*Sigh* More Swap Disc Questions

iatneH · Post by **iatneH** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 4:56 am

Did you install Tool B right? You have to push it until it clicks in place. I have at least 2mm between the disc and tool B, and there's no way in Hell it's coming loose by itself. Even the brake in its open position is closer to my disc than tool B is.

Damocles · Post by **Damocles** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 8:58 am

iatneH wrote:Did you install Tool B right? You have to push it until it clicks in place. I have at least 2mm between the disc and tool B, and there's no way in Hell it's coming loose by itself. Even the brake in its open position is closer to my disc than tool B is.

He's using the metal version that actually lies underneath the disk itself. The sticky pad may have a tendency to unstick and raise just enough to make contact.

ktownhero · Post by **ktownhero** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 10:23 am

iatneH wrote:Did you install Tool B right? You have to push it until it clicks in place. I have at least 2mm between the disc and tool B, and there's no way in Hell it's coming loose by itself. Even the brake in its open position is closer to my disc than tool B is.

I have a different version of the tool than you. The one I have, frankly, is garbage. I wouldn't recommend that it ever be used. Better off just stuffing a piece of paper in front of the brake, which is exactly what I did.

ktownhero · Post by **ktownhero** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 6:11 pm

I contacted the seller of my Swap Disc set and advised them of the damage that their Tool B caused my ESPGaluda disc. I requested a 50% refund, but they went the extra mile and gave me a full refund for my troubles. What a great gesture by them to keep my future business. Even though I did have that one problem with this kit, it does play my imports perfectly now. And I have had a great overall service experience with http://www.allmodchip.com. They come highly recommended.

Pirate1019 · Post by **Pirate1019** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 11:26 pm

I have the same set as ktownhero, but I haven't had any problems of the sort. Are you sure you didn't just push the piece down hard enough? I made sure it was stuck on their pretty tight. If you give it a little force, the sticky stuff on the back of the piece compresses a bit. I've been playing my PS2 with the tools in (no import games yet) for a few weeks and it's held together fine.

I agree about the paper however. Like I said in a previous post, you can substitute Tools A and B with nothing more then paper and if you're willing to break the warranty sticker, replace Tool E with some paper and a little tape.

I should have saved my money.

lawnspic · Post by **lawnspic** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 12:04 am

ktownhero wrote:I contacted the seller of my Swap Disc set and advised them of the damage that their Tool B caused my ESPGaluda disc. I requested a 50% refund, but they went the extra mile and gave me a full refund for my troubles. What a great gesture by them to keep my future business. Even though I did have that one problem with this kit, it does play my imports perfectly now. And I have had a great overall service experience with http://www.allmodchip.com. They come highly recommended.

After i read this i shrugged, dont mess with that crap PLEASE!!!, you just killed a collectible item. Ok get the chip as per my thread LOOK and you will see. Also send your game to Disc Doctor and they will repair it for 5 bucks to like new condition as long as there is no top side damage. Can not stress this enough. The more i read this thread i thank my lucky stars i did not go that route.

http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?t=12704

This is my second system i had Davebere do, could not be more happy

Damocles · Post by **Damocles** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 12:36 am

...and that route is fine. However, your warranty is still screwed. I fried mine by giving it a static shock while trying to turn it on. I'm all for voiding everything under the sun, but if I had installed a chip before that I would have been screwed. ...and I believe the same goes for importing a console. I'm not sure what the Sony stance is on repairing imported PS2's, but I'm not exactly optimistic.

Keep in mind. A static shock killed mine. Not misuse. Not neglect. A SHOCK from my finger tip when I pressed the power button.

ktownhero · Post by **ktownhero** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 2:12 pm

Pirate1019 wrote:I have the same set as ktownhero, but I haven't had any problems of the sort. Are you sure you didn't just push the piece down hard enough? I made sure it was stuck on their pretty tight. If you give it a little force, the sticky stuff on the back of the piece compresses a bit. I've been playing my PS2 with the tools in (no import games yet) for a few weeks and it's held together fine.

I agree about the paper however. Like I said in a previous post, you can substitute Tools A and B with nothing more then paper and if you're willing to break the warranty sticker, replace Tool E with some paper and a little tape.

I should have saved my money.

I installed it properly. The surface was clean and I did not touch the sticky tape with my fingers. I pressed down good and hard, believe me; I was immediately paranoid about it laying underneath my discs.

Bottom line is that there is no reason to even risk having tool B laying underneath your discs. It can be easily replaced via a DIY solution that is much safer. Your tool B *may* be ok, mine wasn't. Why take the risk?

lawnspic,
No offense, but you're starting to sound like a salesman/broken record. Do you have stock in ps2 chips or something?

I get what you're saying, but these swap discs are still just fine. Any time you mod a system you run a risk in damaging something, including doing a mod chip. I understand that the Dave guy would have been a nice solution if I wanted to pay for it. I didn't want to pay for it, and therefore accepted the hassle/risks involved in going with the easy solution. I had a hang-up, now everything is fine.

I'm not happy about what happened, but it hardly "killed" a collectable item. Disc now has a blemish (not an actual scratch, mind you - luckily) but it plays just fine. There's no data on the outer rim of these games anyway, they are so small (thank god).

lawnspic · Post by **lawnspic** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 10:44 pm

Ok, i can respect that, and im not trying to promote this guy, but i am trying to help. Also you are wrong Esp is a 4+GB monster with info right to the edge as with most of the smaller games. As a matter of fact all the game data is at the very edge because this game uses a false TOC with about 3+GB of dummy data so it loading times will be reduced. Trust me i know this, i backed up my original and viewed the TOC with ISO Buster.

Daigoro · Post by **Daigoro** » Sun Feb 25, 2007 8:30 pm

Pirate1019 wrote:
I agree about the paper however. Like I said in a previous post, you can substitute Tools A and B with nothing more then paper and if you're willing to break the warranty sticker, replace Tool E with some paper and a little tape.

I should have saved my money.

could i get a couple of pointers on what needs to be done exactly?

would this mod do the trick: http://www.geocities.com/pstwoslimline/tapetissue.htm if i got some swap magic CDs?

ktownhero · Post by **ktownhero** » Sun Feb 25, 2007 10:09 pm

Daigoro wrote:
Pirate1019 wrote:
I agree about the paper however. Like I said in a previous post, you can substitute Tools A and B with nothing more then paper and if you're willing to break the warranty sticker, replace Tool E with some paper and a little tape.

I should have saved my money.
could i get a couple of pointers on what needs to be done exactly?

would this mod do the trick: http://www.geocities.com/pstwoslimline/tapetissue.htm if i got some swap magic CDs?

Yes.

Daigoro · Post by **Daigoro** » Sun Feb 25, 2007 10:43 pm

groovy, thanks.

Pirate1019 · Post by **Pirate1019** » Sun Feb 25, 2007 11:28 pm

Yeah, that's pretty much what I did except replace tissue with regular college rule lined paper and replace duct tape with regular college rule lined paper and some scotch tape.

malcolm · Post by **malcolm** » Thu Nov 01, 2007 10:20 pm

Wow good thing I used the search, ceph would of been all over me.

Anyway I'm purchasing DDP:DOJ, Ibara, and EspGaluda for my US PS2(non-slim). Now my question is will these work with swap magic? I can't find these games on any compatability list.

Also, is it best to use the slide tool or the flip top case?

Any input would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.

Oh and which is the best version of swap magic?

Gwyrgyn Blood · Post by **Gwyrgyn Blood** » Thu Nov 01, 2007 11:02 pm

Yes they all work with Swap Magic. Get a Flip Top, slide tools can easily damage your disc tray. Best version of Swap Magic is probably just the newest.

Ganelon · Post by **Ganelon** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 2:51 am

The only JP PS2 shooter that doesn't work on a US PS2 via recent versions of Swap Magic (3.x and above) is Choaniki due to its very high TOC. With recent versions of Swap Magic. Have fun playing everything else without any problem whatsoever.

malcolm · Post by **malcolm** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 11:05 am

thanks for the help gang