Your political compass

Twiddle · Post by **Twiddle** » Sat May 31, 2008 8:09 pm

also liberal and conservative mean different things in different countries, as in some countries in Europe the popular conservative party is identical to the Democratic Party

JoshF · Post by **JoshF** » Sat May 31, 2008 9:28 pm

Some people need to die, and people shouldn't be expected to pay for a serial killer's room service. That money could be better used on programs with deterring effects and ending the prison industrial complex and wrongful convictions. I guess this opinion is what kept me from falling off the edge of the graph but I don't see it as a left/right issue.

The n00b · Post by **The n00b** » Sat May 31, 2008 10:04 pm

Cool I share almost the same values as George W. Bush, Hitler, and various others with fascist tendencies... AMERICAN EMPIRE, BABY!

trivial · Post by **trivial** » Sat May 31, 2008 10:16 pm

JoshF wrote:Some people need to die

this always grates like a gruff whinge, like Carrie Bradshaw talking about her needs

JoshF · Post by **JoshF** » Sat May 31, 2008 10:28 pm

Save some of that compassion for killers for their victims. Think about them and how much compassion they were shown.

trivial · Post by **trivial** » Sat May 31, 2008 10:32 pm

Compassion? I don't feel compassionate for killers or victims unless they suffer. Is that wrong?

Twiddle · Post by **Twiddle** » Sat May 31, 2008 11:18 pm

Yeah it's not like one party has committed anything particularly malicious or bad or anything

trivial · Post by **trivial** » Sat May 31, 2008 11:20 pm

We were talking about what it meant to the involved parties, I thought? Does a corpse want to be avenged?

Twiddle · Post by **Twiddle** » Sat May 31, 2008 11:24 pm

Yeah I'm pretty sure those Holocaust subjects are doing just fine

JoshF · Post by **JoshF** » Sat May 31, 2008 11:24 pm

By showing compassion to a murderer you are showing the opposite for their victims.

trivial · Post by **trivial** » Sat May 31, 2008 11:27 pm

"With us or against us" shows why communism and fascism are both completely wrong. That it is wishful thinking that somewhere in the continuum they define, a happy medium exists.

JoshF · Post by **JoshF** » Sat May 31, 2008 11:29 pm

Happy medium from Mr. -9. That phrase has nothing to do with communism (or capitalism really) it's about authoritarianism which both sides can be a part of.

trivial · Post by **trivial** » Sat May 31, 2008 11:30 pm

I have no problem with anything you just said.
I just don't like the Lorax running my life, is all.

Twiddle · Post by **Twiddle** » Sat May 31, 2008 11:31 pm

There's a happy medium in mass murder

it's how long mass murder can continue before it stops being funny

JoshF · Post by **JoshF** » Sat May 31, 2008 11:35 pm

wtf lorax?

Twiddle · Post by **Twiddle** » Sat May 31, 2008 11:37 pm

It's the hypothetical invading alien force.

JoshF · Post by **JoshF** » Sat May 31, 2008 11:39 pm

lou dobbs viewer wtf?

Super Laydock · Post by **Super Laydock** » Sat May 31, 2008 11:40 pm

JoshF wrote:By showing compassion to a murderer you are showing the opposite for their victims.

No, you are only showing the murderers how they should have treated other people in the first place. Even some of the worst people need some compassion.

It'll only confront them with the aspect of life they missed the most.

JoshF · Post by **JoshF** » Sat May 31, 2008 11:41 pm

Guess what part of life their victims miss.

Again, that money could be better used on social programs for non-murderers which coincidentally would deter murder.

Super Laydock · Post by **Super Laydock** » Sat May 31, 2008 11:53 pm

JoshF wrote:Guess what part of life their victims miss.

erm, ... the rest?

Anyway, even in the case of someone murdering someone else or even multiple people there should be no need to degrade oneself into becoming someone of "his" standards.

Zebra Airforce · Post by **Zebra Airforce** » Sat May 31, 2008 11:54 pm

Can't we turn prisoners into slaves and have them make us a profit? We could use their bodies as farms for exotic insects.

Twiddle · Post by **Twiddle** » Sat May 31, 2008 11:55 pm

If the murderer has indeed killed more than one person it is impossible to lower to his standards

You can only kill one of that guy for that particular case

Super Laydock · Post by **Super Laydock** » Sat May 31, 2008 11:58 pm

Twiddle wrote:If the murderer has indeed killed more than one person it is impossible to lower to his standards

You can only kill one of that guy for that particular case

very sharp!

btw:

http://www.politicalcompass.org/printab ... &soc=-5.95

JoshF · Post by **JoshF** » Sun Jun 01, 2008 12:06 am

Lowering to a murderer's standard would be killing an innocent person not the guilty one.

SpooN · Post by **SpooN** » Sun Jun 01, 2008 12:14 am

Mmmh, took the test some time ago and got something -2,-2ish but I'll agree that a lot of questions were phrased in a way that leaves no real options.
I'd consider myself to be rather right for my age and upbringing (I'd take the conserative part in a discussion with my parents).
But probably my understanding of "right" and "left" is a lot different than it is in the USA (since a state health insurance is a pretty undisputed given here).

As for the elitist side discussion:
Being humble is fine and all but let's face it, we all measure the "worth" of people around us in one way or another (the worth of a serial killer is for example considered to be very low by JoshF). I'd guess many people who appear humble in public are arrogant to the bone and if it comes to a subject where someone is expert I think he has a right to show it (which might result in appearing arrogant).

Death penalty...
While revenge is an archaic concept that should not be instrumentalised, I see the bigger problem in the possibility of mistakes. To prevent mistakes the whole process is long and costy and I'd not be surprised if the general death candidate costs more than a longtime prisoner.

Neon · Post by **Neon** » Sun Jun 01, 2008 3:17 am

The death penalty is soft on crime. I'd much prefer an instant, painless death to spending decades getting fucked in the ass and beaten

Super Laydock · Post by **Super Laydock** » Sun Jun 01, 2008 1:23 pm

Neon wrote:The death penalty is soft on crime. I'd much prefer an instant, painless death to spending decades getting fucked in the ass and beaten

Yes.

JoshF · Post by **JoshF** » Sun Jun 01, 2008 5:13 pm

You'd start liking it after a while.

Super Laydock · Post by **Super Laydock** » Sun Jun 01, 2008 5:15 pm

JoshF wrote:You'd start liking it after a while.

You'd probably not be able to sit down to think about it though...

CStarFlare · Post by **CStarFlare** » Sun Jun 01, 2008 6:20 pm

Bitches can be on top