Old games- do you have a limit?

evil_ash_xero · Post by **evil_ash_xero** » Fri Jul 04, 2008 1:51 pm

I've noticed a lot of my friends giving me weird looks to me salavating over games from 1994, or games that remind me of them. I'm like "they're great games!". But of course, i'm no different...just less so.

Games before the 16 bit age(and even the early 16 bit age) I tend to look "too old" to really grab my attention. And i'll have to admit to not really wanting to play any 8 bit games at all. I don't know where the PC Engine is located, in terms of power, but they look pretty old to me too, but I do like a few(maybe it's the cool CD sound that makes 'em seem a bit more modern).

Just wondering where most people's limit was. Now this is about graphics alone, not the games themselves, since that is a topic for another time.

s/m

P_HAT · Post by **P_HAT** » Fri Jul 04, 2008 1:57 pm

I like pong.

zinger · Post by **zinger** » Fri Jul 04, 2008 1:58 pm

I like games from circa 1985 and on best, because their stage designs are usually more complex and elaborate (read depth). There are many exceptions ofcourse, and I haven't even really exposed myself to that many games from the early eighties (I was born 1986), but I do look forward to doing so when I'm done with the most important games of the slightly more accessible 1985-2005 era.

OmniGLH · Post by **OmniGLH** » Fri Jul 04, 2008 2:00 pm

Nintendo NES/Famicom and Sega Master System

Post by **Shatterhand** » Fri Jul 04, 2008 2:07 pm

no limits to me.

jonny5 · Post by **jonny5** » Fri Jul 04, 2008 2:10 pm

pretty much early 90's on.....perhaps the odd late 80's but not really....not my thing....

but mostly late 90's....cuz i like to play danmaku games

moozooh · Post by **moozooh** » Fri Jul 04, 2008 2:27 pm

The reason I dislike most 8-bit era games is that their poor hardware usually prevented them from being more elaborate in terms of stage designs, physics, amount of text, amount of objects drawn/moving on the screen at once, etc. I still enjoy some of them, but I don't think there's more than a dozen of pre-90s games that I like. After that, starting with around 1991, more powerful systems started appearing, and the less powerful systems's power was being used close to its full potential. So let's say it's about 1991 and on.

KindGrind · Post by **KindGrind** » Fri Jul 04, 2008 2:35 pm

The SMS and NES are my limit. I have never owned Ataris, and honestly don't care much for them. I'm not a suckr for graphics, but I feel a bare minimum is always necessary.

lewisit · Post by **lewisit** » Fri Jul 04, 2008 2:55 pm

are we talking about consoles only or also about arcade-games here?

personally i like (also graphicwise) arcade-games going back till Space Invaders

but when it comes to consoles it's a totally dirfferent story:

the DC was (to my knowlege) the first PAL-homesystem to overcome the ridiculous speed&display-problems all other PAL-systems suffered from (ok: Rare did quite a job with it's N64-PAL-releases - but they really were exceptions to the rule...)

so a big *NONO* from me to all older-than-DC PAL-consoles!

PC Engine Fan X! · Post by **PC Engine Fan X!** » Fri Jul 04, 2008 3:26 pm

evil_ash_xero wrote:I've noticed a lot of my friends giving me weird looks to me salavating over games from 1994, or games that remind me of them. I'm like "they're great games!". But of course, i'm no different...just less so.

Games before the 16 bit age(and even the early 16 bit age) I tend to look "too old" to really grab my attention. And i'll have to admit to not really wanting to play any 8 bit games at all. I don't know where the PC Engine is located, in terms of power, but they look pretty old to me too, but I do like a few(maybe it's the cool CD sound that makes 'em seem a bit more modern).

Just wondering where most people's limit was. Now this is about graphics alone, not the games themselves, since that is a topic for another time.

s/m

You might recall that the PC Engine console has an 8-bit CPU & endowed with a 16-bit graphics card setup -- more powerful than an Famicom/NES but underpowered when compared to MD/Genesis & SF/SNES. You could say that about the Atari Jaguar as well, using a 16-bit CPU but acting like a 64-bit one when it needed to be. The diminitive white colored PCE has it's charms and can stand tall with the big boys any ol' day with it's diverse lineup of software. ^_~

Play a game of 2600 Moonsweeper and tell me that game really was pushing the 2600 to it's limits and then some. It really is a techincal masterpiece from those fine game developers at Imagic back in 1982-1984. Imagic was based out of Los Gatos, CA btw.

PC Engine Fan X! ^_~

Sandlegs · Post by **Sandlegs** » Fri Jul 04, 2008 3:41 pm

2 friends and I still compete with each other for high score in River Raid!
.........I am not winning.

Post by **Ghegs** » Fri Jul 04, 2008 3:55 pm

Sandlegs wrote:2 friends and I still compete with each other for high score in River Raid!

...that's quite awesome, actually. I wish I had friends like that.

I have played with my Famicom and PC Engine quite a lot lately. And I have a lot games left for those two consoles I still wish to conquer.

Herr Schatten · Post by **Herr Schatten** » Fri Jul 04, 2008 4:47 pm

Shatterhand wrote:no limits to me.

Michaelm · Post by **Michaelm** » Fri Jul 04, 2008 5:06 pm

Visually I'd say it starts to look cool at 16bit.
But Aztec Challenge for example is still a nice 8 bit game.
There are some other C64 gems I can remember that would certainly still be a lot of fun to play now.

PROMETHEUS · Post by **PROMETHEUS** » Fri Jul 04, 2008 5:22 pm

zinger wrote:I like games from circa 1985 and on best, because their stage designs are usually more complex and elaborate (read depth).

You have to be kidding -_-;;

Mortificator · Post by **Mortificator** » Fri Jul 04, 2008 5:42 pm

No limits.

A phrase I see in a lot of articles that refer to old games is that they were "good for their time." That kind of dumbassery's to be expected considering the competence of most people writing game reviews, but it's funny to think of it applied to, say movies. 12 Angry Men was good for its time, but it just doesn't compare to modern marvels like White Chicks!

But I can't fault people who have trouble getting into the old stuff. It's like exposing someone who's only heard current pop to Pink Floyd, or the Beatles, or Motzart. He'd have to almost condition himself to listen, but it'd be worth it.

kozo · Post by **kozo** » Fri Jul 04, 2008 6:16 pm

Herr Schatten wrote:
Shatterhand wrote:no limits to me.

elfhentaifan · Post by **elfhentaifan** » Fri Jul 04, 2008 6:21 pm

Bomberman 96 for Genesis, so there is no limit

Turrican · Post by **Turrican** » Fri Jul 04, 2008 6:28 pm

Herr Schatten wrote:
Shatterhand wrote:no limits to me.

Ceph · Post by **Ceph** » Fri Jul 04, 2008 6:50 pm

For a good game, age doesn't matter. Gaming is about gameplay, not graphics.

DC906270 · Post by **DC906270** » Fri Jul 04, 2008 6:54 pm

there are a lot of great NES titles, SMS pretty pap tho

boagman · Post by **boagman** » Fri Jul 04, 2008 7:09 pm

Sandlegs wrote:2 friends and I still compete with each other for high score in River Raid!
.........I am not winning.

My word...this was *exactly* the game I was thining about from the Atari era!

Especially on a forum like this, a game like River Raid *must* be appreciated for what it is: a pinnacle of shmup design at the time, and one which continues to shine some 25+ years later.

Playing this game with friends/family way back in the day was a big old event for school kids. Using that horrible, horrible Atari joystick to maneuver through the tight, narrow passages that came later in the game was just cruel-to-be-kind fun. I imagine that playing it with a modern-day 8-way microswitch joystick would remove part of the included handicap, but it sure would be nice!

Oh, and for those who think that women aren't shmup people: River Raid was *designed* by a woman! What a triumph of a game. Activision really showed Atari a thing or fifteen about how games were done. I don't think that Atari ever really recovered after the release of Pitfall!

iatneH · Post by **iatneH** » Fri Jul 04, 2008 7:09 pm

I guess I consider myself to be a graphics whore, since I find most NES stuff and even PC-Engine HuCARDs to look terribly dated.

Even early Genesis stuff puts me off sometimes, though I'm fine with pretty much anything on the SNES.

For arcade stuff, I think post-1989 is where things start to look real good. I love the artworks of Toaplan stuff like OutZone.

CIT · Post by **CIT** » Fri Jul 04, 2008 7:32 pm

Pre 1984 there are not so many interesting games for me. Game systems are generally not evolved enough yet, and graphics are too abstract. However, this time also produced some classics, such as Qix and Robotron, that are remarkably complex and use abstraction to its fullest advantage.

jpj · Post by **jpj** » Fri Jul 04, 2008 8:24 pm

16-bit.

Damocles · Post by **Damocles** » Fri Jul 04, 2008 8:31 pm

16-bit era looks the best to me. That being said, SNES graphics generally don't look "right" to me. Too bright, maybe?

The Coop · Post by **The Coop** » Fri Jul 04, 2008 8:50 pm

I don't have a limit for consoles or arcade. Doesn't matter what year it's from, or if it's on the Fairchild Channel F, Vectrex, Atari XE, GBA or the XBox. If it's fun, I'll give it a play.

If you want to talk about favorite eras, 16bit would probably be mine. Lots of classics that I still play often today. 8bit and 32bit would be vying for second favorite era.

Nuke · Post by **Nuke** » Fri Jul 04, 2008 8:53 pm

8-bit era in consoles, Space Invaders in arcade.

professor ganson · Post by **professor ganson** » Fri Jul 04, 2008 9:26 pm

I grew up on the first arcade games and Atari, but I can only return to the former. NES is my limit for consoles. I've tried Atari again a few times and the controls were too awful. Even the SMS is a problem for me because I hate the controllers.

kengou · Post by **kengou** » Fri Jul 04, 2008 9:29 pm

Pretty much anything before NES, is just too old for me. Atari's blocky abstract graphics and (generally) really crappy gameplay/controls just prevent any enjoyment.

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