Happy July 5th!

MX7 · Post by **MX7** » Sun Jul 06, 2008 5:03 pm

Ceph wrote:Today is Venezuela's independence day (Venezuela gained independence from Spain on July 5, 1811). Happy 5th of July!

Fantastic, glad someone remembered

doodude · Post by **doodude** » Sun Jul 06, 2008 5:24 pm

The n00b wrote:
doodude wrote:The US is literally on the verge of losing its SW border to its southern neighbor through the sheer invasion of numbers . Thats a development that the US has to look forward to. When that population reaches a certain point & the state & local governments are filled with so-called Mexican Americans who suddenly decide to vote for reunification with Mexico we can say adios California!
First and not that last racist post that you did in one thread. You've called people a troll for merely disagreeing with you or called others racist just to distract people's attention from your own racism. It's time you held yourself to the same rules eh common man?

Now dog gone it I said I wasnt going to respond to you, didnt I?

I believe the post that you refer to might make more sense in its entirety than it does here. If Im not mistaken this was a conversation Skykid & I were having on China's future. Lofty stuff, eh!
Here, that statement as is does seem insensitive I agree. And if Im not mistaken I made an apology for that statement later after you called me on it.
Something you have not done for your Whitey Rant.

It might be more fair to post a link to the entire thread if you really feel that strongly about it. I might like to read it myself...

Youll have to explain the Troll part. I dont think I have a problem with disagreement. I do have a problem with the way some disagree tho'.

And Im impressed.
1st, that you feel compelled to search for long ago post.
2nd, that you can find anything in these forums. I cant find shit with these search features.
3rd, except for the little "Common Man" jab, that was a dandy little post.

Keep up the good work.

JoshF · Post by **JoshF** » Mon Jul 07, 2008 1:22 am

FARC is not organized labor, it is organized crime. You're the one who needs to get a clue!

I'm sure those rebels are living the high life in the freaking jungle right now unlike the real Gambinos heading the government and ruling class who make their money by stealing from the true producers of wealth (a.k.a. the biggest and longest running racket in history) and the drug lords who help fund ultra-right paramilitary groups along with US and Colombia to not only kill the rebels but to harass trade unionists (the extent of the "harassment" seems to be entirely up to them.) You don't seem to have a problem with these guys or maybe the spokespeople for your syndicate haven't mentioned them yet. I realize that FARC is involved in drugs too but I'm with Oliver Stone that their intentions are noble and they do what they feel they have to do to get the upper hand from these mobsters. Certainly it's nothing George Washinton, Nelson Mandela, or any other rebel scum wouldn't do under the same circumstances.

The n00b · Post by **The n00b** » Mon Jul 07, 2008 1:38 am

JoshF wrote:
FARC is not organized labor, it is organized crime. You're the one who needs to get a clue!
I'm sure those rebels are living the high life in the freaking jungle right now unlike the real Gambinos heading the government and ruling class who make their money by stealing from the true producers of wealth (a.k.a. the biggest and longest running racket in history) and the drug lords who help fund ultra-right paramilitary groups along with US and Colombia to not only kill the rebels but to harass trade unionists (the extent of the "harassment" seems to be entirely up to them.) You don't seem to have a problem with these guys or maybe the spokespeople for your syndicate haven't mentioned them yet. I realize that FARC is involved in drugs too but I'm with Oliver Stone that their intentions are noble and they do what they feel they have to do to get the upper hand from these mobsters. Certainly it's nothing George Washinton, Nelson Mandela, or any other rebel scum wouldn't do under the same circumstances.

Didn't a certain US president use so called rebel groups in order to destabilize governments in South America? As I recall, as long as these groups fulfilled their daily quota of curb stomping communists, they got free weapons and US military training.

Now I wonder which US president would do such a terrible thing....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_Reagen

Hint: He was also the only American president to commit high treason and violate his oath of office.

Turrican · Post by **Turrican** » Mon Jul 07, 2008 10:34 am

http://www.japantoday.com/category/shuk ... -the-world

Japan ranked 5th most peaceful country in world

What makes a country peaceful? Journalist Akira Ikegami analyzes the “Global Peace Index” survey of 140 countries and regions which the Economist Intelligence Unit released in March.

According to the survey, Japan is ranked the 5th most peaceful country, following Iceland, Denmark, Norway and New Zealand. Japan is the only Asian country which is ranked in the top 20. The least peaceful country in the world right is Iraq, followed by Somalia, Sudan and Afghanistan.

The factors considered in the survey are: the number of internal and external conflicts, victims of organized crimes and number of refugees from 2000 to 2006. The frequency of riots, terrorism and availability of weapons as well as human rights violations and political stability are also considered. In addition, the number of police officers, prison population and murder cases per 100,000 population are factors.

People in Japan recently say they feel the number of serious crimes has been increasing. But it isn’t really. According to a survey by the National Police Agency in 2006, the number of “confirmed murder cases” marked the lowest since 1945. The number of murders in the 1960s was double today’s rate.

So what makes people feel like that? One reason is the increase of news programs and media. People are exposed daily to murder news, which makes it look like the murder rate is going up.

Why isn’t Japan No. 1 in the ranking? The survey explains it is because Japan does not yet have good relationships with China and North Korea. If these relationships go well, Japan might get the No. 1 spot.

What about the United States? The U.S. was ranked 97th in the survey, while China was 67th. The U.S. is the least peaceful country among developed countries. Because the survey was conducted before the riots in China, China may be ranked lower next time.

Why is the U.S. ranked so low? This is because of its continuing military campaign in Iraq and the high possibility of a terrorist attack on the mainland. In addition, the number of prisoners per population is the largest in the world. The high murder rate and availability of guns are also factors in America’s ranking.

To conclude, the definition of a “peaceful” country is one that never goes to war, never has riots, political instability and many murders, but protects human rights and provides public security with a small number of police officers. (Translated By Taro Fujimoto)

It would be interesting to see how Venezuela is placed - my bet is that it's rightfully above the 97th place.

EDIT:

http://www.visionofhumanity.org/gpi/res ... ings/2008/

I failed. Chavez is only #123.

Well done Japan! Since the countries which ranked #1-#4 make a total of circa 16 millions of population, and Japan has short of 130 million, it's almost like a first place. It surely is more hard to earn such a rank for a highly populated country.

Oh, the rogue states are of course at the very bottom of the list - then again who's beating them to a pulp?

Ceph · Post by **Ceph** » Mon Jul 07, 2008 11:43 am

Interesting. Shouldn't the USA rank way lower on that list? There is no other country that so readily resorts to military violence as a means of politics around the globe*. Of course given the United States' predominant position no other country could dare to act in a similar manner (or even has the means). I wonder if the percentage of governement expeditures going to the military is aptly considered in determining the position on the Global Peace Index. And lets not forget about social/racial injustice coupled with loose gun control, leading to a high violent crime rate. Last but not least, a blatant disregard for human rights: An awful prison system and death penalty, Guantanamo.

All things considered, place 97 of 140 seems awfully gracious.

*Mind you, I'm not saying it's a bad thing that the USA are exerting their power to keep nations run by religious fanatics from getting their hands on nuclear weapons.

JoshF · Post by **JoshF** » Mon Jul 07, 2008 12:47 pm

** except Israel

doodude · Post by **doodude** » Tue Jul 08, 2008 8:42 pm

Ceph wrote: *Mind you, I'm not saying it's a bad thing that the USA are exerting their power to keep nations run by religious fanatics from getting their hands on nuclear weapons.

Holy grudging concessions Batman!

MX7 · Post by **MX7** » Tue Jul 08, 2008 8:48 pm

JoshF wrote:** except Israel

Wins.

Ceph · Post by **Ceph** » Wed Jul 09, 2008 10:54 am

JoshF wrote:** except Israel

Right! But that's not surprising, is it?

moozooh · Post by **moozooh** » Wed Jul 09, 2008 11:04 am

doodude wrote:Holy grudging concessions Batman! :shock:

Hmm, this reminded me of 2D gaming forum for some reason.

Ceph · Post by **Ceph** » Wed Jul 09, 2008 1:24 pm

moozooh wrote:
doodude wrote:Holy grudging concessions Batman!

Hmm, this reminded me of 2D gaming forum for some reason.

I don't remember using huge banners in my posts. And there's another differnce: 2Dgaming.net is non-commercial.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hunger_Site

The Hunger Site is not a charity; it is a for-profit corporation which donates the revenue from its advertising banner to selected charities.

Capitalizing on compassion. Am I the only one who finds runnig a business like that disgusting?

Twiddle · Post by **Twiddle** » Wed Jul 09, 2008 1:44 pm

doodude wrote:The US is literally on the verge of losing its SW border to its southern neighbor through the sheer invasion of numbers . Thats a development that the US has to look forward to. When that population reaches a certain point & the state & local governments are filled with so-called Mexican Americans who suddenly decide to vote for reunification with Mexico we can say adios California!

Ceph · Post by **Ceph** » Wed Jul 09, 2008 1:54 pm

PS.

the company [The Hunger Site] does not publicly disclose the amounts it actually donates or the salaries of its executives.

Of course not.

moozooh · Post by **moozooh** » Wed Jul 09, 2008 2:11 pm

Ceph wrote:I don't remember using huge banners in my posts.

True; I was mainly taking a jab at you spamming the link at every good opportunity. :P

JoshF · Post by **JoshF** » Wed Jul 09, 2008 2:23 pm

Thanks for the heads up, I'll stop clicking.

There was something worse, I think it was called NeoPets and it was designed to get children to watch advertisements.

Never_Scurred · Post by **Never_Scurred** » Wed Jul 09, 2008 5:53 pm

trivial wrote:I'd be all right with Chavez if he wouldn't continue the "our poor are too stupid for pure socialism" bullshit that always lurks behind dictatorial communism. I applaud his resistance to our own re-elected dictator, because OUR poor were too stupid to vote him out. Perhaps they've learned something by now. One hopes.

I don't think the poor had anything to do with that. I'd substitute poor for the three r's (rich religious republicans).

doodude · Post by **doodude** » Wed Jul 09, 2008 5:53 pm

Ceph wrote:
moozooh wrote:
doodude wrote:Holy grudging concessions Batman!

Hmm, this reminded me of 2D gaming forum for some reason.
I don't remember using huge banners in my posts. And there's another differnce: 2Dgaming.net is non-commercial.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hunger_Site

The Hunger Site is not a charity; it is a for-profit corporation which donates the revenue from its advertising banner to selected charities.
Capitalizing on compassion. Am I the only one who finds runnig a business like that disgusting?

NO, you are not.

It is obvious, or should be anyway, that this is a for profit site. If one can look at the multiple sales links available & not figure out it is a for profit site then one must be daft.

However, if this site does not donate the food it claims for simply clicking the " click here to feed etc" link as they claim then that is false advertising at the very least.

The Wiki site claimed it "probably" does not make the donation. I will look into this myself & if the answer is not that they 'Definately' donate the food, then I will remove the link & banner toot sweet.

Having said that, if they "DO" donate the food as claimed, I dont have a problem with them being a For Profit organization as long as the animals in shelters are fed.

doodude · Post by **doodude** » Wed Jul 09, 2008 6:50 pm

Twiddle wrote:
doodude wrote:The US is literally on the verge of losing its SW border to its southern neighbor through the sheer invasion of numbers . Thats a development that the US has to look forward to. When that population reaches a certain point & the state & local governments are filled with so-called Mexican Americans who suddenly decide to vote for reunification with Mexico we can say adios California!
I made a comparrison to China & Tibet having border changes because Tibetans are growing in such numbers & political might that they may force China into a border change.
Ill bet everyone completely understands that.
This is a possibility in the US as well. And Europe...
But goodness me, dont be so politically incorrect & make the same comparison with the US & Mexico.
Every knows its not the same when its the Evil, dreaded, hateful USA!

If you take that statement out of context then youre just trolling baby!

As to N00bs little whitey rant... well, hes only talking about the hateful, corporate shills, drug crazed, conservative Whitey Americans & everyone knows they need to be taken down a notch, right!
So gosh, he deserves a pass dont cha know, poor lil' fella...

doodude wrote:
The n00b wrote: Hi, how are you? I'm one of those Mexican-Americans that have been here since the conquering. I live in that quiet place called south texas that our sickly pale government that lies far to the north tends not to give a shit about unless they are worried about threats to their precious drug supply,
Sickly Pale....does that mean whitey? Then I guess its just me cuz that sounds a bit racist...

The n00b wrote:
Now I know nobody's opinion counts where I live because obviously we're all a bunch of rednecks or OTWA's(Other than white Americans)
Sounds like a rant about OTWA's. Sorta got a bit of a whine about the evil whitey again.

The n00b wrote: but I gotta say there's not many people here who want some reunification with Mexico. 1. The conquering was almost 200 yrs ago, nobody remembers it.
Then you must be very uninformed about LaRaza & Meche who do want the SW returned to Mexico. You may not but these people do.

The n00b wrote: 2. It's pretty much America's drug mule and it's a pretty fucked up place.
Im not really even sure what the point is here???

The n00b wrote: Mostly we just wish you guys would go back to ignoring us or thinking we all speak Spanish so we don't understand that oh so funny Mexican joke you just said on CNN. Take our tax money, buy some more drugs with it or go to a tanning salon in a sad attempt to turn orange.
Hmmmmmmm... It seems he has a problem with Orange people too! Will it never end!?

The n00b wrote: Oh yeah and that whole stupid Iraq War thing: Nobody here minds sending their kids to go die over there. I mean at least it wasn't a white one, rite?
Frankly, the majority of the soldiers in Iraq are indeed white. Dude!
Im sorry,but I just see this as a racist rant. I could be wrong but damn theres alot of racism within all this.

And this was brought on because I said this:

doodude wrote: The US is literally on the verge of losing its SW border to its southern neighbor through the sheer invasion of numbers . Thats a development that the US has to look forward to. When that population reaches a certain point & the state & local governments are filled with so-called Mexican Americans who suddenly decide to vote for reunification with Mexico we can say adios California!

Its all far broader than you know & its all changing every day in every place, in all the myriad ways.
So sit back & have a cookie...
I do admit that the word "invasion" & "so-called Mexican American" was not the politically correct terms I should have used.
But the statement was made more to Skykids point, that not only China but the US as well is facing demographic changes that are inevitable.

There was no racist intention & I still stand behind the statement.

If you would like to interpret some emotional BS from that then thats you saying it. Not me...

As to the issue of illegal aliens ( I know, more politically incorrect speech ) I think its a form of slavery to have good people hiding in the background making shit wages with no benefits.

But this post is not about Illegal Aliens. Its about my response to what I see as a racist rant & an unfair assumption of what kind of guy Im like.

I dont know if anyone is aware of this or not but the area called SW USA used to be called Mexico. Thats because a bunch of whiteys took it over & Mexico had to say Adios Baja!

The nature of borders is that for a multitude of reasons they change.
In fact, the only thing constant in life.....is change.

The US borders may change again. European borders may change again. Asian Borders may change again. Borders change.

If you dont understand that, well, youre just living in theory land!

Again, thats my case. If some of you want to remain in the elementary school, Lord of the Flies mentality, knock yourself out.

Im gonna go play a Shmup & let you rip me to shreds! Have fun...

CIT · Post by **CIT** » Wed Jul 09, 2008 7:49 pm

JoshF wrote:I'm sure those rebels are living the high life in the freaking jungle right now unlike the real Gambinos heading the government and ruling class who make their money by stealing from the true producers of wealth (a.k.a. the biggest and longest running racket in history) and the drug lords who help fund ultra-right paramilitary groups along with US and Colombia to not only kill the rebels but to harass trade unionists (the extent of the "harassment" seems to be entirely up to them.) You don't seem to have a problem with these guys or maybe the spokespeople for your syndicate haven't mentioned them yet.

I don't believe I've ever posted my opinion on the Colombian government here, so you're hardly in a position to make assumptions about it and what I do and do not have problems with.

I realize that FARC is involved in drugs too but I'm with Oliver Stone that their intentions are noble and they do what they feel they have to do to get the upper hand from these mobsters. Certainly it's nothing George Washinton, Nelson Mandela, or any other rebel scum wouldn't do under the same circumstances.

This is actually hilariously incoherent. Apart from the fact that Washington and Mandela never sold drugs or kidnapped innocent people, I'm particularly baffled by your "noble intentions" comment. Everybody and their grandma has noble intention these days (see Bush's reasoning for going into Iraq), but it's the deeds that count.

The n00b · Post by **The n00b** » Wed Jul 09, 2008 10:39 pm

doodude wrote:
Twiddle wrote:
doodude wrote:The US is literally on the verge of losing its SW border to its southern neighbor through the sheer invasion of numbers . Thats a development that the US has to look forward to. When that population reaches a certain point & the state & local governments are filled with so-called Mexican Americans who suddenly decide to vote for reunification with Mexico we can say adios California!
I made a comparrison to China & Tibet having border changes because Tibetans are growing in such numbers & political might that they may force China into a border change.
Ill bet everyone completely understands that.
This is a possibility in the US as well. And Europe...
But goodness me, dont be so politically incorrect & make the same comparison with the US & Mexico.
Every knows its not the same when its the Evil, dreaded, hateful USA!

If you take that statement out of context then youre just trolling baby!

As to N00bs little whitey rant... well, hes only talking about the hateful, corporate shills, drug crazed, conservative Whitey Americans & everyone knows they need to be taken down a notch, right!
So gosh, he deserves a pass dont cha know, poor lil' fella...

doodude wrote: Sickly Pale....does that mean whitey? Then I guess its just me cuz that sounds a bit racist...
Sounds like a rant about OTWA's. Sorta got a bit of a whine about the evil whitey again.
Then you must be very uninformed about LaRaza & Meche who do want the SW returned to Mexico. You may not but these people do.
Im not really even sure what the point is here???
Hmmmmmmm... It seems he has a problem with Orange people too! Will it never end!?
Frankly, the majority of the soldiers in Iraq are indeed white. Dude!
Im sorry,but I just see this as a racist rant. I could be wrong but damn theres alot of racism within all this.

And this was brought on because I said this:
I do admit that the word "invasion" & "so-called Mexican American" was not the politically correct terms I should have used.
But the statement was made more to Skykids point, that not only China but the US as well is facing demographic changes that are inevitable.

There was no racist intention & I still stand behind the statement.

If you would like to interpret some emotional BS from that then thats you saying it. Not me...

As to the issue of illegal aliens ( I know, more politically incorrect speech ) I think its a form of slavery to have good people hiding in the background making shit wages with no benefits.

But this post is not about Illegal Aliens. Its about my response to what I see as a racist rant & an unfair assumption of what kind of guy Im like.
I dont know if anyone is aware of this or not but the area called SW USA used to be called Mexico. Thats because a bunch of whiteys took it over & Mexico had to say Adios Baja!

The nature of borders is that for a multitude of reasons they change.
In fact, the only thing constant in life.....is change.

The US borders may change again. European borders may change again. Asian Borders may change again. Borders change.

If you dont understand that, well, youre just living in theory land!

Again, thats my case. If some of you want to remain in the elementary school, Lord of the Flies mentality, knock yourself out.

Im gonna go play a Shmup & let you rip me to shreds! Have fun...

How ur war, Hitler? Remember kids nobody's really racist in America these days, they are just "politically incorrect."

Now doodude if your, very racist, theory is correct.. Why aren't we in danger of losing our US-canadian border to Canada? I guess New York is in danger of being taken over by a joint venture between the blacks and the Jews, eh?

I'd like to be able to tell Ceph, and others, that they have Americans all wrong. We really aren't as narrow-minded self absorbed or as kooky as we are portrayed to be. However, I'm sure that post would be followed by another one of your idiotic attacks on your fellow Americans or those "icky" foreigners.

JoshF · Post by **JoshF** » Thu Jul 10, 2008 2:12 am

I don't believe I've ever posted my opinion on the Colombian government here, so you're hardly in a position to make assumptions about it and what I do and do not have problems with.

You don't have enough problems to think that they shouldn't win.

This is actually hilariously incoherent. Apart from the fact that Washington and Mandela never sold drugs or kidnapped innocent people, I'm particularly baffled by your "noble intentions" comment. Everybody and their grandma has noble intention these days (see Bush's reasoning for going into Iraq), but it's the deeds that count.

I actually don't have a problem with drugs, except when the other side uses them as a blood diamond substitute. FARC takes people of interest just like the government so they have more bargaining chips to get some of their people released. It's a stupid cycle but hey that's war. It's worth noting here that every time FARC attempts to make a humanitarian gesture they're usually stabbed in the back. For instance, they wanted to exchange these hostages at least a year ago if some rebels were released but we know that's not how it went down. Lastly, deeds do count and that's why Bush is not noble despite whatever sounds come out of him.

WHITEY

No_not_like_Quake · Post by **No_not_like_Quake** » Thu Jul 10, 2008 2:15 am

The n00b wrote:
JoshF wrote:
FARC is not organized labor, it is organized crime. You're the one who needs to get a clue!
I'm sure those rebels are living the high life in the freaking jungle right now unlike the real Gambinos heading the government and ruling class who make their money by stealing from the true producers of wealth (a.k.a. the biggest and longest running racket in history) and the drug lords who help fund ultra-right paramilitary groups along with US and Colombia to not only kill the rebels but to harass trade unionists (the extent of the "harassment" seems to be entirely up to them.) You don't seem to have a problem with these guys or maybe the spokespeople for your syndicate haven't mentioned them yet. I realize that FARC is involved in drugs too but I'm with Oliver Stone that their intentions are noble and they do what they feel they have to do to get the upper hand from these mobsters. Certainly it's nothing George Washinton, Nelson Mandela, or any other rebel scum wouldn't do under the same circumstances.
Didn't a certain US president use so called rebel groups in order to destabilize governments in South America? As I recall, as long as these groups fulfilled their daily quota of curb stomping communists, they got free weapons and US military training.

Now I wonder which US president would do such a terrible thing....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_Reagen

Hint: He was also the only American president to commit high treason and violate his oath of office.

Facts are stupid things.

Twiddle · Post by **Twiddle** » Thu Jul 10, 2008 3:40 am

doodude wrote:
doodude wrote:The US is literally on the verge of losing its SW border to its southern neighbor through the sheer invasion of numbers . Thats a development that the US has to look forward to. When that population reaches a certain point & the state & local governments are filled with so-called Mexican Americans who suddenly decide to vote for reunification with Mexico we can say adios California!
I made a comparrison to China & Tibet having border changes because Tibetans are growing in such numbers & political might that they may force China into a border change.
Ill bet everyone completely understands that.
This is a possibility in the US as well. And Europe...
But goodness me, dont be so politically incorrect & make the same comparison with the US & Mexico.
Every knows its not the same when its the Evil, dreaded, hateful USA!

If you take that statement out of context then youre just trolling baby!

Can you point to me the logic in "less-than-moral political groups (Yes, Tibet aren't quite angels either despite having a slightly higher moral ground than China) with the same ethnicity gaining political capital in foreign ground" equaling "White people no longer the main demographic dominating a region = no longer America/Europe" without sounding latently racist

As to N00bs little whitey rant... well, hes only talking about the hateful, corporate shills, drug crazed, conservative Whitey Americans & everyone knows they need to be taken down a notch, right!
So gosh, he deserves a pass dont cha know, poor lil' fella...

I am reading this post and all I'm hearing is the word "nigger"

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Thu Jul 10, 2008 3:53 am

dont know if anyone is aware of this or not but the area called SW USA used to be called Mexico. Thats because a bunch of whiteys took it over & Mexico had to say Adios Baja!

And this is different from the North Eastern Seaboard how (other than saying saying, "toodle-ooh" to other white people)?

JoshF · Post by **JoshF** » Thu Jul 10, 2008 4:08 am

Yeah but which one did 9/11?

Twiddle · Post by **Twiddle** » Thu Jul 10, 2008 4:48 am

brown people

Zebra Airforce · Post by **Zebra Airforce** » Thu Jul 10, 2008 6:59 am

Twiddle wrote:jews

Twiddle · Post by **Twiddle** » Thu Jul 10, 2008 10:37 am

did katrina

No_not_like_Quake · Post by **No_not_like_Quake** » Thu Jul 10, 2008 5:31 pm

Wheelie, like many Transformers in the various cartoon series, suffers from a speech defect. Wheelie occasionally speaks in the third-person, but more noticeable is that he has a high-pitched voice and always speaks in rhyme, which generally made him reviled by much of the fanbase. This speech defect is absent in Japanese and in Italian dub.

Wheelie.

shmups.system11.org

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