Terminator Salvation [spoilers] [seriously don't even open]

JBC · Post by **JBC** » Mon Aug 11, 2008 11:07 am

Skimmed the teaser and found this in a couple frames. There's our T-600.

D · Post by D » Mon Aug 11, 2008 11:26 am

Where can I download the trailer?

JBC · Post by **JBC** » Mon Aug 11, 2008 11:37 am

http://rss.warnerbros.com/terminatorsalvation/

D · Post by D » Mon Aug 11, 2008 12:26 pm

thanks!

subcons · Post by **subcons** » Mon Aug 11, 2008 1:30 pm

Some people seem to be poo pooing on the idea of this movie even being made. I thought the third one shouldn't have been made at all, but this actually looks good. They sound very passionate about doing this one right. I'm looking forward to seeing it myself.

D · Post by D » Mon Aug 11, 2008 1:38 pm

subcons wrote:Some people seem to be poo pooing on the idea of this movie even being made. I thought the third one shouldn't have been made at all, but this actually looks good. They sound very passionate about doing this one right. I'm looking forward to seeing it myself.

3 was a mess, only the first 15 minutes were fun.
But I really like the series and I just want more sci fi, so this movie is very welcome.
I hope that we'll get Robocop vs Terminator some day. That would be BIG.

JBC · Post by **JBC** » Mon Aug 11, 2008 2:14 pm

D wrote:I hope that we'll get Robocop vs Terminator some day. That would be BIG.

Nosir. 3 was bad enough, i really don't want Terminator going the way of Aliens and Predator. Remember pre-Alien Resurrection when you used to be able to take them seriously? Terminator still has some integrity. A little. And this movie looks promising enough to salvage that.

Lordstar · Post by **Lordstar** » Mon Aug 11, 2008 3:01 pm

D wrote:
subcons wrote:Some people seem to be poo pooing on the idea of this movie even being made. I thought the third one shouldn't have been made at all, but this actually looks good. They sound very passionate about doing this one right. I'm looking forward to seeing it myself.
3 was a mess, only the first 15 minutes were fun.
But I really like the series and I just want more sci fi, so this movie is very welcome.
I hope that we'll get Robocop vs Terminator some day. That would be BIG.

naah fuck that i want to see Superman vs Aliens. Now that would be epic!

dave4shmups · Post by **dave4shmups** » Mon Aug 11, 2008 3:45 pm

I'm not going to dump all over this movie before it's made, but I do wonder how good it could be without Schwarzenegger. A Terminator movie without him would be like Top Gun without Tom Cruise. And, look at the TV show last year; obviously he's governor so he wasn't in it, but they should have at least gotten one or two of the actors from the films.

Post by **nZero** » Mon Aug 11, 2008 3:59 pm

The only actor that I was disappointed they didn't bring back for the show was the guy who played Dr. Silberman. Especially after he was willing to waste time with his fanservice cameo on T3.

When's the series start up again? September?

Elixir · Post by **Elixir** » Mon Aug 11, 2008 4:00 pm

Oh yay let's milk the franchise.

nem · Post by **nem** » Mon Aug 11, 2008 4:05 pm

The premise for this film is what I wanted Terminator 3 to be based on. However, all hope for this one is lost on the fact that the director is McG.

Uhh, no thanks.

JBC · Post by **JBC** » Mon Aug 11, 2008 4:08 pm

Shirley Manson is supposed to play a Cyberdyne CEO in season 2, but i haven't even watched any of season 1 yet so i wouldn't know if the show is any good anyway.

I agree that 3 should have taken place in the future war. Would have made alot more sense.

sven666 · Post by **sven666** » Mon Aug 11, 2008 4:29 pm

terminator VS aliens

what the hell would happen when reese meets hicks? somekind of blackhole space-time abruption and the movie ends?

Mortificator · Post by **Mortificator** » Mon Aug 11, 2008 5:29 pm

sven666 wrote:what the hell would happen when reese meets hicks? somekind of blackhole space-time abruption and the movie ends?

Reese would knock Hicks up and the baby would lead the rebellion against the alien cyborg puppets.

The Coop · Post by **The Coop** » Mon Aug 11, 2008 7:10 pm

circuitface wrote:

Skimmed the teaser and found this in a couple frames. There's our T-600.

...

I'm honestly not sure what to think. I know things like this are usually simply people in costumes, but the problem I have right now, is that it looks like a guy in a costume for some low budget sci-fi flick. Perhaps the image is deceiving, and it really is CGI that's well rendered into the surroundings, meaning it'll look and move better than the still image suggests. But right now, all I'm seeing are images of some dude in a bulky costume lumbering around like something out of a zombie flick... or Pumpkinhead.

Lordstar · Post by **Lordstar** » Mon Aug 11, 2008 7:16 pm

im kinda hot for the T-600

subcons · Post by **subcons** » Mon Aug 11, 2008 8:38 pm

The Coop wrote:I'm honestly not sure what to think. I know things like this are usually simply people in costumes, but the problem I have right now, is that it looks like a guy in a costume for some low budget sci-fi flick. Perhaps the image is deceiving, and it really is CGI that's well rendered into the surroundings, meaning it'll look and move better than the still image suggests. But right now, all I'm seeing are images of some dude in a bulky costume lumbering around like something out of a zombie flick... or Pumpkinhead.

You may not be far off. Here's something he mentioned in the latest blog entry of the site linked up top there:

Every morning and every night Christian and I work on the story. Sam's contribution has been excellent. We are committed to putting the story and character first and then supplementing that with action and visual effects. It is our intention to make a film on a large scale with the nuance and subtext of a high quality independent picture.

This sounds like a good thing to me. The first one doesn't really hold up special effects wise, but we all love it do death. I think if they can nail the story and keep the characters interesting and avoid making it just another Hollywood blockbuster piece of garbage, this will turn out to be something the fans will like. But I'm sure the effects will look just fine in the end.

As for Arnold not being present in this one, I really have no problem with that. I really like what Christian Bale can do as an actor, so his name being attached to this lends some credibility to it in my book.

CMoon · Post by **CMoon** » Mon Aug 11, 2008 9:49 pm

I think if they can continue with the spirit of the first film--and basically ignore everything after that, they'll be fine. All of the following films really missed both the low budget feel of the first one (as pointed out above), skimped on plot and character, and forgot the visceral feel of a FUCKING MACHINE THAT LOOKS LIKE EDDIE FROM IRON MAIDEN chasing you.

If they can do these things right, this might somehow be the -correct- sequel to The Terminator (plus, with the Dark Knight, I'm thinking dirty, hopeless, depressing films are back in!)

Udderdude · Post by **Udderdude** » Tue Aug 12, 2008 11:03 am

The series went to shit after 2, Hollywood attempting to milk a popular franchise to death. Not exactly a new occurance either ..

Lordstar · Post by **Lordstar** » Tue Aug 12, 2008 11:28 am

seems that hollywood is now on tune on

if were going to do this let do this right.

Like the current batman films and various other remakes. I just recall how long its going to take before we slip back in to the shit of Batman forever or batman and robin lol it will happen. just a matter of when.

I guess thats one thing good thing about the state of the world which is good. everyone is on a sombernote so no one really want to go see bubble gum movies they. Dark times = dark films

neorichieb1971 · Post by **neorichieb1971** » Tue Aug 12, 2008 12:43 pm

T1 T2 and T3 were all the same movie just showing us the latest effects. This one looks to change the mold for the better. The only part good in T3 was the end, it meant no more remakes with better effects

CMoon · Post by **CMoon** » Tue Aug 12, 2008 2:28 pm

Huh??

T1 >>> T2 >>>>>> T3

The first film (though having special effects) was hardly about special effects, having very little money. I also can't really stand how only the first film is actually scary. For all the people who praise the second film, if you ignore the high production values, it has a shit plot that's totally broken and also drops the horror elements for big action hollywood. Give me more of the first film anyday.

Edit: Oh, I think I know what you mean--all have basically the same 'terminator from the future come to mess with the past' premise, but they are hardly the same movies.

Thinimus · Post by **Thinimus** » Tue Aug 12, 2008 11:34 pm

I hope what they do is basically make these movies not "Terminator" movies but a group of movies that use the terminator mythos to bring back the feeling of seeing something scary that you've never imagined possible.

James Cameron said his idea for terminator came from a dream he had while in Italy doing some work and suffering from terrible influenza. He dreamed of a skeleton rising out of fire and coming to him.

Anyway, you gotta imagine what it was like for people when they saw the film in theaters for the first time.

T1 and T2 had it and are classic. The I'll be back scene with the car was classic. The hydraulic scene was classic. The T-1000 coming out of the floor and staring down the guy before poking him in the head was classic.

The third was just a milker and Arnold's ticket to the governor's office. Seriously, a female terminator dressed in Channel or Prada or whatever with inflating boobs is not scary.

I've seen some other shots of the T-600's. They're slightly thicker and bigger versions of the T-800 but with minute differences, like how their actuators are placed etc. They also aren't as shiny due to materials being less advanced. They look tougher basically. (Though they aren't actually).

They're definitely not guys in suits though. However, there will be scenes where they have rubber skin and in states where the rubber has faded or been torn.

Apparently, there's rumors that the t-800's will start showing up later as teasers.

*edit*

Pics:

http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Comic-Co ... -9651.html

The Coop · Post by **The Coop** » Wed Aug 13, 2008 12:22 am

Vokatse wrote:... and Salvation was a sequel to T3.

It basically is, despite what's been said. T3 ended with the nuclear war that was always supposed to be caused by Skynet. Salvation and its sequels, will fill at least some of the gap between the end of T3, and the eventual death of John Connor that was talked (and brought) about by the Terminator in T3.

It may not be numerical, but it is a sequel in nearly every other sense.

PC Engine Fan X! · Post by **PC Engine Fan X!** » Wed Aug 13, 2008 4:51 pm

nZero wrote:The only actor that I was disappointed they didn't bring back for the show was the guy who played Dr. Silberman. Especially after he was willing to waste time with his fanservice cameo on T3.

When's the series start up again? September?

According to Fox, it will be back on the small screen on September 8th, 2008...that would be the second season of the Sarah Connor Chronicles series. ^_~

Glad to hear that another Terminator film is in the works...it's about damn time. The "Future War" senario with Skynet and the Resistance should be pretty epic.

The T2 movie teaser trailer was cool -- the one where Skynet builds a brand new T-800 series endoskeleton with the same likeness from the first film on an automated robotic assembly line. Tis a shame that particular scene was never shown in the T2 film nor was it expanded either. It has been said that it took a mere two days to get all the necessary filmed shots to make that cool teaser trailer. ^_~

PC Engien Fan X! ^_~

Lordstar · Post by **Lordstar** » Wed Aug 13, 2008 5:18 pm

yeah the PC game had it right! setting the story in the future with skynet/rampage . . . . ahhh good times

Lordstar · Post by **Lordstar** » Wed Aug 13, 2008 5:22 pm

my bad its Future Shock & Skynet (rampage was balls)

dave4shmups · Post by **dave4shmups** » Thu Aug 14, 2008 12:02 am

The Coop wrote:
Vokatse wrote:... and Salvation was a sequel to T3.
It basically is, despite what's been said. T3 ended with the nuclear war that was always supposed to be caused by Skynet. Salvation and its sequels, will fill at least some of the gap between the end of T3, and the eventual death of John Connor that was talked (and brought) about by the Terminator in T3.

It may not be numerical, but it is a sequel in nearly every other sense.

Very true, now that I think about it. I wanted to watch T3, and didn't expect it to be that good, but I thought it was great. Yesterday, I watched the Terminator Salvation trailer on Quicktime (WMP froze the picture) and I'm really impressed with how they built up the Terminator theme music. Brad Fidel is a genius, IMO.

JBC · Post by **JBC** » Fri Aug 15, 2008 4:41 pm

Now you've got me cussing.

I haven't watched Terminator 3 since it was in theaters. Since then i've probably seen 1 and 2 a thousand times but have had no urge to view the third one again for anything but review purposes to see just how bad they fucked it up and cry a little since i heard it's therapeutic.

From what i remember monkey faced hobo "John Conner" spends the entire movie whining and bitching about how he's not good enough and a bunch of other emo shit. The movie made alot of mistakes, but really the biggest mistake of all was returning characters not being played by their original actors. Don't tell me Ed Furlong didn't need the money, nigga ain't got no job.

There's a really unnecessary and pointless female thrown in there so they'd have another attractive girl attached to the previews to draw in audiences and appeal to a new generation of teenagers.

The "Terminatrix" has the stupidest name because the producers wanted people to identify this with another movie that was popular at the time. OH. And why the fuck Skynet - a superior artificial intelligence - would somehow calculate that that lemon was more powerful and a better choice than another T-1000 is way beyond me. A T-1000 could obviously take one of those things anyday, not to mention it can look like whatever it wants.

No Sarah Conner? Really? The main character? Get that shit out of here

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