Shmups.com is raping my PC...

theevilfunkster · Post by **theevilfunkster** » Thu Aug 14, 2008 12:43 pm

OK, so I have a really shitty PC but it runs all but the most complicated of sites fine, so why does a little forum like this chug along so slowly? As I type this, shmups is taking up all of my CPU, it's the only forum which does it

worstplayer · Post by **worstplayer** » Thu Aug 14, 2008 1:02 pm

Transparent backgrounds i guess.

kernow · Post by **kernow** » Thu Aug 14, 2008 1:06 pm

? What kind of spec? , its fine on my 600MHz laptop.

I guess if anything scrolling is a little slow.

theevilfunkster · Post by **theevilfunkster** » Thu Aug 14, 2008 1:17 pm

1.6gb P4 256Mb RAM. Works fine on IE, like ass on Firefox.

MR_Soren · Post by **MR_Soren** » Thu Aug 14, 2008 1:40 pm

I've noticed that this forum is unusually slow on my home computer as well. Fortunately, I do most of my posting at work.

Frederik · Post by **Frederik** » Thu Aug 14, 2008 1:41 pm

theevilfunkster wrote:1.6gb P4 256Mb RAM. Works fine on IE, like ass on Firefox.

Do use use Firefox 2? I remember reading somewhere that it sometimes lead to memory issues, and Firefox 3 solves that. It has a lot of new neat features anyways, so you might wanna check that one out.

theevilfunkster · Post by **theevilfunkster** » Thu Aug 14, 2008 1:57 pm

I am using Firefox 3, Guess I'll just have to use IE for shmups for now.

Post by **Shatterhand** » Thu Aug 14, 2008 2:00 pm

FrederikJurk wrote:
theevilfunkster wrote:1.6gb P4 256Mb RAM. Works fine on IE, like ass on Firefox.
Do use use Firefox 2? I remember reading somewhere that it sometimes lead to memory issues, and Firefox 3 solves that. It has a lot of new neat features anyways, so you might wanna check that one out.

It indeed had memory issues. Leave it on for 18 hours doing nothing ,and then get back and try to use your computer. It's useless, Firefox will have eaten ALL memory, all you can do is reboot the machine.

It seems to be fixed now with 3 indeed.

I miss the times when Opera was billed as the "lightest browser ever". Every browser now is too heavy on CPU resources.

D · Post by D » Thu Aug 14, 2008 2:07 pm

shmups is pretty fast compared to other forums. One of the fastest.
Shoryuken takes the cake, that forum is so slow.
I use lil' ol' ie6.
Perhaps you could disable some options in your profile like html or bbs or whatever. experiment!

You can disable the showing of pictures in ie as well.

MR_Soren · Post by **MR_Soren** » Thu Aug 14, 2008 2:28 pm

I actually find it slow on the page where you enter messages, not so much when reading threads.

Post by **system11** » Thu Aug 14, 2008 2:44 pm

We don't have any transparent anchored overlays which I've seen on other forums (they absolutely kill my laptop too). It's probably Firefox 3 at fault. That POS is the reason I had to install DOS protection on this server, it likes to start making requests on an infinite loop.

Of course it could be that some people have animated avatars that are giving you trouble. Not a fan of them myself, next time you notice it try adblocking any animated avatars and see if the problem goes away.

Seriously, my laptop crawls on even things like the new ebay search functions (javascript+overlays), it'd definitely have a problem here and it doesn't.

Ceph · Post by **Ceph** » Thu Aug 14, 2008 2:49 pm

Good to know, I'll stay with Firefox 2 for now.

Mortificator · Post by **Mortificator** » Thu Aug 14, 2008 2:54 pm

theevilfunkster wrote:1.6gb P4 256Mb RAM. Works fine on IE, like ass on Firefox.

*scratches head* I got the same precessor speed (but more RAM) on this machine and I haven't noticed any problems with this site on Firefox 2 or 3.

Lordstar · Post by **Lordstar** » Thu Aug 14, 2008 3:10 pm

theevilfunkster wrote:1.6gb P4 256Mb RAM. Works fine on IE, like ass on Firefox. And a girl friend who does not know shit about PCs and keeps installing/uninstalling shit

fixed

kernow · Post by **kernow** » Thu Aug 14, 2008 3:45 pm

256MB of RAM would probably be the problem, firefox is more of a memory hog due to tab caching etc.

XP can only just scrape by in 256MB really, you'd be wise to bump it up with a 512MB or 256MB DIMM for next to nothing off ebay, and watch it fly.

neorichieb1971 · Post by **neorichieb1971** » Thu Aug 14, 2008 4:04 pm

Lightning speed here. Firefox 2.0.

Koa Zo · Post by **Koa Zo** » Thu Aug 14, 2008 4:47 pm

bloodflowers wrote: It's probably Firefox 3 at fault. That POS is the reason I had to install DOS protection on this server, it likes to start making requests on an infinite loop.

After upgrading to FF3 I was no longer able to log-in, even with IE6 when FF was closed.
After uninstalling both internet browsers and reinstalling just FF2 I am able to log-in again. Go figure.

t0yrobo · Post by **t0yrobo** » Thu Aug 14, 2008 8:19 pm

kernow wrote:256MB of RAM would probably be the problem, firefox is more of a memory hog due to tab caching etc.

XP can only just scrape by in 256MB really, you'd be wise to bump it up with a 512MB or 256MB DIMM for next to nothing off ebay, and watch it fly.

Might be worthwhile to upgrade the ram just as a general suggestion. For that much ram it'd be dirt cheap.

Ex-Cyber · Post by **Ex-Cyber** » Thu Aug 14, 2008 9:03 pm

I had problems with beta versions of Firefox 3, but it's fine with "Iceweasel" (Debian-packaged Firefox; trademark dispute etc.) 3.0.1.

gavin19 · Post by **gavin19** » Thu Aug 14, 2008 10:01 pm

Opera always used to use much less RAM using exactly the same sites/tabs over a comparable period of time. Now it uses much the same, if not slightly more. Having said that, it somehow manages to load pages quicker, and scrolling is always smooth.

Elixir · Post by **Elixir** » Thu Aug 14, 2008 10:47 pm

Runs fine on Firefox 2.0.0.7 here.

Gets indigestion when scrolling past Lordstar and Skykid's posts, though.

theevilfunkster · Post by **theevilfunkster** » Thu Aug 14, 2008 11:46 pm

MR_Soren wrote:I actually find it slow on the page where you enter messages, not so much when reading threads.

Yeah, a lot slower when typing messages.

I guess I could do with more RAM, or just a new PC

Ed Oscuro · Post by **Ed Oscuro** » Fri Aug 15, 2008 1:01 am

I also had a 1.6 GHz early rev. shit Pentium 4 machine with roughly those specs; didn't have any problem browsing with it. Maybe u upgrade ur grafix to fix?

Also, lol FireFux 2. I'm sticking with 3. Great speed on the site, and all others.

@ Bloodflowers: If FF3 is sending along requests in an infinite loop, that would show up as activity in the browser's progress bar, right? I don't ever see anything like that.

The only problem I have is when scrolling the text entry page - rolling up the mouse wheel on the page I'm typing on right now is noticably slower than even this. Scrolling the topic view pages isn't a problem. Since the text entry box is always onscreen and its own scroll box works fine, it's not an issue.

And my PC doesn't really have any excuse for lagging: New installation of XP, all drivers current, 2.4 GHz e6600 Core 2 Duo, 2 GB RAM...

ED-057 · Post by **ED-057** » Fri Aug 15, 2008 8:47 am

I don't really like Opera 9.5 so I'm sticking with 9.25 for now. No problems at all with shmups forum, even on my ancient but totally awesome Gateway Solo 2200 laptop (PentiumMMX-166, 40MB RAM)

Necronopticous · Post by **Necronopticous** » Fri Aug 15, 2008 8:55 am

Running Firefox 2.0.0.16. Never had any slowdown, here. Haven't upgraded to Firefox 3, and I certainly don't plan on it.

Ex-Cyber · Post by **Ex-Cyber** » Fri Aug 15, 2008 2:21 pm

Ed Oscuro wrote:If FF3 is sending along requests in an infinite loop, that would show up as activity in the browser's progress bar, right? I don't ever see anything like that.

There are probably some prefetching and "download accelerator" extensions that cause abusive behavior behind the scenes, not to mention completely different programs that just claim to be Firefox "for compatibility" (i.e. so the webmaster can't ban you based on user agent).

Post by **system11** » Fri Aug 15, 2008 3:19 pm

Ex-Cyber wrote:
Ed Oscuro wrote:If FF3 is sending along requests in an infinite loop, that would show up as activity in the browser's progress bar, right? I don't ever see anything like that.
There are probably some prefetching and "download accelerator" extensions that cause abusive behavior behind the scenes, not to mention completely different programs that just claim to be Firefox "for compatibility" (i.e. so the webmaster can't ban you based on user agent).

Fasterfox... That's disabled in the robots.txt file. No, the FF3 bug is pretty specific, if you've got popup windows blocked you'll never know it's trying to retrieve the popup over and over. I think it might be happening with some people who have popup notifications on private messages. Only way I can explain the EPIC traffic that happens from time to time, usually from the same individuals.

I even talked to one, he wasn't aware of anything going on with his browser, but it was so bad I had to firewall off all his companies web proxies for a bit.

Ed Oscuro · Post by **Ed Oscuro** » Sat Aug 16, 2008 7:24 am

I just checked, and I had notify on popups enabled (but I also block many popups). FF3 is set to block popups.

So I can't imagine it's really an FF3 issue, unless it's a case of old settings confusing FF3 or it interacting badly with some software configurations.

Post by **system11** » Sat Aug 16, 2008 9:43 am

Ed Oscuro wrote:I just checked, and I had notify on popups enabled (but I also block many popups). FF3 is set to block popups.

So I can't imagine it's really an FF3 issue, unless it's a case of old settings confusing FF3 or it interacting badly with some software configurations.

http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic ... &p=3515595

JBC · Post by **JBC** » Sat Aug 16, 2008 10:26 am

Firefox 3 is the worst browser i've ever used. If my Wildblue connection wasn't so shitty i would certainly have reinstalled 2 now, but it's almost like they are teaming up against me. Every time i go to re-dl 2 something happens and the computer freezes up or Mozilla crashes half-through.