Official: Mushihime-sama Futari (1.0, 1.5, BLT)

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Sat Jun 02, 2007 12:39 am

Yeah. ESPGaluda 2 can drag on. It's not like stage 6 is easy either. MUshi's stage 5 is pretty painfully long too though.

The thing thing about ESPGaluda II is that you can almost always rework your patterns for better score, but it's always harder for me to relearn something.

Gwyrgyn Blood · Post by **Gwyrgyn Blood** » Sat Jun 02, 2007 3:06 am

Alright, thanks for the run down guys. Hopefully I'll get to pick this up fairly soon, although I'm probably going to have to wait for another price drop first.

Geezer · Post by **Geezer** » Sun Jun 03, 2007 5:45 pm

Gwyrgyn Blood wrote:Alright, thanks for the run down guys. Hopefully I'll get to pick this up fairly soon, although I'm probably going to have to wait for another price drop first.

Legend just sent out a new price list. It's gone to $948 for a full kit+poster.
I still need it go down quite a bit further

Gwyrgyn Blood · Post by **Gwyrgyn Blood** » Mon Jun 04, 2007 2:31 am

Ahg yeah, that's still a little high for me too, I'm waiting for around 700$ or so. Shouldn't be too unreasonable since ESPG2 is only around 600$ right now.

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Mon Jun 04, 2007 3:36 am

ESPGaluda 2 floored at about $600 about a year ago I would say. I will likely be Futari if it gets that low, but at the moment, it's not on my to buy list.

EOJ · Post by **EOJ** » Mon Jun 04, 2007 3:44 am

GaijinPunch wrote:ESPGaluda 2 floored at about $600 about a year ago I would say.

Actually around 6 months ago.

I bought mine in August 2006 and it was $717. It was still $700 in September 06, but then had a few drops in Oct and Nov until it bottomed out to $600 in December.

Futari will probably bottom out at $700 or $600 like Galuda 2, probably around Sept/Oct 2007. I'd bet that Cave made a large amount of Futari boards, just like they did with Galuda 2. Since they know they won't port the game, they make more PCBs and sell the surplus at a large discount to turn a nice profit off the consumer around the time a port would have come out. It's a smart business strategy, and probably gives them more money than a port with far less work involved.

jpj · Post by **jpj** » Mon Jun 04, 2007 6:19 pm

i love it when you guys put your spin doctor hats on. "...they probably made too many of them". nice way of saying "it flopped a bit".

they must have made way too many ibara boards...

and isn't it AMI who distribute and sell the boards as opposed to Cave, on the premise that AMI take the financial risks/rewards...?

seriously though, this game seems quite popular. i suppose it depends if you're bothered about "full kit" stuff or not.

Geezer · Post by **Geezer** » Mon Jun 04, 2007 6:29 pm

Is Futari as popular in arcades as the original Mushi? Just wondering.

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Mon Jun 04, 2007 11:14 pm

Geezer wrote:Is Futari as popular in arcades as the original Mushi? Just wondering.

I've not checked any charts, but it seems to be doing quite well.

Post by **Icarus** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 5:26 pm

Just got my OST today, nice packaging. Artbook is very nice, I like the stage end illustrations and the poster artwork. Got some more useless keyrings now. Soundtrack is so much nicer in high quality without explosions and Reko screaming.

Funniest thing is the boss music is called "Beastly Throbbing"... guess it means something different to the Japanese. ^_^;;

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 11:49 pm

Icarus wrote: Funniest thing is the boss music is called "Beastly Throbbing"... guess it means something different to the Japanese. ^_^;;

The last boss track does nothing for me w/o the laughing, and of course, all the bullets.

This is coming from someone that can only get to the first wave of her second form in Maniac, but hey.

greg · Post by **greg** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 7:52 pm

Any possibility of seeing Mushihime Futari and Espgaluda 2 seeing the light of day on the Playstation2? Sorry if this was already discussed here, but I don't really want to search through 34 pages of conversation.

incognoscente · Post by **incognoscente** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 8:01 pm

Practically nil. Sorry, greg.

(Taito is not doing ports anymore, Arika is busy with other things, and Ikeda keeps putting more and more things into his games that make them unlikely to get along nicely with the Playstation 2.)

EOJ · Post by **EOJ** » Tue Aug 28, 2007 7:34 pm

Finally an official Mushihime-sama Futari superplay DVD will be released!
See message 5 on this site:

http://www.kobayan.jp/

It will be available for sale from Sept 25, at Cave's shop (apparently you can preorder from Sept 23-24). I hope Play-asia will get some of these like they did with the Galuda 2 dvd. I really want this DVD, can't wait to see some WR runs!

It will also come with an artbook. Price is 7,500 yen.

Also, if you go to buy it, they will have a special version of Mushi Futari for play, which you won't be able to play anywhere else.

Koma · Post by **Koma** » Tue Aug 28, 2007 8:26 pm

Great!

Thank for this onfo EOJ

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Wed Aug 29, 2007 12:48 am

Curious about the Ultra replay. What's the WR w/ default extends? I can't imagine anyone clearing it yet.

zlk · Post by **zlk** » Wed Aug 29, 2007 12:59 am

I think SWY cleared it with default extends ages ago.

EOJ · Post by **EOJ** » Wed Aug 29, 2007 1:30 am

Normal Reco Ultra WR is by SWY, as zlk mentioned. It's about 2.7 billion (ALL CLEAR), iirc. Was done months ago. The WR with Abnormal Palm (and the top score in this mode overall) is by Dame K.K. and it's about 2.9 billion, I believe. Also an all-clear on defaults, and it's more recent (but still at least a few months ago). I think one other guy may have cleared it on defaults, but it may just be these two.

EDIT: By the way, this should be another 3 DVD set, one DVD for each mode. Hopefully they will have both a Reco and a Palm run for each mode on each disc, for a total of 6 replays.

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Thu Aug 30, 2007 4:33 am

The book will have 100 pages, 60 of which will be in full color. It will also be on sale via Cave's online shop as well.

There will be a shop there like last time. Shop will run from 11:00 19:00 on 09.23, and 10:00 - 17:00 on Saturday. Games will run a bit longer. As for the "game you can't play anywhere else" there will apparently be an announcement on Cave's shopping page.

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Fri Aug 31, 2007 11:04 am

Note: The event is listed in Arcadia as 9.23 Saturday and 9.24 Sunday. The 23rd is a Sunday though. The website says 9.23, so I guess that's it.

Details on the DVD:
http://cave.shop-pro.jp/?mode=f4

Six replays in all:

Reco:
Original Mode
Player: GFA2-ISO
Score: 540,093,834

Maniac Mode
Player: Clover-TAC
Score: 1,042,580,964

Ultra Mode
Player: Yusemi SWY
SCORE：3,601,321,787

Palm
Original Mode
Player: GFA2-ISO
Score: 518,902,716

Maniac Mode
Player: KTL-NAL
Score: 981,872,827

Ultra Mode
Player: Dame Shooter K.K
Score: 3,727,737,417

Note that there is a disclaimer on the page stating that all five players used a stock PCB, and got absolutely zero help from the development team.

PsikyoPshumpPshooterP · Fri Aug 31, 2007 3:36 pm

EOJ wrote:
Also, if you go to buy it, they will have a special version of Mushi Futari for play, which you won't be able to play anywhere else.

what does this part mean?

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Fri Aug 31, 2007 3:43 pm

PsikyoPshumpPshooterP wrote: what does this part mean?

The event at Hey will feature a game "you can't play anywhere else". As they're selling the Futari DVD, you can be sure they'll have at least one of their special version of Futari there (if not a new one).

Kiken · Post by **Kiken** » Fri Aug 31, 2007 4:33 pm

GaijinPunch wrote:
PsikyoPshumpPshooterP wrote: what does this part mean?
The event at Hey will feature a game "you can't play anywhere else". As they're selling the Futari DVD, you can be sure they'll have at least one of their special version of Futari there (if not a new one).

Figure it'll be something weird like Mushihime-sama Ver 1.5 (No Maniac Mode, Accelerated bullet speeds and more insane scoring)?

Mushihimes-sama Futari Ver 1.5.1?

EOJ · Post by **EOJ** » Fri Aug 31, 2007 6:59 pm

GaijinPunch wrote: Six replays in all:

Reco:
Original Mode
Player: GFA2-ISO
Score: 540,093,834

Maniac Mode
Player: Clover-TAC
Score: 1,042,580,964

Ultra Mode
Player: Yusemi SWY
SCORE：3,601,321,787

Palm
Original Mode
Player: GFA2-ISO
Score: 518,902,716

Maniac Mode
Player: KTL-NAL
Score: 981,872,827

Ultra Mode
Player: Dame Shooter K.K
Score: 3,727,737,417

Note that there is a disclaimer on the page stating that all five players used a stock PCB, and got absolutely zero help from the development team.

Good God. Those are some fucking incredible scores. Way, way higher than I thought was even possible, especially the Ultra mode scores!

Kiken · Post by **Kiken** » Fri Aug 31, 2007 7:23 pm

GaijinPunch wrote:Reco:
Original Mode
Player: GFA2-ISO
Score: 540,093,834

Maniac Mode
Player: Clover-TAC
Score: 1,042,580,964

Ultra Mode
Player: Yusemi SWY
SCORE：3,601,321,787

Palm
Original Mode
Player: GFA2-ISO
Score: 518,902,716

Maniac Mode
Player: KTL-NAL
Score: 981,872,827

Ultra Mode
Player: Dame Shooter K.K
Score: 3,727,737,417

Does the page confirm which version of the character they were using (I'm assuming that all the Palm players were using Abnormal shot)?

EOJ · Post by **EOJ** » Fri Aug 31, 2007 7:52 pm

Kiken wrote:
GaijinPunch wrote:Reco:
Original Mode
Player: GFA2-ISO
Score: 540,093,834

Maniac Mode
Player: Clover-TAC
Score: 1,042,580,964

Ultra Mode
Player: Yusemi SWY
SCORE：3,601,321,787

Palm
Original Mode
Player: GFA2-ISO
Score: 518,902,716

Maniac Mode
Player: KTL-NAL
Score: 981,872,827

Ultra Mode
Player: Dame Shooter K.K
Score: 3,727,737,417
Does the page confirm which version of the character they were using (I'm assuming that all the Palm players were using Abnormal shot)?

The Reco scores are all Normal, while the Palm scores are Normal in Original and Maniac modes, but Abnormal in Ultra mode.

That isn't confirmed, but I'd pretty much bet my house on it. Abnormal Palm sucks ass for scoring in Original and Maniac modes.

powerfuran · Post by **powerfuran** » Fri Aug 31, 2007 9:15 pm

RAM said ISO was the only one to top those original mode scores...guess the dvd run are his best shots.

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Fri Aug 31, 2007 11:37 pm

Yeah, doesn't say normal or abnormal. EOJ would know better than me. It does say at the bottom that "these are the scores as of August" so maybe they're still doing runs to improve? I don't know what type of head time they need to give the DVD production company.

EOJ · Post by **EOJ** » Sat Sep 01, 2007 1:25 am

GaijinPunch wrote: It does say at the bottom that "these are the scores as of August" so maybe they're still doing runs to improve? I don't know what type of head time they need to give the DVD production company.

I doubt they could improve much on those scores, they're really pushing the threshold of the "theoretical maximum" scores for each mode. I love how TAC's Maniac score is so close to the top default (no rapid fire) Mushi score which was on the "Secret Lover" DVD. It really shows that they designed both Maniac modes with similar (default) score maximums. I honestly never thought you could get a billion in Maniac mode in Futari 1.5, but there you go. Can't wait to see it!!!

If SWY did a no-miss in Ultra mode, I'll pee my pants.

Judging from his score, he may have.

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Sat Sep 01, 2007 3:16 am

I don't think the designers have maximums in mind when they create the games. In fact, I think the players almost always surpass their expectations. Guess we won't know until someone asks him specifically.