Official: Mushihime-sama Futari (1.0, 1.5, BLT)

EOJ · Post by **EOJ** » Sat Sep 01, 2007 3:34 am

Well it probably depends on the game, but I remember Treasure said the theoretical maximum for Normal mode in Ikaruga was 36mil, and that was long before anyone came near that (WIZ eventually reached 36mil, just barely).

I think the designers have a pretty good idea of the max scores possible once they finish the game. I mean, they know all the math behind it. But you're right, they probably don't sit down and say, "let's make a game with a maximum high score of 1 billion!" when they set out to create a game.

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Sat Sep 01, 2007 6:03 am

I think it becomes exponentially harder in games where the bullets become points, and there can be hundreds of them on screen at one time. Sure they can plug in some numbers, but there's gotta be a little chaos theory involved in such a game.

EOJ · Post by **EOJ** » Thu Sep 20, 2007 4:10 am

A new update on the Cave festival site:

http://www.cave.co.jp/event/fes200709/index.html

All 5 of the players on the DVD will be at the festival along with Mihara and Ikeda, and will talk with the fans in attendance. So you'll have ISO, TAC, NAL, SWY, and KK with Mihara and Ikeda. Basically the top players in Japan all in one room. Man, now I really wish I could go to that.

Also, if you go make sure you bring your DS. That's the only way you'll be able to play Ketsui DS (it will be a timed download only available at the event, there won't be any DS's to play there).

hermosaguy · Post by **hermosaguy** » Thu Sep 20, 2007 6:06 am

EOJ wrote:A new update on the Cave festival site:

http://www.cave.co.jp/event/fes200709/index.html

All 5 of the players on the DVD will be at the festival along with Mihara and Ikeda, and will talk with the fans in attendance. So you'll have ISO, TAC, NAL, SWY, and KK with Mihara and Ikeda. Basically the top players in Japan all in one room. Man, now I really wish I could go to that.

Also, if you go make sure you bring your DS. That's the only way you'll be able to play Ketsui DS (it will be a timed download only available at the event, there won't be any DS's to play there).

Do any of those top players work at Cave? Do any of them have a website? I was trying to look for Clover-TAC's a while back but just couldn't find anything. Heck, even if they have a myspace page that would be cool! I'd just be curious of their thoughts on some games.

EOJ · Post by **EOJ** » Thu Sep 20, 2007 6:19 am

No, they don't work for Cave. They don't have any websites either, afaik. Might be hidden under another guise, though.

Zebra Airforce · Post by **Zebra Airforce** » Thu Sep 20, 2007 6:27 am

GaijinPunch wrote:I think it becomes exponentially harder in games where the bullets become points, and there can be hundreds of them on screen at one time. Sure they can plug in some numbers, but there's gotta be a little chaos theory involved in such a game.

Well, they know how many frames an enemy persists onscreen, how many bullets they fire per frame and when they start firing, etc. So I think they can get it just about exact. It owuld be rally hard to calculate, but I guees if they WANTED too..

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Thu Sep 20, 2007 6:50 am

I guess they just closed the deal on the players. The flyers they were handing out at the AM Show only said Ikeda & Mihara would be talking. Glad they have the times posted... not sure if I will stick around until 15:00.

Hmm... new Ketsui goods. Wonder what the odds of arcade osters showing up are. I'm starting to think the stuff for sale won't be nearly as impressive as last time.

zakk · Post by **zakk** » Thu Sep 20, 2007 10:31 am

GaijinPunch wrote: Hmm... new Ketsui goods. Wonder what the odds of arcade osters showing up are. I'm starting to think the stuff for sale won't be nearly as impressive as last time.

They're going to re-image the Ketsui pilots as loligoths and sell you pictures and panties. That has to be it, yep.

Fu · Post by Fu » Thu Sep 20, 2007 10:37 am

Hey GaijinPunch you will take feedback from the event right ?

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Thu Sep 20, 2007 11:03 am

Fu wrote:Hey GaijinPunch you will take feedback from the event right ?

I'm sure I'll post something (pictures and words) but not sure how long I can stay. Real life will most likely get in the way.

Fu · Post by Fu » Thu Sep 20, 2007 11:04 am

Okay thank you. Because it would be really amazing if I could see Clover-TAC.

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Fri Sep 21, 2007 5:28 pm

The blog gionmatsuli posted in the Death Smiles thread has a nice nugget at the end. Mushihime-sama Futari v1.0 at MIkado in Shinjuku has Ultra Mode unlocked. Says that it's essentially the same as v1.5 but the character movement is the same as in the first version, which makes using Palm a bitch. Pretty wild that it is in fact in there though.

EOJ · Post by **EOJ** » Fri Sep 21, 2007 7:08 pm

GaijinPunch wrote:The blog gionmatsuli posted in the Death Smiles thread has a nice nugget at the end. Mushihime-sama Futari v1.0 at MIkado in Shinjuku has Ultra Mode unlocked. Says that it's essentially the same as v1.5 but the character movement is the same as in the first version, which makes using Palm a bitch. Pretty wild that it is in fact in there though.

Amazing. They don't say how it was unlocked though.
Pretty incredible it took nearly a year to unlock it. And Cave didn't even mention it existed.

Post by **Icarus** » Fri Sep 21, 2007 7:13 pm

EOJ wrote:Amazing. They don't say how it was unlocked though.
Pretty incredible it took nearly a year to unlock it. And Cave didn't even mention it existed.

Time release?

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 2:40 am

A year seems a bit long for a time release. I'll ask next time I'm in there. Wonder if they'll spill the beans.

EDIT: Movement above is a bad translation. Characteristics is better. I assume they refer to Palm not being able to jack certain enemies quickly, or at all w/o bombing.

Post by **Icarus** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 3:04 am

GaijinPunch wrote:A year seems a bit long for a time release. I'll ask next time I'm in there. Wonder if they'll spill the beans.

Raiden Fighters 2 has quite a long time release (for ships) as well, so it's not unheard of, just not seen that often

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 2:00 pm

Official DVD

sven666 · Post by **sven666** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 2:04 pm

GaijinPunch wrote:Official DVD

aah there are none on yahoo now.. got a spare one GP?

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 2:19 pm

Not really, but they go on sale online on Tuesday.

EOJ · Post by **EOJ** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 6:08 am

For those interested, I have posted my review of Mushihime-sama Futari Versions 1.0 and 1.5. If you want to read it, go to the reviews section of my blog (click on "my reviews" on the left panel):

http://danmakudreams.blogspot.com

Hope you enjoy it. Feedback would be appreciated it!

hermosaguy · Post by **hermosaguy** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 6:20 am

EOJ wrote:For those interested, I have posted the first English language review of Mushihime-sama Futari Versions 1.0 and 1.5. If you want to read it, go to the reviews section of my blog (click on "my reviews" on the left panel):

http://danmakudreams.blogspot.com

Hope you enjoy it. Feedback would be appreciated it!

Very cool review. Now it gets me wanting to try out 1.0 to compare the two.

Shalashaska · Post by **Shalashaska** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 6:54 am

Nice read EOJ. Are 1.0 kits still available at all and do they run about the same price as a 1.5 kit? Any word yet on differences (if any) between Ultra mode in the two versions?

EOJ · Post by **EOJ** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 6:55 am

Thanks guys.

1.0 kits can still be had, they just aren't advertised. Try contacting Fujita, ECL, and the like and inquire. They get 1.0 boards from time to time. They are basically the same price as 1.5 boards.

No word on how Ultra 1.0 is different from 1.5 yet, well nothing really concrete at least. I'd love to see a video of it, to look for any differences!

hermosaguy · Post by **hermosaguy** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 7:04 am

Was there more info on how that mode can be unlocked? It might be worth picking up for the board only if its a whole new experience.

EOJ · Post by **EOJ** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 7:15 am

Not yet, as far as I know. I think it's either a timer thing (which might take ages), or you have to clear it 100+ times, like how Mushi's Ultra mode was unlocked.

sven666 · Post by **sven666** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 7:17 am

EOJ wrote:Not yet, as far as I know. I think it's either a timer thing (which might take ages), or you have to clear it 100+ times, like how Mushi's Ultra mode was unlocked.

mushis ultra was unlocked by 1CCing maniac wasent it??

whats to say 1.0 Ultra isnt a spoof (we saw plenty before the release of 1.5), is there any proof?

EOJ · Post by **EOJ** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 7:30 am

sven666 wrote:
mushis ultra was unlocked by 1CCing maniac wasent it??

No, you have to 1CC Original 100 times, or Maniac mode 50 times. Then you have to enter the code.

I doubt 1.0 Ultra is a spoof since it's sitting in an arcade in Shinjuku, and people are playing it every day! I guess GP might be able to confirm it next time he stops by the arcade.

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 9:11 am

Yeah, just gotta get some time on my hands and go. It's a great arcade.
http://www.gamengai.com/bn_inf.php?type=article&id=1619

Radiant · Post by **Radiant** » Thu Sep 27, 2007 9:08 am

is the guide book always inclusive or was this lim?
http://cave.shop-pro.jp/?pid=4504812 can't see it here?
and also is it sold out ??:? i'm confused now

EOJ · Post by **EOJ** » Thu Sep 27, 2007 9:44 am

Radiant wrote:is the guide book always inclusive or was this lim?
http://cave.shop-pro.jp/?pid=4504812 can't see it here?
and also is it sold out ??:? i'm confused now

Yes, the book came with all the DVDs. And yes it sold out in one day! I see they are already fetching 12,000 yen or so on YJ.

The scary thing is Play-asia still has not listed this, so they may not be getting copies of it this time, like they did with the Galuda 2 DVD.

My copy came today, but I was not home to sign for it. I'll pick it up tomorrow or friday at the post office. Really looking forward to watching it.
Will post some impressions for those interested.