The WORST Shooter you have ever played...

Necronopticous · Post by **Necronopticous** » Tue Aug 19, 2008 4:33 pm

ESPgaluda scoring system is a failure? It's like a more accessible Futari. I'd go so far as to say it's one of the most successful and perfectly executed scoring systems in Cave's repertoire.

The NES port of 1942 is the worst shooter I've ever played, personally.

escadrille · Post by **escadrille** » Tue Aug 19, 2008 4:40 pm

That people are talking about Cave and Psikyo games in this thread is absurd.

Check out the bottom half of Rob's 91-95 arcade countdown and get back to me about how Strikers 1945 or ESPgaluda are the "worst games you've ever played."

jonny5 · Post by **jonny5** » Tue Aug 19, 2008 4:46 pm

once again...title states 'worst game'....not the game you dislike the most

clp · Post by **clp** » Tue Aug 19, 2008 5:03 pm

elfhentaifan wrote:the score system is one big failure, it looks boring to me, the atmosphere doesnt suit me aswell, and espare wasnt better

lolwut? how is it a failure? and it LOOKS boring? is this implying you havent actually played it to any great extent .

elfhentaifan · Post by **elfhentaifan** » Tue Aug 19, 2008 5:15 pm

sure i played it. I forced myself to play it for more than 1 credit, but it just got worse instead of more exciting.
It looked interesting at first and had some nice bullet patterns, but as soon as i played it... that's not my game.

And it's not because i suck at it.

In a comparison i always sucked at doj and kept playing this for a half year, without any proper imagination, what was going on there.
I love it.

But even Espgaluda 2 (which i admittably played for only 1 credir) didnt change that impression.

jonny5 · Post by **jonny5** » Tue Aug 19, 2008 5:16 pm

elfhentaifan wrote:the score system is one big failure, it looks boring to me, the atmosphere doesnt suit me aswell, and espare wasnt better

i know you aint talking smack about esprade.....

and yes esprade was better.....

and espgaluda is an awesome game....me thinks you should look less and play more

jaycm1 · Post by **jaycm1** » Tue Aug 19, 2008 5:47 pm

for me it's prehistoric isle 2,it took me ages to save up for a conversion on my aes and its erh crap

retre · Post by **retre** » Tue Aug 19, 2008 8:54 pm

escadrille wrote:That people are talking about Cave and Psikyo games in this thread is absurd.

Amen to that.

Kiken · Post by **Kiken** » Tue Aug 19, 2008 8:58 pm

escadrille wrote:That people are talking about Cave and Psikyo games in this thread is absurd.

Unless they're talking about Sol Divide, in which case, it's perfectly acceptable.

D · Post by D » Tue Aug 19, 2008 9:02 pm

jonny5 wrote:once again...title states 'worst game'....not the game you dislike the most

If I was an asshole I would quote that and put it in my sig, but I'm one of the good guys

captpain · Post by **captpain** » Tue Aug 19, 2008 10:36 pm

I think Silkworm on the NES is a pretty terrible game, but that might just be me. It's certainly not the worst... though it's one of the worst that I own/have played for more than 30 seconds.

gennss · Post by **gennss** » Wed Aug 20, 2008 1:37 am

D wrote:
jonny5 wrote:once again...title states 'worst game'....not the game you dislike the most

How else do you define a bad game if not by the things you dislike?

jonny5 · Post by **jonny5** » Wed Aug 20, 2008 1:46 am

i think to label a game 'bad' there has to be some broadly agreed upon flaws that make the game bad.....

disliking a game doesnt make it bad.....its just not your thing.....

id say if more than 75% of players think it is bad, something is wrong with the game.....any less and i think it comes down to preference

or as RHE would say 'we all just dont get it!'

gennss · Post by **gennss** » Wed Aug 20, 2008 1:53 am

jonny5 wrote:i think to label a game 'bad' there has to be some broadly agreed upon flaws that make the game bad.....

disliking a game doesnt make it bad.....its just not your thing.....

id say if more than 75% of players think it is bad, something is wrong with the game.....any less and i think it comes down to preference

or as RHE would say 'we all just dont get it!'

well the majority of fundamentally flawed games brought up thus far i've never played... sooo worst i've played is still mars matrix. has more flaws than the rest.

Whats wrong with ghost pilots? I played it in the arcade a few years back, seemed cool enough.

jonny5 · Post by **jonny5** » Wed Aug 20, 2008 1:57 am

ya....i think i need to go back and replay it too....cuz i dont remember it being that bad....

ohhh....but its a hori....eeeeeewwww

i generally dislike most horis other than a very small few

escadrille · Post by **escadrille** » Wed Aug 20, 2008 3:26 am

Kiken wrote:
escadrille wrote:That people are talking about Cave and Psikyo games in this thread is absurd.
Unless they're talking about Sol Divide, in which case, it's perfectly acceptable.

Ok, you have me there.

PepsimanVsJoe · Post by **PepsimanVsJoe** » Wed Aug 20, 2008 4:51 am

Anyway for worst game I'd have to go with..um..shit..

I dunno..these weird doujin shmups I've been playing. Basically you're some naked woman(woot) but it's all disturbing and grotesque cause you're in like the devil's asshole or something and 99% of the projectiles are tiny worms which are a bitch in terms of hit detection.

There's like 20 of these games. It's ridiculous. And now I can't think about breasts anymore because I keep thinking of them being attached to demons and stuff.

Seriously folks I'm talking about a game that kills a man's interest in breasts! How is that not the worst game ever?

FRO · Post by **FRO** » Wed Aug 20, 2008 1:06 pm

Kiken wrote:
escadrille wrote:That people are talking about Cave and Psikyo games in this thread is absurd.
Unless they're talking about Sol Divide, in which case, it's perfectly acceptable.

QFT!

gennss · Post by **gennss** » Wed Aug 20, 2008 1:46 pm

Pepsiman... that was absolutely awesome.. now i can't read this thread at work, for fear of getting caught laugh my ass off. (and falling off the chair)

Afterbirth · Post by **Afterbirth** » Wed Aug 20, 2008 3:17 pm

Lazer-Force on the C64 - Sorry Gavin.

(that said you did produce my favorite C64 Wonderboy clone - the Equalizer).

The Sheep · Post by **The Sheep** » Wed Aug 20, 2008 3:18 pm

Stagger I (Afega)

Afterbirth · Post by **Afterbirth** » Wed Aug 20, 2008 3:19 pm

If we're talking about new shumps then 13 Stag was pretty grim although it must be said that Taito didn't have produce some arcade shit during the 80's.

lgb · Post by **lgb** » Wed Aug 20, 2008 3:20 pm

jonny5 wrote:i think to label a game 'bad' there has to be some broadly agreed upon flaws that make the game bad.....

disliking a game doesnt make it bad.....its just not your thing.....

id say if more than 75% of players think it is bad, something is wrong with the game.....any less and i think it comes down to preference

or as RHE would say 'we all just dont get it!'

So what, we just list the games that all have flaws? Maybe, but a better name for such a thread would be called "The worst shooters in the world".
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Giga Wing, Vasara and the Touhou Project games (well, the shooters anyway). And it's probably because of the pacing.

GG, Vasara, and thp are like "slow" games (to me anyway), and they all have some sort of ridiculous benefit of pointblanking things constantly. Yet everytime I do such pointblanking I always get hit and begin a downward trajectory to doom. Either I need to figure out how to fix up this pacing, or I need to stay away from these games. And I would hate to do the latter.

Then again it may just be this very pacing that's part of the learning process, in exchange for that "slowness".

Kiken · Post by **Kiken** » Wed Aug 20, 2008 3:49 pm

Afterbirth wrote:If we're talking about new shumps then 13 Stag was pretty grim although it must be said that Taito didn't have produce some arcade shit during the 80's.

XII (Twelve) Stag was created by Triangle Service. Taito merely published the game.

lgb · Post by **lgb** » Wed Aug 20, 2008 3:51 pm

Afterbirth wrote:If we're talking about new shumps then 13 Stag was pretty grim although it must be said that Taito didn't have produce some arcade shit during the 80's.

iirc, didn't Taito start Darius during the '80s?

jonny5 · Post by **jonny5** » Wed Aug 20, 2008 4:38 pm

PepsimanVsJoe wrote:Anyway for worst game I'd have to go with..um..shit..

I dunno..these weird doujin shmups I've been playing. Basically you're some naked woman(woot) but it's all disturbing and grotesque cause you're in like the devil's asshole or something and 99% of the projectiles are tiny worms which are a bitch in terms of hit detection.

There's like 20 of these games. It's ridiculous. And now I can't think about breasts anymore because I keep thinking of them being attached to demons and stuff.

Seriously folks I'm talking about a game that kills a man's interest in breasts! How is that not the worst game ever?

i know the game you are talking about.....cant remember the name for the life of me tho....hell something, ya?

it is a weird one.....and glitchy....

Afterbirth · Post by **Afterbirth** » Wed Aug 20, 2008 9:14 pm

LGB wrote:
Afterbirth wrote:If we're talking about new shumps then 13 Stag was pretty grim although it must be said that Taito didn't have produce some arcade shit during the 80's.
iirc, didn't Taito start Darius during the '80s?

Yeah, they did. They produced loads of fantastic games, but LOTS of poor shmups (as well as some Great ones).
During the 80's and 90's they were wildly inconsistent compared to the likes of Namco, Irem, Capcom, and Konami.

Mainly in the gameplay and graphics departments.

Kiken wrote:
Afterbirth wrote:If we're talking about new shumps then 13 Stag was pretty grim although it must be said that Taito didn't have produce some arcade shit during the 80's.
XII (Twelve) Stag was created by Triangle Service. Taito merely published the game.

Yeah, sorry - my bad. I didn't bother to check my PS2 box.

ROBOTRON · Post by **ROBOTRON** » Wed Aug 20, 2008 9:50 pm

DEEP BLUE I keep tellin' u guys!

gs68 · Post by **gs68** » Thu Aug 21, 2008 8:14 am

Anything on Action 52. Both versions.

SockPuppetHyren · Post by **SockPuppetHyren** » Thu Aug 21, 2008 12:48 pm

gennss wrote:
D wrote:
jonny5 wrote:once again...title states 'worst game'....not the game you dislike the most

How else do you define a bad game if not by the things you dislike?

This.

On Topic: Chaos Field. Sure, I started enjoying it...after about 5 months of despising and not playing it. Even in spite of this, I'm still pretty interested in playing Milestones other offerings...

I wasn't completely fond a Xevious either.