Wii VC & Flash Shmups Thread

Vexorg · Post by **Vexorg** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 7:10 pm

Dylan1CC wrote:
And just played Raiden X for the first time. Best flash game ever. Whenever I get my Wii, the first thing I am trying with the opera browser is either Raiden X or seeing if I can watch Homestarrunner on my brother's plasma.

Homestarrunner.com was one of the first things I tried on mine. It works just fine, but doesn't handle the zoom properly, so you end up watching in a small part of the screen. Hopefully future versions of the browser will improve this.

Dylan1CC · Post by **Dylan1CC** » Thu Jan 11, 2007 7:51 am

Vexorg wrote:
Dylan1CC wrote:
And just played Raiden X for the first time. Best flash game ever. Whenever I get my Wii, the first thing I am trying with the opera browser is either Raiden X or seeing if I can watch Homestarrunner on my brother's plasma.
Homestarrunner.com was one of the first things I tried on mine. It works just fine, but doesn't handle the zoom properly, so you end up watching in a small part of the screen. Hopefully future versions of the browser will improve this.

Thanks for the info. Bummer. I assume then it's the same when viewing it on the PSP where a small part of the 'toon is cropped. Oh well, as long as it isn't anywhere near as crappy as the PSP's flash itself (which isn't optimized for the system's small amount of browser memory, therefore causing every episode to crash partway through), then I'll be OK.

Of course, watching Homestar on anything but a computer is kind of dumb, but the curious tech/gadget nerd in me has to know what it's like, ya know?

Zach Keene · Post by **Zach Keene** » Mon Jan 15, 2007 1:23 pm

Today's NA update will bring us Xevious and R-Type III.

al138 · Post by **al138** » Mon Jan 15, 2007 6:45 pm

I just picked up R-Type III, and I think it plays fairly well with the Classic controller. So far I have not noticed any major graphic issues (the Mode 7 effects are flawless), although some of the sound effects do seem a little muffled compared to what I remember. The slowdown is there, too, and in all the right places.

Did anyone download Xevious? I'm curious to hear how that turned out before I score it.

professor ganson · Post by **professor ganson** » Mon Jan 15, 2007 9:36 pm

al138 wrote:I just picked up R-Type III, and I think it plays fairly well with the Classic controller. So far I have not noticed any major graphic issues (the Mode 7 effects are flawless), although some of the sound effects do seem a little muffled compared to what I remember. The slowdown is there, too, and in all the right places.

Did anyone download Xevious? I'm curious to hear how that turned out before I score it.

Glad to hear about R-Type III. Thanks for the report.

As for Xevious, you really must play it in tate. The Wii version will definitely suck compared to, say, the version for PS1.

animefanjr · Post by **animefanjr** » Tue Jan 16, 2007 12:50 pm

I got R-type 3 too, I love it, I even have the cart.

I only got to play level ons so far, game is perfect as I can tell.

MJR · Post by **MJR** » Tue Jan 16, 2007 2:45 pm

But not in europe.

Damn

Monk 0 Nuggets · Post by **Monk 0 Nuggets** » Tue Jan 30, 2007 12:47 am

So, Contra III came out today in the US. I love this game, but my only disappointment is the complete inability to use my Hori Digital pad on it. There is no button config on it so it's so awkward to use that there is no point. The classic controller is great though. There is a lot more slow-down in some points than the original also. Otherwise, great game.

DJ Incompetent · Post by **DJ Incompetent** » Tue Jan 30, 2007 5:07 am

Monk 0 Nuggets wrote:So, Contra III came out today in the US. I love this game, but my only disappointment is the complete inability to use my Hori Digital pad on it.

Just the hori pad or does a standard GC controller's d-pad also not work on that?

You or anybody have any other SNES games downloaded? Is it possible the GC d-pad functions are not present in any of them?

Savory · Post by **Savory** » Tue Jan 30, 2007 2:07 pm

I think he means it's unusable because the button layout is horrible. I made the same mistake last night. Basically, B is jump, A is bomb and Y is shoot. Not really conducive to a twitchy run n' gun and there's no option to remap the buttons in the game. Now I have to go buy a classic controller just so I can play it.

I've got a few other SNES VC games and the Gamecube/Wavebird d-pad works fine, it's just small. The Hori pad is much better.

al138 · Post by **al138** » Wed Jan 31, 2007 12:32 am

Savory wrote:I think he means it's unusable because the button layout is horrible. I made the same mistake last night. Basically, B is jump, A is bomb and Y is shoot. Not really conducive to a twitchy run n' gun and there's no option to remap the buttons in the game. Now I have to go buy a classic controller just so I can play it.

I've got a few other SNES VC games and the Gamecube/Wavebird d-pad works fine, it's just small. The Hori pad is much better.

On the bright side, I think you will find the Classic Controller well made and quite comfortable to use. There are times when I wish I could use it instead of my Wavebird for GC games.

DJ Incompetent · Post by **DJ Incompetent** » Fri Feb 16, 2007 6:21 am

http://blog.wired.com/games/2007/02/jap ... games.html

Chris Kohler of Wired News wrote:Japan-Only Games Possible for US Virtual Console
Topic: Retrogames

Nintendo is open to the possibility of putting Japan-only classic games on the US Virtual Console, says senior VP George Harrison. I just spoke to him on the phone with some questions about VC, so here you go:

We are aware that there are some very successful Japanese franchises that have a small following in the US, and that they could never be reached by putting these products out at retail. We're open to games released in Japan if we can get them translated properly.

But, Harrison adds, for the time being, Nintendo of America busy enough working through the major games that have already been released in the US.

I'm continuing to speak with company execs about digital delivery; as news breaks I'll report it here first.

Iapetus · Post by **Iapetus** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 11:26 pm

Pardon this noob response, but I am an aspiring shmup player and I have a few questions about the VC. Having been pretty seasoned in Ikaruga, I got Soldier Blade and R-Type for the VC and I was really impressed. I am reading complaints that it isn't perfect emulation of the TG16, which bums me out. I was wondering, is getting a TG16 for these shooters worth it even if I have the games on VC? Also, I noticed too that the Wiimote's buttons are inconsisten in circuit communication when the batteries get low. Is there a good controller (Besides the Hori pad) for GC that can substitute it?

Thanks for helping a beginner.

Monk 0 Nuggets · Post by **Monk 0 Nuggets** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 12:07 am

The classic controller is pretty good if you can get one. I have heard of this one place (can't remember the site) you can order old controllers with gamecube inputs on it so you can use it with your VC games. Anyone else heard this?

Iapetus · Post by **Iapetus** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 12:59 am

Sorry I didn't mention this before, but I do have a classic controller for the Wii. I like it a lot, but I have noticed marring experiences with it concerning the batteries.

iatneH · Post by **iatneH** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 1:03 am

I still don't have a Wii, but I do have a Wiimote and a Classic Controller.

But for the GCN controller button layout woes, has anyone confirmed if a Cube Joybox works on some or any VC titles?

Arvandor · Post by **Arvandor** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 1:35 am

iatneH, if no body has told you by the time I get back from my cousin's place much later tonight (MUCH later), I'll run a test for you =D I'm pretty sure it does though.

szycag · Post by **szycag** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 1:42 am

An adapter from a third party to plug your classic controller into the Gamecube slot would be really smart. The D-pad on the CC is tons tons better.

Zach Keene · Post by **Zach Keene** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 7:28 pm

I wonder why the CC wasn't a GC-style controller in the first place.

Anywho, Gradius III (SNES version, obviously) has gotten an ESRB rating.

Arvandor · Post by **Arvandor** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 1:53 am

Zach Keene wrote:I wonder why the CC wasn't a GC-style controller in the first place.

I'm glad it isn't. Classic Controller kicks the SHITE out of the GC controller. And besides, the CC technically has everything the GC controller has, except an extra shoulder button I think? It does have two shoulder buttons on each side right? I've never messed with those buttons so I dunno -_^

Zach Keene · Post by **Zach Keene** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 4:41 am

No, I agree. What I meant was, why isn't it a GC-compatible controller? Then you wouldn't have the wackiness when the Wiimote's battery is dying (which fortunately hasn t happened to me yet), and programmers wouldn't have to support GC and CC controllers separately (which may have prevented some of the Metal Slug Anthology bullshit... or not.)

If nothing else it would have made an awesome alternative to the Hori pad for those who couldn't find (or don't want) a Wii.

Arvandor · Post by **Arvandor** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 4:49 am

ah, yeah, I see what you mean =) Though, the metal slug anthology retardedness would have still been there. You would have ended up using that analog stick on the CC, since the d-pad wasn't supported on the Gamecbue, I don't know why it would have been if the CC was a gamecube controller.

The biggest drawback is definitely the batteries. Reminds me of the good ol' Gamegear -_^

Monk 0 Nuggets · Post by **Monk 0 Nuggets** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 5:02 am

Question. When the Metal Slug Anthology comes out for PS2, do you think we will be able to use an arcade stick or no?

Zach Keene · Post by **Zach Keene** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 6:26 pm

Sega has announced BHB for next Monday in NA.

Also, it seems Aleste will be one of the first MSX titles to be released (in Japan, of course) for 800 points. (Yes, 800.

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al138 · Post by **al138** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 11:24 pm

Zach Keene wrote:Also, it seems Aleste will be one of the first MSX titles to be released (in Japan, of course) for 800 points. (Yes, 800. )

I agree that 800 is a bit steep. On the other hand, 800 for a Neo Geo title on VC? That would be great...let's just hope it becomes a reality.

iatneH · Post by **iatneH** » Sat Feb 24, 2007 5:34 am

Yay BHB. My Genesis cart only cost me $2? Good stuff though, I'd probably buy it on VC. I'm worried about the VC backlog, I'll might end up spending another $50 or $75 just on points cards before I get a Wii.

Zach Keene · Post by **Zach Keene** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 12:38 am

Looks like this thread hasn't been updated in a while, so a few notes:

Galaga (NES) recently came out in North America. Hudson's John Lee says that Blazing Lazers is about to hit us upside the face soon.

Lotsa nifty stuff came out in Japan: Galaga '88, Final Soldier. A release of Gradius 2 FC is pending.

Also a new version of the browser came out recently, though I have no idea if the flash implementation was changed/improved any.

Sonic R · Post by **Sonic R** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 2:32 am

Neo Geo on VC!

Maybe we can see some of those shoot them ups that never made it to any collection or compilation

DJ Incompetent · Post by **DJ Incompetent** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 3:14 am

Internet Browser.

Yes, I tested some of the old broken links. The random game crashes no longer happen and the A button problem is now fixed. But now the new problem is the Wii doesn't have enough memory to handle the full length of some of these games. I haven't retested the full list. I'll get up on that soon.

The browser is stuck at flash 7 because after Adobe took over Macromedia's stuff, they stopped releasing the development code to other parties to implement flash 8 & 9 into other stuff.

Thanks Zach & Sonic R for the other VC tips.

Pixel_Outlaw · Post by **Pixel_Outlaw** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 4:37 am

Many people outside this community might feel that the VC is a cheap gimmic. I must applaud the efforts of Nintendo to host some of the non Nintendo brand products. This is just another reason to love the Wii.