Official: Mushihime-sama Futari (1.0, 1.5, BLT)

ArrogantBastard · Post by **ArrogantBastard** » Fri Jul 28, 2006 9:45 am

lol mushiluda

Edit: Also, Elvis' wife's getting mad / fed up because of all the tits? What the Christ?

SuperPang · Post by **SuperPang** » Fri Jul 28, 2006 10:17 am

Am I seeing two characters, two ships/creatures here? Sweet. Pretty small dragon like

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Fri Jul 28, 2006 11:38 am

Prequel?

Ironic though, no? Mushihime-sama was first previewed in the ESPGaluda soundtrack. Now this, in the Galuda II soundtrack.

~Kid Icarus~ · Post by **~Kid Icarus~** » Fri Jul 28, 2006 12:54 pm

elvis wrote:Still no panties, and now with more boob!

Look, I love my Cave shmups, but can we PLEASE pick a different marketing tactic? My missus is seriously getting fed up with the ever growing amount of near-nekkid underage anime girls sitting on coverart in the games room.

What happened to the era of big ugly menacing things gracing the covers of boxart?

Seconded. My girlfriend bought me Mushi for my birthday. When she saw the back of the box she was like "this had better not have pron in it".

benj · Post by **benj** » Fri Jul 28, 2006 1:22 pm

Oh noes, it's a girl! We're all gonna get cooties!!

Post by **BulletMagnet** » Fri Jul 28, 2006 1:25 pm

elvis wrote:What happened to the era of big ugly menacing things gracing the covers of boxart?

I guess that enormous beetle doesn't count?

But yeah, I'm not a big fan-service person either...thankfully, if this one turns out anything like the first Mushi, the T+A will be almost exclusively confined to the promo stuff/artwork/etc. and not have much of a presence in the actual game. Keep yer fingers crossed...

Post by **Icarus** » Fri Jul 28, 2006 1:38 pm

I'm patiently waiting for Round 2 of the "New low for Cave's marketing tactic" thread. I'll be stocking up on beer and crisps first, then laughing my ass off at all the girls crying over Cave's use of an anime-styled character "degrading" their "manly" game.

Quit your bitching and get over it. Go buy it when it comes out. It'll be decent regardless of who graces the flyer, the poster and the big foldout. Just remember one key fact: you might be a shmupper, but as someone who lives on the other side of the planet (nearly), you are not part of Cave's primary marketing target, therefore what you want or think is irrelevant.

And on-topic, looks like a new character designer, definitely not Tomoyuki Kotani or the Espgaluda 2 character artist. And Reko looks a bit older here than she did in the first game, so I doubt it's a prequel, perhaps a proper sequel set not long after the events of the first game.

Hope the game system will be a marked improvement.

Dandy J · Post by **Dandy J** » Fri Jul 28, 2006 2:09 pm

ArrogantBastard wrote:lol mushiluda

Fuck, beaten! I wanted to post LOL MUSHILUDA

Icarus wrote:definitely not the Espgaluda 2 character artist.

Uh the first thing I thought was "looks like Espgaluda 2 artist". It is the same art style.

I also miss the more manly, or at least non-fanservicey themes in Cave shmups. Hopefully their next game is something more manly like DODONPENIS IV: BEECOCK VORTEX

Post by **BulletMagnet** » Fri Jul 28, 2006 2:11 pm

Since when does stating "I'm not nuts about superficial aspect abc of game xyz" equate to "Just because of that I automatically hate everything about it and will never play it?" Wasn't there a discussion about this very same obligatory "taking to extremes" rather recently?

Of course most people are going to play it (if given the opportunity, come on home port!), and unless Cave really messes it up many will probably like it, given the popularity of the first...yes, I know, discussing the artwork isn't exactly "in-depth" game stuff, but at least wait to criticize us for noobishly ignoring the strategy and whatnot when there's actually some strategy and whatnot to ignore.

Valgar · Post by **Valgar** » Fri Jul 28, 2006 2:22 pm

BulletMagnet wrote: I guess that enormous beetle doesn't count?

That beetle has at least 10 penises.

Post by **Icarus** » Fri Jul 28, 2006 2:26 pm

Dandy J wrote:Uh the first thing I thought was "looks like Espgaluda 2 artist". It is the same art style.

I dunno, the Espgaluda 2 characters look a little more 'deformed' in a way - the head shape was more oval, while Mushi 2's characters have a more standard anime-style shape.

Compare: this Mushi 2 art to this image of Espgaluda 2's Tsubame and Janome.

The eye shape is different, and most (if not all) artists always stick to a particular style. The colouring/shading style is different too.

BulletMagnet wrote:Since when does stating "I'm not nuts about superficial aspect abc of game xyz" equate to "Just because of that I automatically hate everything about it and will never play it?" Wasn't there a discussion about this very same obligatory "taking to extremes" rather recently? Razz Wink Of course most people are going to play it (if given the opportunity, come on home port!), and unless Cave really messes it up many will probably like it, given the popularity of the first...yes, I know, discussing the artwork isn't exactly "in-depth" game stuff, but at least wait to criticize us for noobishly ignoring the strategy and whatnot when there's actually some strategy and whatnot to ignore.

Pfft. Some people on this very forum have dropped Ibara simply because they didn't like the T&A aspect of the game. So what? While I don't give a crap what people think about "X" game or "Y" game at the end of the day, not even giving a game a chance just because it has a girl on the front cover is a bit unusual to me.

EDIT: Image embedding removed and now linked.

eckart · Post by **eckart** » Fri Jul 28, 2006 2:38 pm

For me it looks like it was made from the same artist.
But I didn`t like her proportions.- wired legs.

Anyway, great news.

Post by **BulletMagnet** » Fri Jul 28, 2006 2:49 pm

Icarus wrote:Some people on this very forum have dropped Ibara simply because they didn't like the T&A aspect of the game.

I agree, despite my own distaste for excessive fan-service, that that kind of reaction isn't my style (especially seeing that, as with Mushi, in-game it's not all that prevalent...something like Steam Hearts, on the other hand, is a different story, at least for me), but that said, methinks it's safe to say that the number of those who didn't play that (or any) game just because of the artwork is very small, and no matter how many did so, is that sufficient reason (or anyone's right, frankly) to declare anyone's negative opinions on another game's artwork invalid (or outright prohibit them)? As I said, most people aren't going to abandon the game just because of superficial aspects: learn (again) to separate the extreme from the moderate.

Post by **Icarus** » Fri Jul 28, 2006 3:02 pm

Why? Extreme makes things more interesting. ^_-

Post by **BulletMagnet** » Fri Jul 28, 2006 3:11 pm

It also tends to send otherwise-unassuming discussions to their eternal rest in the "Worst Threads Ever" section.

Post by **system11** » Fri Jul 28, 2006 4:00 pm

Strange - Reko looks younger IMHO.

Daigohji · Post by **Daigohji** » Fri Jul 28, 2006 4:07 pm

T&A is fine by me

My first guess is that those images are by different artists. Though costumes, colour schemes and proportions can change from one project to the next, artists tend to carry over certain traits without thinking about them. These change organically over time, but that takes years. On the Mushi 2 art the pupils are the same colour as the iris shadow, whereas on Galuda 2 the pupils are black. In Mushi 2 the chin lines are rounder and softer at the jaw curve. The Galuda 2 ears are more cartoony, and the shadow that the head casts across the neck and shoulders is a generic blob, whereas the Mushi2 neck shadows take the light source into account. The girth of the necks and limbs are also more realistic on the Mushi 2 art. All these little artistic "ticks" make me think they're different artists... which probably means I'm wrong

lol

What concerns me is the position of the ball that Reko is grasping...

sven666 · Post by **sven666** » Fri Jul 28, 2006 4:52 pm

made me think of this...

http://www.zonicweb.net/badalbmcvrs/bad ... iller1.jpg
[mod edit: potentially NSFW, and big inline images make me a sad panda anyway]

ill play the game and ill enjoy it too (hell ill proboably even pay obscene amount$ to do it too).. but the japanese way of combining cutsey kids and sex doesnt really impress me too much.

Post by **Icarus** » Fri Jul 28, 2006 5:10 pm

FFS! NOT SAFE FOR WORK! GODDAMNIT!
ｲﾔ(≧ヘ≦ ))(( ≧ヘ≦)ｲﾔ

EDIT: Thank you for removing the image embed! I don't have to stare at potential CP while browsing this thread now.

Ord · Post by **Ord** » Fri Jul 28, 2006 5:20 pm

And that is pretty fucking gross too. There's a world of difference between that scorpions cover, and a hand drawn cover of a young woman with large breasts and a short skirt sitting on a giant bug.

sven666 · Post by **sven666** » Fri Jul 28, 2006 5:33 pm

sorry bout that guys, guess i should've mentioned something, didnt think of it cause.. well.. i bet atleast 10 members have the record in their collection

but yeah i definetly think there are paralells to be drawn between the two covers... i guess the purpouse is kinda different tho, one is meant to shock and the other to sex you up.

Post by **Icarus** » Fri Jul 28, 2006 5:38 pm

sven666 wrote:but yeah i definetly think there are paralells to be drawn between the two covers... i guess the purpouse is kinda different tho, one is meant to shock and the other to sex you up.

Somehow I doubt Reko is meant to 'sex you up'. Its just a picture of a cartoon girl with slightly over-proportioned features. That Scorpions cover is borderline CP. Huge world of difference.

My eyes are fucking bleeding now.

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Fri Jul 28, 2006 7:10 pm

bloodflowers wrote:Strange - Reko looks younger IMHO.

I'm w/ you, hence, I thought it would be a prequel. Aki (if that's him) looks younger (and alive, of course). She does have some cans on her, that's for sure.

Valgar · Post by **Valgar** » Fri Jul 28, 2006 7:15 pm

Hey now, she has blossomed and that kid is looking at her pretty intently. She is probably pretty horny, which can spur growth.

sffan · Post by **sffan** » Fri Jul 28, 2006 7:45 pm

Wow. I haven't seen that Scorpions cover in years. I always wish I had bought it when I lived in Belgium in the early eighties, since it's so outrageous and probably pretty rare by now. The only reason I didn't buy it was because most of the songs were on Best of Scorpions, which I had.

elvis · Post by **elvis** » Sat Jul 29, 2006 2:11 am

BulletMagnet wrote:As I said, most people aren't going to abandon the game just because of superficial aspects: learn (again) to separate the extreme from the moderate.

That is the case for me. I have no interest in said underage hentai girlies, but that doesn't stop me buying the games entirely due to the fact that I've never yet purchased a game in my life for the sake of eye candy (whether it's fan-service or enormous volumes of shaded megatexels, ala the net-gen console fanbois).

I'm a raving Cave fanboi for the Cave game mechanics. And I can always remove the cover art from the game anyway, and store them in plain black boxes.

Valgar wrote:That beetle has at least 10 penises.

I laughed out loud. There's a point in every man's life when he needs to sit up and ask if he's had enough naughty-tentacle pr0n for one lifetime. And you sir should have asked yourself that question a while ago, methinks.

BeauZilla 002 · Post by **BeauZilla 002** » Sat Jul 29, 2006 3:28 am

More good games with more T & A?Whats the fucking problem?

Rastan78 · Post by **Rastan78** » Sat Jul 29, 2006 3:54 am

Icarus wrote:I'll be stocking up on beer and crisps first, then laughing my ass off at all the girls crying over Cave's use of an anime-styled character "degrading" their "manly" game.

I for one think we should go back to an era when men were men and games were graced with only the manliest of beautiful hand drawn 2D sprites.

Knoskoloz · Post by **Knoskoloz** » Sat Jul 29, 2006 3:05 pm

A bit fanservice doesn't hurt I prefer the T&A based anime characters over plain ships anyway

. As long as the games are good theres no really reason to complain and if Cave gets some more sales/popularity due to characters why not?

Cave should hurry up and make a Hentai Mushihime/Ibara Mahjong game.

Valgar · Post by **Valgar** » Sat Jul 29, 2006 5:34 pm

Hell, I've been waiting for Ketsui : Black Label. Where all the guys and machines are naked.