Yu Suzuki is no longer at Sega

Strider77 · Post by **Strider77** » Tue Aug 12, 2008 9:10 pm

It is an awesome game.....

jp · Post by jp » Tue Aug 12, 2008 9:34 pm

Jonathan Ingram wrote:
jp wrote:
Jonathan Ingram wrote: Toshihiro Nagoshi is the only one that actually matters
You... are high.

I would say the creators of Shining Force, Sonic the Hedgehog, NiGHTS, Shenmue, Virtua Fighter, and Panzer Dragoon would be a little* bit higher on the list than the guy responsible for fucking Super Monkey Ball.

And by "a little" I mean a fucking lot.
Um.... no. To those who actually pay attention to the industry Toshihiro Nagoshi is more known for:

...than a fucking Monkey Ball.

I reiterate:

Are you high?

Nothing you just posted a picture of should even be said in the same breath as classic Shining Force, classic Sonic the Hedgehog, Space Harrier, Outrun, Panzer Dragoon, Phantasy Star, etc.

For those that actually grew up playing Sega consoles, what you're trying to say is laughable.

Dale · Post by **Dale** » Tue Aug 12, 2008 9:51 pm

jp wrote:
Jonathan Ingram wrote:
jp wrote: You... are high.

I would say the creators of Shining Force, Sonic the Hedgehog, NiGHTS, Shenmue, Virtua Fighter, and Panzer Dragoon would be a little* bit higher on the list than the guy responsible for fucking Super Monkey Ball.

And by "a little" I mean a fucking lot.
Um.... no. To those who actually pay attention to the industry Toshihiro Nagoshi is more known for:

...than a fucking Monkey Ball.

I reiterate:

Are you high?

Nothing you just posted a picture of should even be said in the same breath as classic Shining Force, classic Sonic the Hedgehog, Space Harrier, Outrun, Panzer Dragoon, Phantasy Star, etc.

For those that actually grew up playing Sega consoles, what you're trying to say is laughable.

Because we all know that a new game with no nostalgic biased attached to it could never be considered as good as games we played 10+ years ago.

Seriously why are some people so set in their ways? Why can't these games be considered as good? If he and many others thinks that their as good then there must be something too them, I've heard much love for those franchises throughout the internet(Not on Gamefaqs).

Strider77 pointed out some awesome recent Sega games but you would all rather talk about how bad the new Sonic games suck.

Strider77 · Post by **Strider77** » Tue Aug 12, 2008 9:54 pm

you are taking to much of a high ground there pal...

I grew up on sega. I got my grandma to buy me a master system b/c I saw the sega logo on it through the display glass at toys R us. I knew that logo b/c it was on games I liked in the arcade near my house (AB, OR, shinobi, altered beast ect).

I've been with them ever since. Now Yakuza is a personal taste thing and I'll let you have that but so is shen mue and the shining force games.

Now F-zero was a GREAT game. Looked fantastic and was tough as nails.

I guess it is either the nostalgia bug or something. Sega doesn't pump them out like the golden days but who does anymore. They have fallen from there old reputation but they can still most deffinately pump out a great game. I have gotten something from them each year or close to it that I enjoy.

now to each there own.. we all like different games and somethings aren't another cup of tea. Still to deny quality in game even though it doesn't fit your tastes is a very common trait on forums these days. I don't really enjoy JRPGs like i use to but I can clearly see what is good and not.

jpj · Post by **jpj** » Tue Aug 12, 2008 9:59 pm

i thought super monkey ball was bitchin'

you ever seen the cab with the banana analog joystick?

no offense jp, but maybe you should sell your whole collection and look into buying a time machine?

Strider77 · Post by **Strider77** » Tue Aug 12, 2008 10:02 pm

agreed... really how can you NOT love outrun 2 if anything else, other than it's on an "american" console, lord forbid. actually I forgot it got a ok port on PS2 also. after burner climax.... come on.

Lordstar · Post by **Lordstar** » Tue Aug 12, 2008 10:08 pm

i still would love a home port of burner climax.

Zebra Airforce · Post by **Zebra Airforce** » Tue Aug 12, 2008 10:17 pm

Super Monkey Ball is one of Sega's best games.

neorichieb1971 · Post by **neorichieb1971** » Tue Aug 12, 2008 10:32 pm

Sorry forgot outrun 2 and Fzero. I never owned an Xbox so that one sort of slipped by me. Fzero was good until the tracks became virtually memory tests just to stay on.

Diabollokus · Post by **Diabollokus** » Tue Aug 12, 2008 10:41 pm

VF 5 is an excellent game!

okay 4 had better training and practice facilities but 5 is still a very solid fighter and the top 3D fighter of this gen. Can't see why you wouldn't like it..........

JoshF · Post by **JoshF** » Tue Aug 12, 2008 10:52 pm

Yu Suzuki is great, but his work is also overrated. I may elaborate after the low blood-sugar.

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Tue Aug 12, 2008 11:08 pm

Yakuza is awesomer than any old Sega except Super Shinobi 1&2.

9-9-08

Neon · Post by **Neon** » Tue Aug 12, 2008 11:20 pm

F Zero GX, the Monkey Ballz, Outrun 2, and the latest VF's are better than any of the old Sega stuff.

Sega may be in a golden age actually

F Zero and the Monkey Balls are so fucking impossible though, and FZero has yet to be ported to a decent consoul

Diabollokus · Post by **Diabollokus** » Tue Aug 12, 2008 11:30 pm

I'm still on the fence about Yakuza, haven't played it but I need a shenmue substitute.

spongdangly · Post by **spongdangly** » Tue Aug 12, 2008 11:32 pm

Came across this. Apparently he's still at Sega.

Strider77 · Post by **Strider77** » Wed Aug 13, 2008 12:02 am

i still would love a home port of burner climax.

second that......

on sega's racers and any racer worth it's salt, track memorization is always needed or helps DRAMATICALLY near the last 25 percent.

Initial D has required alot of play on the higher up rivals for me. Repetition ect.

I'm still on the fence about Yakuza, haven't played it but I need a shenmue substitute.

it is very much that...

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Wed Aug 13, 2008 5:42 am

Diabollokus wrote:I'm still on the fence about Yakuza, haven't played it but I need a shenmue substitute.

If you listen to other people (IE, the ones that say it's anything like Shenmue) you probably won't like it.... since it plays nothing like Shenmue, has a moderate at best story, and drab characters. If you play it cold, it's probably not that bad of a game.

Strider77 · Post by **Strider77** » Wed Aug 13, 2008 5:57 am

I thought it was a lot like shen mue... I means it's NOT a carbon copy but it's the closest to that kind of game I've encountered.

It's either this or nothing..... your never gonna see shen mue 3 unfortunately.

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Wed Aug 13, 2008 8:02 am

It's like Shenmue with a less annoying main character, more fighting and a smaller, less detailed area to explore.

Skykid · Post by **Skykid** » Wed Aug 13, 2008 8:46 am

Diabollokus wrote:I'm still on the fence about Yakuza, haven't played it but I need a shenmue substitute.

I'm exactly the same - which version of Yakuza to get - US?

JoshF · Post by **JoshF** » Sun Aug 17, 2008 12:12 am

Hey Hot Rod is better than Out Run.

Nuke · Post by **Nuke** » Sun Aug 17, 2008 4:14 am

JoshF wrote:Hey Hot Rod is better than Out Run.

Street Rod beats both of 'em!

Ed Oscuro · Post by **Ed Oscuro** » Sun Aug 17, 2008 4:23 am

A-Rawd?

jonny5 · Post by **jonny5** » Sun Aug 17, 2008 4:42 am

this f-zero GX you guys are talking about.....thats the arcade one with the hydraulics, right?

didnt realize that was a sega title

cuz they had that at the arcade here, before it closed down recently.....

i remember i went in and saw it and was like what the fuck....a new game....everything in that place was medieval.....newest shit they had was third strike.....

awesome game..super fun.....highly recommend wearing the seatbelt......first time i played it i fell out....lolz

sega ftw!!

they should make a re-make of afterburner 2.....prolly one of my fav sega titles ever!!!

the new one seems to flashy for me

fuck.... just the amount of money i pumped into that one back in the day would justify it.....

JoshF · Post by **JoshF** » Sun Aug 17, 2008 4:48 am

Street Rod beats both of 'em!

Propose your reasoning so I can bleed it.

Nuke · Post by **Nuke** » Sun Aug 17, 2008 5:01 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnPJU8ERC-I
nuff said.

JoshF · Post by **JoshF** » Sun Aug 17, 2008 5:26 am

WTF play as Booji Boy?

Scaler/psuedo-3D racing games are flip books. Twists and waves. Hot Rod makes up for lack of realism by being a good game and actually is more scenic. Better designed course with all kinds of crazy turns and shortcuts and hazards, nice power-system, 80s Sega music, ect..

Neon · Post by **Neon** » Mon Aug 18, 2008 8:31 am

they should make a re-make of afterburner 2.....prolly one of my fav sega titles ever!!!

this is one of the few saturn games i've sold. justify ab2's existence please

320x240 · Post by **320x240** » Mon Aug 18, 2008 10:01 am

As far as I'm concerned Sega has been in a slump since Flicky and Tricycle-san.

Post by **Shatterhand** » Mon Aug 18, 2008 2:56 pm

I have Outrun 2006 Coast2Coast on the PS2 and I consider it one of the best arcade racing game ever.

I've never played F-Zero GX, but I am a big fan of F-Zero X on the N64, and judging by the videos, GX looks to be AWESOME, just the kind of game I would love.

Sega doesn't pump them out like the golden days but who does anymore.

Konami ?