newbie-friendly shmups?

Kaspal · Post by **Kaspal** » Wed Nov 21, 2007 1:34 am

rolins wrote:How about Strikers 1945?

good game imho, but i preffer Strikers 1945 plus or strikers 1945 II

shoe-sama · Post by **shoe-sama** » Wed Nov 21, 2007 1:36 am

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moozooh · Post by **moozooh** » Wed Nov 21, 2007 4:15 am

For forgiving learning curve, rRootage normal/psy mode, and probably Titanion modern mode from Kenta Cho.

For instant visual/audial appeal, Touhou 10: Mountain of Faith, and Jets'n'Guns Gold. Their production quality and pathetic difficulty will keep a newb playing until their affection passes over to the genre in general.

shoe-sama · Post by **shoe-sama** » Wed Nov 21, 2007 4:34 am

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Pixel_Outlaw · Post by **Pixel_Outlaw** » Wed Nov 21, 2007 4:41 am

I think somebody has suffered head trauma about a two weeks ago.

sfried · Post by **sfried** » Sun Nov 25, 2007 7:30 am

moozooh wrote:For instant visual/audial appeal, Touhou 10: Mountain of Faith, and Jets'n'Guns Gold. Their production quality and pathetic difficulty will keep a newb playing until their affection passes over to the genre in general.

I would NEVER recommend a Touhou game for newbie players.

MX7 · Post by **MX7** » Sun Nov 25, 2007 12:58 pm

sfried wrote:
moozooh wrote:For instant visual/audial appeal, Touhou 10: Mountain of Faith, and Jets'n'Guns Gold. Their production quality and pathetic difficulty will keep a newb playing until their affection passes over to the genre in general.
I would NEVER recommend a Touhou game for newbie players.

Why not? I wouldn't describe their difficulty as 'pathetic', but they're still

A: At the easier end of the spectrum,

B: Very well presented with great art direction and music, and

C: They're generally very cheap and easy to get running!

The Coop · Post by **The Coop** » Sun Nov 25, 2007 8:21 pm

Thunder Force III and Verytex come to mind. They're pretty easy Genesis/MegaDrive shmups. Power Strike and Power Strike II on the Master System aren't very hard either.

DC906270 · Post by **DC906270** » Sun Nov 25, 2007 9:15 pm

Strikers 1945 and Gunbird

Maybe Sengoku Blaede or Ace too

sfried · Post by **sfried** » Wed Nov 28, 2007 10:18 am

DJ Rectal Prolapse wrote:
sfried wrote:
moozooh wrote:For instant visual/audial appeal, Touhou 10: Mountain of Faith, and Jets'n'Guns Gold. Their production quality and pathetic difficulty will keep a newb playing until their affection passes over to the genre in general.
I would NEVER recommend a Touhou game for newbie players.
Why not? I wouldn't describe their difficulty as 'pathetic', but they're still

A: At the easier end of the spectrum,

B: Very well presented with great art direction and music, and

C: They're generally very cheap and easy to get running!

A: Danmaku are not noob friendly

B: Too hell with ZUN in his deformed moeblob girls and artstyle

C: Depends if you have the translation patch. Otherwise, the way it's coded might require AppLocale. There are "free-er" doujins that can simply be runned off the executable.

moozooh · Post by **moozooh** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 2:51 am

sfried wrote:I would NEVER recommend a Touhou game for newbie players.

I actually was a newbie when I started playing Touhou games, so I know what I'm talking about. But whatever you're (not) doing, it's fine with me.

shoe-sama · Post by **shoe-sama** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 3:08 am

sfried wrote:
DJ Rectal Prolapse wrote:
sfried wrote: I would NEVER recommend a Touhou game for newbie players.
Why not? I wouldn't describe their difficulty as 'pathetic', but they're still

A: At the easier end of the spectrum,

B: Very well presented with great art direction and music, and

C: They're generally very cheap and easy to get running!
A: Danmaku are not noob friendly

B: Too hell with ZUN in his deformed moeblob girls and artstyle

C: Depends if you have the translation patch. Otherwise, the way it's coded might require AppLocale. There are "free-er" doujins that can simply be runned off the executable.

1) slow bullets
2) lots of bombs

a noob would progress much further in one than something like gradius or ddp or something cuz like lol the bullets are slow enough for everyone and their grandma to react to

While with gradius or something they'd be liek zomg i die how dat happen lol

escadrille · Post by **escadrille** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 5:26 am

Something really attractive-looking, with a difficulty that starts out easy, even if it ramps up a bit later on. Progear would be a great introduction to the genre.

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unsane · Post by **unsane** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 6:03 am

escadrille wrote:Something really attractive-looking, with a difficulty that starts out easy, even if it ramps up a bit later on. Progear would be a great introduction to the genre.

I don't know if it's just me, but i am absolutely hopeless at Progear. I doubt i'll ever finish stage 2.

escadrille · Post by **escadrille** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 9:07 pm

unsane wrote:
escadrille wrote:Something really attractive-looking, with a difficulty that starts out easy, even if it ramps up a bit later on. Progear would be a great introduction to the genre.

I don't know if it's just me, but i am absolutely hopeless at Progear. I doubt i'll ever finish stage 2.

Strange. I consider myself a pretty weak player, but Progear was the first game I could really wail on.

I guess this reinforces the idea that "newbies" should be won over with good graphics and sound, since play styles and which games are easy/hard are more subjective.

unsane · Post by **unsane** » Sat Dec 01, 2007 3:12 am

escadrille wrote:Strange. I consider myself a pretty weak player, but Progear was the first game I could really wail on.

I guess this reinforces the idea that "newbies" should be won over with good graphics and sound, since play styles and which games are easy/hard are more subjective.

Hmm well i just gave it another go and got to stage 3 after ~8 tries. I think the problems were:

- when i played it before i didn't have a gamepad - hori's are difficult using keyboard W and S
- i don't really like Progear so i never gave it very many tries

Pirate1019 · Post by **Pirate1019** » Sat Dec 01, 2007 5:24 pm

Give them something that is really satisfying to play. Like Giga Wing or Mars Matrix. Lotsa shinies.