Teaching human evolution

320x240 · Post by **320x240** » Mon May 26, 2008 2:51 pm

JoshF wrote:Ed, you don't support the idea of an Irish republic?

Union

dpful · Post by **dpful** » Mon May 26, 2008 4:03 pm

What the heck are you talking about? So asking questions about the world around us is an enemy to free thought? Do you know what an enemy to free thought is? Not thinking. Any form of study which encourages inquiry into the world around us and ASKS US TO ASK QUESTIONS can't possibly be an enemy to free thought.

Beyond the logical error, you still need to explain your claim and give evidence. Why is learning about biology an enemy toward free thought?

Science is the enemy of dumb thought, though

Koa Zo · Post by **Koa Zo** » Mon May 26, 2008 5:11 pm

Ceph wrote: Sorry mate, but someone who doesn't practice or believe in God is certainly not a Christian.

Who are you to judge who is a Christian?!
I do not believe in the God purported by the Bible.
Yet I gennerally follow the teachings of Christ.

Am I any less a Christian than those who fervently praise their god and attend church like clockwork, yet live a life of hypocrisy and judgment of others?

320x240 · Post by **320x240** » Mon May 26, 2008 5:49 pm

I see ugly approaching fast. I'm outa here!

antron · Post by **antron** » Mon May 26, 2008 7:18 pm

Koa Zo wrote:
Ceph wrote: Sorry mate, but someone who doesn't practice or believe in God is certainly not a Christian.
Who are you to judge who is a Christian?!
I do not believe in the God purported by the Bible.
Yet I gennerally follow the teachings of Christ.

Am I any less a Christian than those who fervently praise their god and attend church like clockwork, yet live a life of hypocrisy and judgment of others?

Right. I think Gandhi was the greatest Christian of the 20th century. Pope John Paul might have agreed. This current pope would call me a heretic.

Twiddle · Post by **Twiddle** » Mon May 26, 2008 9:12 pm

Lordstar wrote:I recall there was some kind of check list the Nazi Germans used to have for who was more "pure" than others. there was a study of it a few years back and apparently it was pretty hard to achieve perfection. But the bone structure which was described most furthest from a monkey would be actually be the Inuit people. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inuit

But they're brown.

Ed Oscuro · Post by **Ed Oscuro** » Tue May 27, 2008 12:41 am

320x240 wrote:
Ed Oscuro wrote:My pants are in a knot
A little lighthearted jest and you start acting like a unionist leader.

I'm acting like the people who want to punch me when I'm acting like you, that's all. Good to see you took it the right way though :lol:

320x240 wrote:Over here though, the situation is different, simply because noone cares about science at all.

Even the scientists?

p.s.

Randorama · Post by **Randorama** » Tue May 27, 2008 1:58 am

I demand a luddist site entirely in flash, given the state of this topic.

Neon · Post by **Neon** » Tue May 27, 2008 3:12 am

Super Laydock wrote:
Twiddle wrote:The Nazis used science, therefore it's bad.
It´s about the only redeeming part for the Nazi´s.

Rocket technology and even the Nuclear bomb could be traced back to `their` scientists...

Towards the end of the war, vast amounts of resources were directed towards the creation of superweapons that had the potential to prevent Nazi Germany's certain defeat. The jet fighter, V-2 Rocket, and nuclear reactor are due to Hitler and friends being desperate not to lose, rather than any particular friendliness towards science. Before then, they looked most favorably on junk science that attempted to explain the percieved superiority of the white race and tried to discredit Einstein on the basis of his being a Jew.

tl;dr necessity is the mother of invention. The Nazis had no redeeming qualities save being good at propaganda and bringing in high ratings for the History channel (how many fucking documentaries can you make on a 12 year period?!)

CMoon - Your concern is admirable, and I'd say definitely try to reach out, but past a certain point you'll have to accept that you can't help people who don't want to be helped. You could write a book that explicitly laid out how to be a genius ninja who could fly, wail out on his guitar, and constantly pork babes, but some people just would not read it, even in the face of it totally working (as evidenced by you and your friends wailing out, shagging hot wimminz, and roundhouse kicking at the same time!!!!)

CMoon · Post by **CMoon** » Tue May 27, 2008 10:07 am

Neon wrote: CMoon - Your concern is admirable, and I'd say definitely try to reach out, but past a certain point you'll have to accept that you can't help people who don't want to be helped.

The irony of course is that human evolution is part of the standard science curriculum. That isn't to say you'd hit it in every HS biology class, but it is there in the standards.

trivial · Post by **trivial** » Tue May 27, 2008 8:51 pm

You get to human origins in high school bio about as often as you get to contemporary lit in high school English. At least around here. I knew a smidge of primatology before college, but that's cause I was a nerd, not because it was "taught".

"Australopithecine" was a new word to me when I took anthro, and I had the advantage of two zoo-majoring parents. I'll bet it's the same now.

what do you think of Larissa Kelly?
I think I ignored the mousy ones in grad skool

Ozymandiaz1260 · Post by **Ozymandiaz1260** » Tue May 27, 2008 9:20 pm

Koa Zo wrote:
Ceph wrote: Sorry mate, but someone who doesn't practice or believe in God is certainly not a Christian.
Who are you to judge who is a Christian?!
I do not believe in the God purported by the Bible.
Yet I gennerally follow the teachings of Christ.

Am I any less a Christian than those who fervently praise their god and attend church like clockwork, yet live a life of hypocrisy and judgment of others?

Yes.