So I bought a new tv..

elvis · Post by **elvis** » Mon Jan 15, 2007 12:01 am

Arznei wrote:The only reason why I intended on getting a VGA adapter to play shooters on this monitor, is because I have the VGA adapter for Dreamcast. It looks really amazing for all games, not just shooters. I don't know why it wouldn't look the same for the PS2 games. I mean, if the Dreamcast is making games look so good through VGA, yet it was made before the PS2, uhh.. what?

The difference is the DC spits out actual 640x480 VGA mode. The PS2 does not (well, it does but only for a handful of games, and none of them are shmups).

A VGA box for a PS2 takes a low-res signal and upscales it. This won't give you a native high-res image ala the Dreamcast. It will give you a scaled image that will look like shit.

It doesn't matter that the PS2 was made after the DC. It's quite well known that the DC was ahead of it's time. In fact, the PS2 is utterly shit from a hardware point of view. Too low on RAM, too complex to program, and the quality of hardware is crap (lasers keep blowing, power supplies are underrated, etc).

You give way too much credit to the PS2. Sure, it has a great library of games (and lets face it, a console is only as good as it's games). But from a hardware and design perspective, it's shit.

freddiebamboo · Post by **freddiebamboo** » Mon Jan 15, 2007 1:02 am

Where is recap when you need him

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Mon Jan 15, 2007 1:35 am

freddiebamboo wrote:Where is recap when you need him

Actually, I think the points here are pretty clearly summed up.

elvis · Post by **elvis** » Mon Jan 15, 2007 4:06 am

GaijinPunch wrote:
The Treasure Box collection on PS2 offers interlaced and progressive modes via the setup menu for all games). A criticism of the
This is apparently a feature of all the recent Sega Ages games, not just the Treasure Box.

Showing yet again that Sega have a clue, and most other companies don't.

It's a crying shame they dropped out of the hardware market.

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Mon Jan 15, 2007 11:27 am

elvis wrote:Showing yet again that Sega have a clue, and most other companies don't.

It's a crying shame they dropped out of the hardware market.

It's a crying shame "gamers" didn't give them the support they needed to stay in the hardware business.

Arznei · Post by **Arznei** » Mon Jan 15, 2007 3:32 pm

elvis wrote:You give way too much credit to the PS2. Sure, it has a great library of games (and lets face it, a console is only as good as it's games). But from a hardware and design perspective, it's shit.

I only give credit to the PS2 due to it's selection of games. If the Dreamcast had the life it was supposed to (personally, I believe it was released too soon. Had they of waited and released it around the same time as the PS2, it would've had direct competition instead of being the "oddball") I would probably still consider it my favorite console, alas, it's almost dead.

I can't keep faith in the Dreamcast saying it didn't fail, because it did. I'm unfortunately sticking with that and yes, I do give the PS2 credit, not for it's specifications directly but because it's managed to have a large variety of games to my appeal. The Gamecube on the other hand only has 10 or so games I like, so I guess the most easily adaptable console wins the console war.

The PS2 won the 6th generation and it'll probably keep going. I don't know about the PS3 though because it just didn't click with earth. PS3 was all like "sup, what's up", earth was like "no, it's ok, go away." Seriously.

Hmm.. maybe I'll still get that monitor. I barely even touched Under Defeat and the bombs are awesome in that game. I could pretty much work on that had the interest of been there sooner. Oh well.

Well thanks, this was useful. I'll think it over.

elvis · Post by **elvis** » Tue Jan 16, 2007 2:11 am

Don't get wrong, I have no qualms with the volume of software available for the PS2.

Read my posts clearly: Sony's hardware is utter shit. But again, the best hardware in the world doesn't guarantee good software, nor does it guarantee developers will make software for your product. Sega vs Sony is a good example, as is PowerPC vs Intel, or Anything vs Microsoft.

Good design doesn't always mean success will follow. We live in a world of underhanded marketing droids and extremely stupid and gullible end users. The combination of which means that marketing will always outweigh engineering in this world.

Again, I really hate Sony hardware. I also happen to own a PSX and PS2, and enjoy the games I own on both. Will I get rid of either? Heck no.