the crux of the problem right there - you shouldn't HAVE to preorder something just to make sure your store gets a copy or two. Games should not be limited to niche status by terminally small print runs.

This problem is that hopefully will be done away with as the market makes the inevitable shift towards digital distribution. Then, word of mouth can really make a difference, and a game that would have gotten a 10,000 copy print run can have as many copies as people are willing to buy and download.

Of course that leads to the next problem - how to buy a digital download game when the publisher stops selling it...

"terminally small print runs"?? Games today are mass produced at rates not seen when I was all younger and playing NES games. Discs, by nature, are much easier to press and mass produce, so most games, unless it's something like Shiki 3, have huge print runs.

Bingo. Taito Legends 2 for the PS2 didn't get much of a run compared to many other games (the PC version was seen even less), and neither have many of the SNK compilation packs. You see maybe 1-4 copies in a store, and then it's gone. Without the ability to preorder, you're going to have a hell of a time getting games like that in stores.

It's not the Halo 3s that need preorders, it's the Raiden 3s.

[Dremark]

When is Radio Allergy coming out for the Wii? I Googled it and couldn't find a North American release date for it-is it JP only?

Unless i'm mistaken it's part of the "Ultimate Shooting Collection" which is coming out next week in the US.

[RackGaki]

When is Radio Allergy coming out for the Wii? I Googled it and couldn't find a North American release date for it-is it JP only?

Unless i'm mistaken it's part of the "Ultimate Shooting Collection" which is coming out next week in the US.

Thanks for letting 'em know. I've been looking forward to this release for a while. I get two other Milestone classics as a bonus.

[Ed Oscuro]

Force Unleashed fails pretty hard to make good on its promise

Left 4 Dead (despite the l337-speak title) and some other stuff (Far Cry 2?) is what I'll get. Probably going to stick to Myst Online (heh) and try to find some other older stuff that I've sat out for price reasons (like Bioshock, still don't have that).

[dave4shmups]

Force Unleashed fails pretty hard to make good on its promise

Left 4 Dead (despite the l337-speak title) and some other stuff (Far Cry 2?) is what I'll get. Probably going to stick to Myst Online (heh) and try to find some other older stuff that I've sat out for price reasons (like Bioshock, still don't have that).

Yeah, there will be no shortage of options this fall and holiday season for those with next-gen systems (or even the DS, I picked up Dragon Quest IV, and guide, today! ). I forget what the additions are to Bioshock in the PS3 port.

Well, I'm pretty unimpressed with Lucasarts as developers. I mean, how much more talent and source material does a company really need then what they've got? And yet most of the Star Wars games that I've liked were developed by another company-JVC did Super Star Wars US port, and Bioware did KOTOR.

That's GREAT news about the Ultimate Shooting Collection-I just hope there aren't problems with Radio Allergy like there were on the Cube-or am I thinking of another Milestone game? I also hope the collection is compatible with the classic controller.

[BulletMagnet]

I just hope there aren't problems with Radio Allergy like there were on the Cube-or am I thinking of another Milestone game?

Offhand I don't recall hearing about problems with GC ports of Milestone's stuff...Chaos Field and Karous didn't save high scores on the DC and Radirgy apparently had loads of slowdown on the PS2, but those are the only issues I can recall off the top of my head. IIRC it was said that none of the extra modes found in the GC ports of the games will be on the Wii, but I might be off.

[MathU]

There was only one extra mode in the Gamecube port, and it's not in the collection. They're all bare-bones ports. If they're good ports, that'll be enough for me. $30 is a steal for two games never before released in English.