Another new Dreamcast game -- not a shmup this time...

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Another new Dreamcast game -- not a shmup this time...

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Rush Rush Rally Racing
developer: Senile Team
publisher: redspotgames

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Great post/news
It even has a wide screen mode
http://www.senileteam.com/r4shots.php?v=SHOT0113.png
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GTA meets Neo Drift Out.
I like. 8)
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Yeah, Neo Driftout was my first thought as well.

If it's half as good this will be fucking sweet.
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I got the impression of Moto Roader. Hopefully it will be 4 player just like Moto Roader(actually Moto Roader was 5 player).
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Neon wrote:Yeah, Neo Driftout was my first thought as well.

If it's half as good this will be fucking sweet.
Word, I LOVE Driftout, although I think it got ports, under different names, to other systems.

OT, I've never played the original GTA, but I'd like to-is it kind of like Spyhuter; in terms of firing weapons from your car, can you get out of the car, etc?
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thrilling
Damn Tim, you know there are quite a few Americans out there who still lives in tents due to this shitty economy, and you're dropping loads on a single game which only last 20 min. Do you think it's fair? How much did you spend this time?
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dave4shmups wrote:
Neon wrote:Yeah, Neo Driftout was my first thought as well.

If it's half as good this will be fucking sweet.
Word, I LOVE Driftout, although I think it got ports, under different names, to other systems.

OT, I've never played the original GTA, but I'd like to-is it kind of like Spyhuter; in terms of firing weapons from your car, can you get out of the car, etc?
The only port Neo Driftout had was on the Neo-Geo CD (no AES release). The CD version cost around $100. :?
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looks like you guys have Thrash Rally and Drift Out mixed up.
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dave4shmups wrote:OT, I've never played the original GTA, but I'd like to-is it kind of like Spyhuter; in terms of firing weapons from your car, can you get out of the car, etc?
just so you know both the original GTA and GTA2 are available as free downloads right here: http://www.rockstargames.com/classics/
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Cool, I've heard a little about this game, but this is teh first time seeing screen shots.

Does anyone know if this is an official release? I kinda doubt it is, so if not is this freeware or are they trying to sell it?
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It's getting published by GOAT Games, so it's not freeware. (legally, at least)
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lowemark wrote:just so you know both the original GTA and GTA2 are available as free downloads right here: http://www.rockstargames.com/classics/
Wow, I didn't know that! Thanks for the heads-up, I might check those out. 8)
Stormwatch wrote:(legally, at least)
Ha ha. Even illegally, it's still not considered freeware. :wink: (I know what you meant though.)

It's interesting that with the release of Last Hope, we now have two independent publishers for the DC (as far as I can tell). GOAT Store Publishing, and redspotgames. I bought Inhabitants, and it was pretty decent quality, so I'm looking forward to see what Last Hope will be like.

I'll probably be buying Rush Rush Rally Racing as well; I liked Beats of Rage, have been looking forward to Age of the Beast, and I feel like this R4 is Senile Team's "Doki Doki Idol Starseeker" (G.rev) -- A quick, fun game to bring in some funds to help the production of their big title. Maybe I'm wrong and it's totally rude of me to mentally assign the game to that second purpose, but it's how I feel and on top of how fun the game looks, if my buying it will help Senile Team out, then by all means.
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icepick wrote:I'll probably be buying Rush Rush Rally Racing as well; I liked Beats of Rage, have been looking forward to Age of the Beast, and I feel like this R4 is Senile Team's "Doki Doki Idol Starseeker" (G.rev) -- A quick, fun game to bring in some funds to help the production of their big title. Maybe I'm wrong and it's totally rude of me to mentally assign the game to that second purpose, but it's how I feel and on top of how fun the game looks, if my buying it will help Senile Team out, then by all means.
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The CD version cost around $100
OMG!! is this true? I have this laying around
Damn Tim, you know there are quite a few Americans out there who still lives in tents due to this shitty economy, and you're dropping loads on a single game which only last 20 min. Do you think it's fair? How much did you spend this time?
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shinsage wrote:looks like you guys have Thrash Rally and Drift Out mixed up.
That's the game I was thinking of; thanks! IIRC, it plays almost identical to Drift Out.
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Strider77 wrote:
The CD version cost around $100
OMG!! is this true? I have this laying around
It's true.

Neo Drift Out only had a MVS release and a Neo-Geo CD release.

The Neo-Geo CD release goes for around $80-$100.
The MVS cart goes for around $150-$300 depending on condition and if it comes with the orginal stuff (you know, like dip sheets, etc).

Both are the same game really, just the CD version has short loading times. ;)
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dave4shmups wrote:
shinsage wrote:looks like you guys have Thrash Rally and Drift Out mixed up.
That's the game I was thinking of; thanks! IIRC, it plays almost identical to Drift Out.
Kinda, except Thrash Rally's strictly overhead like this game.
Or should I call it Trash Rally, guffaw guffaw.
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Looks good! I would pick this up due to the fact that I've always enjoyed these types of racers.
Whats it going to sell for anyway?
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TWITCHDOCTOR wrote:Looks good! I would pick this up due to the fact that I've always enjoyed these types of racers.
Whats it going to sell for anyway?
€15 - a bargain! I only just heard of this game! It's out in October, and yeah - Neo Driftout returns! Excellent!

For sale here.
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Doesn't look like my type of game, but I love that these guys are supporting the DC! I may just buy it to support their efforts.
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I like how they're only releasing their newsgrounds-like quality on the Dreamcast to gain attention. These kinds of games are only cashing in on nostalgia and nothing else, no active gamer today is going to actively seek this out because they've been waiting for it.
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Here's a youtube video on it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfu6m6lM ... r_embedded

This new fangled DC racing game does remind me of those old-school MVS games of Neo Drift Out & Thrash Rally. ^_~

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I think this looks great. After the slew of drab horizontal shmups, top down racing is like a breath of fresh air.

There's some kind of LE thing happening, so if you're into that sort of thing, you might want to wait a bit
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Elixir wrote:I like how they're only releasing their newsgrounds-like quality on the Dreamcast to gain attention. These kinds of games are only cashing in on nostalgia and nothing else, no active gamer today is going to actively seek this out because they've been waiting for it.
This game was developed over a few years and only until now will the developers see any profit. It was originally designed for a contest several years ago and instead of it being scrapped, it was decided that without any quick returns it was to be completed as a full commercial game.

While it doesn't look outstanding I believe that's the point. It is 2D after all and recognizing that it's not the first game like this (GTA, Thrash Rally, etc..) there would obviously be some people who are interested in it from an actual fun factor. I don't expect you to change your stance but I among others who are quite interested in this title don't appreciate your downcast comments. Speaking about a company who previously released Beats of Rage for free that they're cashing in on a commercial game is bullshit. This game could've easily been the same but you gotta eat sometime too right?
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I just love top down racers, I admit I'm a nostagia fan, and I'm always up for supporting a reales like this for £12. I can only guess about the quality of the game as much as I can guess about their motivations, but I'm excited to take the chance!
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Limbrooke wrote:
Elixir wrote:I like how they're only releasing their newsgrounds-like quality on the Dreamcast to gain attention. These kinds of games are only cashing in on nostalgia and nothing else, no active gamer today is going to actively seek this out because they've been waiting for it.
This game was developed over a few years and only until now will the developers see any profit. It was originally designed for a contest several years ago and instead of it being scrapped, it was decided that without any quick returns it was to be completed as a full commercial game.

While it doesn't look outstanding I believe that's the point. It is 2D after all and recognizing that it's not the first game like this (GTA, Thrash Rally, etc..) there would obviously be some people who are interested in it from an actual fun factor. I don't expect you to change your stance but I among others who are quite interested in this title don't appreciate your downcast comments. Speaking about a company who previously released Beats of Rage for free that they're cashing in on a commercial game is bullshit. This game could've easily been the same but you gotta eat sometime too right?
So what warrants this game being released on the Dreamcast over being released as an Indie title on XBL, or as an XBLA game? Why isn't it going to the PSN store and being a PS3 game? Why isn't it DSiware? Why isn't it Wiiware? My point is, I don't see any purpose in releasing a full priced retail Dreamcast title in 2009. In fact, they would probably make more profit if they released it on something that most people today still own.

Even if they've released games in the past for free (I know virtually nothing about their history), it seems bad for business. The game being in a contest and not being scrapped, then being made commercially warrants a "daw, that's cute" but everything released on the Dreamcast since about 2005 has been mediocre or you can just tell it's a low budget game. I mean I'm not hauling my DC out just to play this, but if it was on XBLA or PSN I might download the demo. Releasing it specifically for the DC just makes it less accessible. That's the difference.
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Elixir wrote:
So what warrants this game being released on the Dreamcast over being released as an Indie title on XBL, or as an XBLA game? Why isn't it going to the PSN store and being a PS3 game? Why isn't it DSiware? Why isn't it Wiiware? My point is, I don't see any purpose in releasing a full priced retail Dreamcast title in 2009. In fact, they would probably make more profit if they released it on something that most people today still own.
Fair points indeed, but there is all the (expensive) approval processes and quality controls and such (although there's XBL Community Games of course).

Also, there's the quite obvious fact that one of the motivations here is the labour of love. Sure, I'm guessing here, but surely these developers are doing this for the love of making a game for the Dreamcast?
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Elixir wrote:So what warrants this game being released on the Dreamcast over being released as an Indie title on XBL, or as an XBLA game? Why isn't it going to the PSN store and being a PS3 game? Why isn't it DSiware? Why isn't it Wiiware? My point is, I don't see any purpose in releasing a full priced retail Dreamcast title in 2009. In fact, they would probably make more profit if they released it on something that most people today still own.

Even if they've released games in the past for free (I know virtually nothing about their history), it seems bad for business. The game being in a contest and not being scrapped, then being made commercially warrants a "daw, that's cute" but everything released on the Dreamcast since about 2005 has been mediocre or you can just tell it's a low budget game. I mean I'm not hauling my DC out just to play this, but if it was on XBLA or PSN I might download the demo. Releasing it specifically for the DC just makes it less accessible. That's the difference.
It was originally developed for the Dreamcast several years ago and the development was completed for Dreamcast. Makes sense to me. Also, 15 Euros is hardly full priced and as mentioned profit really isn't the name of the game here given SenileTeams track record. Beats of Rage is a good game, especially one made for free and released for free. R4 again was made without payroll and since it's been taken on as a larger project from the canned game contest (see Lik-Sang) it makes sense that they could get some compensation back.

I guess you simply don't care for the Dreamcast since as you mention you aren't hauling [your] DC out.. which to me explains a lot of why you aren't interested. Less accesible to you, definitely sounds like it, to people who actually have Dreamcasts, sometimes several hooked up at the same time, I don't think so. It's certainly a shrinking number of people who actively use their Dreamcast over current generation consoles (assuming they have any from the current gen) and otherwise but the few that do feel strongly about this. I would say I'm in that group and I don't own any console past PS2. However, games need to start somewhere and who knows, as Beats of Rage showed us, it can see ports to various systems. R4 could very well do the same down the line, which wouldn't be a bad thing at all.
spadgy wrote:Also, there's the quite obvious fact that one of the motivations here is the labour of love. Sure, I'm guessing here, but surely these developers are doing this for the love of making a game for the Dreamcast?
The game started in development on Dreamcast and rather than switching all the code, it was finished for use on the Dreamcast. I do think sentiments about lack of current hardware seeing any light but given the developers don't work on a budget per se it makes sense to continue development for a system that requires little capital towards developing and publishing commercial titles.
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