What school did these guys go to?

[TKGB_Mental_Gear]

Damn. No wonder Bush is still president for a second term.

Though I have to say, too, that this is not the opinion of a nation but just a small group who probably don't know much. You could say that the questions they were seen answering wrong are the only ones which they knew not of the answer yet could of answered all others correctly. OI!

And as for the guy who said a triangle has 4 sides, I pity him for being a dumb ass.

[neorichieb1971]

If we all be honest the internet is now THE source of our educational lives.

We go to school not only for answers, but to be questioned, so that we as a human race can teach ourselves to learn. Afterall, anyone who comes to this forum did not learn about shmups from school or the media. They taught themselves how to search the answers themselves.

In that video, it is safe to assume the questions were not associated with their interests. I admit alot of the answers were passively passed onto me by people to whom they are interesting subjects. We only assume the people are dumb because the media and internet is saturated with that subject matter. It is a shame though, that alot of these people blindly vote for something that they have no idea about. Its amazing how people can have so much passion towards a cause they don't even understand. But oh well!

[Sonic R]

btw - This thread is set to go places . WWII, UKvsUSA, ignorant people, women drivers. All we need now is siebzehn.

You forget USA automobiles VS Japan automobiles
The real Winner are German engineered automobiles ^_~

[neorichieb1971]

btw - This thread is set to go places . WWII, UKvsUSA, ignorant people, women drivers. All we need now is siebzehn.

You forget USA automobiles VS Japan automobiles
The real Winner are German engineered automobiles ^_~

I can tell you what the Americans are good at. Sublime food, beautfiul women, partying and they get A+++++ for hospitality. There that evens things up a bit . Don't know about their music tastes though.

[neorichieb1971]

Metallica lead singer get arrested for having a beard

http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/show/80974.html

[PaCrappa]

If there was one thing I did not want this thread to be, is personal. Is that how you want it to be? Could you not have a laugh about this over a beer in a bar?

Richie, I have posted alongside you at message boards for years. We have always gotten along perfectly and I definitely have no problem with you. But you sort of went sideways from your stated intent in the original post.

Please allow me to summarize.

You open the thread with a simple statement along the lines of "if the shoe fits wear it but since it doesn't let's all just have a laugh at the dunces together". Okay, that's great. Those people are certainly quite laughably stupid. Funny enough and I'm sure you meant well.

A few posts get rolling and everything is fine until the n00b gave you some light nationalistic razzing. It didn't look too painful to me but then you came back with this:

Also, America is one of those countries where quite a majority of the people don't give a crap about anything regarding what happens outside of their borders. Where as we (Brits) have always had the perspective of caring about what goes on anywhere in the world because everything affects us.

Now "If there was one thing you did not want this thread to be, is personal", why on Earth would you, the starter of the thread featuring a video made by English people attempting to prove Americans stupid, say that? You don't think that would/could/should be taken personally?

And then when called into court for your pompousness (quoted above) you rattle off something to the effect of "I know Americans are dumb because I been there and watched TV and listened to the radio and one time a drunk dude in a bar said some stupid shit about WWII while our countries were 'at war' (LOL) together in Iraq and those German dogs got off scott effin free because it don't pay to be the USA's ally".

wtf break here

So... finally... I choose to poke some good clean fun and bust you out a little for an apparent inability to make a proper contraction out of the phrase "would have" (it's "would've" not "would of" which makes no sense) in a thread where the theme seemed to be getting pushed slowly by its starter from "let's have a laugh at the retards" towards "England is better than the USA which is dumb and here's why". I was pointing out a little fun irony (smart representative of smart country with bad grammar, hee hee hee) and you thought I was focusing on nationalistic nonsense about WWII and Iraq. You have got to be kidding me.

Anyway, I had to run off yesterday but I wanted to come back and address the breakdown of communication. I haven't yet read any further than the post I quoted at the beginning of this one because that's where I left off yesterday. Maybe this thread turns out not so bad? I'll be staying out of it now, so there's that to be glad for

Pa

[neorichieb1971]

Pa,

I don't stereotype, I take everyone as an individual. That video was about individuals to me.

I don't think I actually made the statement that Britain was better, because I honestly don't believe that. We are just different with lots of room for improvement on both sides of the Atlantic.

I'm glad things are sorted.

[DEL]

Going back to the original post with the youtube street questionnaire, the same thing was done on an English high street a few years ago. The results weren't quite as bad, although I do remember that "What happened at Tienenmen Square?" did catch them out.

"What is the Coalition of the Willing?" was a strange question to throw in to the US questionnaire, I must admit .


The point that there are ignorant/uninformed people in every country is true.

Neorichieb 1971 wrote;

As many of you know I lived in the States for 7 years and just came back. I know what sort of standing alot of Americans have. Did you know that 70%ish of Congress do not have passports because they do not have the wish to leave the country?

70% of Congress not having passports does not instill me with confidence that they will care about what happens to (or in) other Countries .
If they did indeed drop depleted Uranium tipped bombs on Iraq during the Gulf War, then that's unnecessary and sick. Uranium contaminating the water supply and killing the population with cancer in an insidious way.

If those bombs weren't tipped with Uranium, then I take that statement back .

Please tell me they didn't .

[GaijinPunch]

"What is the Coalition of the Willing?" was a strange question to throw in to the US questionnaire, I must admit .

Isn't that what they're calling the group of countries that support the US on it's war of terror?

[neorichieb1971]

I think that statement should read "Coalition of the NOT so willing!".

Countries include USA, GB, France, Germany, Italy and a few others.

I am not sure if these countries would help overcome Iraq, but they are allies in the war against terrorism.

Japan and Spain have withdrew since the Iraq invasion started. So although you might be part of the willing, usually this means something really crappy has to happen before they will participate. Its about public opinion mostly.

DEL,

Uranium tipped missiles? Are you on the same channel mate?

[DEL]

Oh most definitely

Quote;
"It’s not safe now! Much of Iraq remains radiologically "hot" following undeclared nuclear attacks that have randomly distributed lethal air and food-borne radiation from Depleted Uranium (DU) munitions – without any mushroom clouds.

With a postwar toll of perhaps 650,000 deaths from lingering wounds, illness and DU exposure, Iraq has already suffered more radiation deaths than the 130,000 corpses produced at Hiroshima through American know-how and acute radiation exposure. [UN and Japanese figures]

The same type of uranium-tipped cruise missiles that carried cancer into Bosnia and Afghanistan will only add fresh "rems" to the radioactive dust of this distant desert land.

Even if resistance collapses following an urban bombardment unprecedented in scale, timing and ferocity, allied forces face the specter of severe casualties from the lethal legacy of their last munitions testing on the people of Iraq."

Eat THAT

source:-http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/THO302A.html

[neorichieb1971]

But DEL, America has just sent a 50,000 troops there, there is British troops in the South. Surely they wouldn't do that.

[DEL]

Surely they wouldn't do that eh?

The research group I copy/pasted from above says otherwise.

Plus, I myself remember a news report on UK tv that mentioned 'dirty bombs' with depleted Uranium having been dropped on Iraq during the Gulf War.

I remember it clearly.

Now the research group cooberates it.

This sheds new light of Gulf War Syndrome eh ?!

Do you remember the news reports on soldiers being injected with anti chemical attack drugs and being issued with chemical attack suits?

The US Force Command knew that they were dropping Uranium tipped bombs on Iraq at the time.

so......

Were these anti-chemical drugs being issued? Or Anti-Radiation drugs .
Is Gulf War Syndrome really ->radioactive poisoning?
Jacobs Ladder eh?

I have an Iraqi friend in London whose Aunt came over with Cancer and died shortly afterwards. His family says that tons of Iraqis are dying of cancer right now. They say it got into the water supply.
The research group says;

Much of Iraq remains radiologically "hot" following undeclared nuclear attacks that have randomly distributed lethal air and food-borne radiation from Depleted Uranium (DU) munitions – without any mushroom clouds.

^If you hear about something once, you may disbelieve it.
If you read about it again from a different source, you begin to fear its true.

Have I gone Off Topic? - No, because your statement about 70% of Congress not having or wanting passports, raises the fear that I've had for a while....that they don't care about what happens to people in far away Countries.

Sasha Baron Cohen alluded to this in BORAT, in that Rodeo speech.

The common man on the street not knowing his politics/geography (as in your topic video) doesn't matter too much. But the people in Power having an insular viewpoint does matter.

[Specineff]

And cue the can of worms...

[neorichieb1971]

DEL,

What I will say is that I won't deny its not feasible to assume such things happen in the world. Afterall what is all the weaponry in the world used for? Not storage I can tell you that.


Its made to be used.

[CIT]

Countries include USA, GB, France, Germany, Italy and a few others.

I am not sure if these countries would help overcome Iraq, but they are allies in the war against terrorism.

"Coalition of the willing" were the countries that were willing to assist the USA in invading Iraq and deposing Saddam. It is not an official term, but just a soundbite from one of Bush's speeches.

Countries included USA, UK, Italy, Spain, Poland, Denmark, Ukraine, etc.

France and Germany were never part of the coalition of the willing, hence Republicans decided to rename french fries "freedom fries".

[GaijinPunch]

France and Germany were never part of the coalition of the willing, hence Republicans decided to rename french fries "freedom fries".

Such dipshits. So scary that half a nation can be manipulated into boycotting a country (and calling them names) b/c they didn't want to participate in pillaging an entire country. Sounds like the "are you chicken?" bully in the playground.

[neorichieb1971]

France and Germany were never part of the coalition of the willing, hence Republicans decided to rename french fries "freedom fries".

Such dipshits. So scary that half a nation can be manipulated into boycotting a country (and calling them names) b/c they didn't want to participate in pillaging an entire country. Sounds like the "are you chicken?" bully in the playground.

GP,

That is a politically incorrect thing to say

[Specineff]

AT&T handing down data to the NSA.
The illegal wiretapping.
The National Security Letters.
The TSA "randomly" screening dark-skinned individuals.
Search engines (minus Google) handing out search data.

WHAT FREEDOM, DUBYA? WHAT FREEDOM!?

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

Good night, you all.

[GaijinPunch]

GP,

That is a politically incorrect thing to say

Which part? "dipshits"?

[neorichieb1971]

Well, as long as your prepared to have a slanging match I suppose thats alright.

[DEL]

neorichieb 1971 wrote;

DEL,

What I will say is that I won't deny its not feasible to assume such things happen in the world. Afterall what is all the weaponry in the world used for? Not storage I can tell you that.


Its made to be used.

I was talking about depleted Uranium tipped bombs.

The point is: why tip them with Uranium? -> For a nice orange afro

Looks like you're trying to excuse the use of radiological weapons on Iraq.

What if the same is done to where you live? You wouldn't be saying "Its made to be used." You'd be developing some nice form of cancer.
Its the sickest war crime yet, in my view.

[SpooN]

It would be nice to think that such an amount of ignorance would only be possible in the USA but sadly that's not true. To some extent I still like to stick to this prejudice because of stories I heard from friends doing a highschool year in the USA (I'm not very patriotic at all, but still it pisses me off if people don't know that Germany is a normal industrialized country).

But videos like that exist at least for Germans, too. I won't bother to search a youtube link because I doubt to find translated versions but be assured that ignorance is very common here as well.

A single example from first hand experience:
A girl in the same semester as me asked my history teacher:
"You are an Arab, right?"
"My father is Arab, my mother comes from Germany."
"Do you know Nabid?"
"No, why would I know him?"
"He's Arab, too."
And that was not a joke. Ok, that's more stupid than ignorant but that's even worse.

[Ceph]

What's a "Nabid"?

[Ceph]

Of course the people don't want war. But after all, it's the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it's always a simple matter to drag the people along whether it's a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to greater danger.

[neorichieb1971]

Well in N.Korea and places like China they have restricted media coverage which is propaganda. We have a free media (at least on the surface of things) and it doesn't do any greater job. Its the same result.

[DEL]

Back to the explanation of the original post;
http://youtube.com/watch?v=pfRUMmTs0ZA& ... ed&search=
^Has this one been posted yet?

[Acid King]

Did you know that 70%ish of Congress do not have passports because they do not have the wish to leave the country?

The United States has almost as much land as the whole European continent. Who cares if they don't want to leave the country? It's strange when foreigners complain about Americans and how they aren't international but the simple fact is it's simply not as cheap nor necessary for Americans to leave the country as it is in other parts of the world, especially in comparison to Europe. You can drive from London to Paris in 6 hours or so. It takes me six hours to drive across my goddamn state. And fuck if I try to order a hoagie in another state. They'll look at me like I'm retarded. Try ordering a po' boy in my horrible northeast accent.

[GaijinPunch]

but the simple fact is it's simply not as cheap nor necessary for Americans to leave the country as it is in other parts of the world

This is true to some extent, although flying isn't that expensive anymore. Seriously, if you wait around, you canget tickets to Europe for $700 or so... It used to be well over $1000 w/ a higher valued dollars.

But, even if you don't go abroad, I think each person owes it to themselves (and the rest of the world) to know what the fuck is going on in other countries...especially the one that is the self-appointed policeman. If we're going to go invading and poking our nose all over the place, the citizens need to be at least semi-aware of what's going on in said place.

[DEL]

GaijinPunch wrote;

But, even if you don't go abroad, I think each person owes it to themselves (and the rest of the world) to know what the fuck is going on in other countries...especially the one that is the self-appointed policeman. If we're going to go invading and poking our nose all over the place, the citizens need to be at least semi-aware of what's going on in said place.

Well said.


Acid King wrote;

It's strange when foreigners complain about Americans and how they aren't international but the simple fact is it's simply not as cheap nor necessary for Americans to leave the country as it is in other parts of the world, especially in comparison to Europe.

Its the old 'borders of America = the borders of the World' thing again.