Switch 2 General Chat Thread (Aka, the final video game console)

[neorichieb1971]

I was thinking about getting a Switch 2. But I agree with some guy on youtube. At the moment its a MK world player.

I only have a mild interest in MK world. I prefer my karting games to be about karting, not gliding, grinding, flying, going under water and all that shite. I don't even like the gameplay of DK but I think it looks nice. Smashing rocks seems like fun but for me its like a tech demo, its looks nice but gets old quickly. I don't think i'd ever complete the game through lack of enthusiasm.

Am I the only one that thinks Nintendo of Japan is getting their system subsidized by the west? Nobody is covering this aspect at all. I guess i'm speculating but its a good $100 + cheaper and the games are about $20+ cheaper as well. But the system is region and language locked to Japanese. The yen is weak, I don't think i'm imagining this. I think that $100 cheaper means the true cost should be around $400, so the extra $50 for USA/EU is carried across to the Japanese version which makes it $100 cheaper.

I read yesterday that Nintendo stock holders are worried about Switch 2. Simply about the cost of game developement, prices and access to folk who can't afford it at the current prices.

[Steven]

I do not trust emulation to actually run games properly, nor do I trust ports to not be worse than the original, broken, or have missing things. ShotTriggers is an exception, and even then M2 still sometimes makes mistakes, like how the Same! Same! Same! stage clear jingle's implementation doesn't match the PCB like it should. It doesn't break the game or anything, but it is annoying that it's still ultimately inaccurate when it shouldn't be on the supposed ultimate version of the game, so if you demand perfection in things that you care about (and I think that someone who doesn't demand perfection in things that they claim to truly care about actually does not care about those things as much as they claim to), you're going to be disappointed, which is why real hardware still does and always will matter, at least until it all breaks and stops working, but I wouldn't be surprised if stuff like my Repulse PCB from 1985, which is already older than I am, outlives me. At least M2 Same! is cheaper than buying the PCB, which is rare and expensive.

Also lol youtube

In any case,

I was thinking about getting a Switch 2. But I agree with some guy on youtube. At the moment its a MK world player.

It's more like a "fix the games that run poorly on the Switch, which is a lot of things" system than anything else, most likely, provided that said poorly-performing Switch games don't have framerate caps below 60 FPS. This highlights one of the disappointing aspects of the system so far: most of its games seem to just be native Switch 2 versions of stuff that's been on other systems for a while now, so for people that actually care about modern games (not me, basically) it's an interesting situation because why would they want this thing when they already played these games years ago on more powerful hardware that is capable of better everything? Handheld mode, obviously, but that's about it.

It's somewhat amusing that supposedly that Konmai idol game, which is also a Switch 2 exclusive, is very possibly the best game on the system so far from what I have read, or at least a serious contender for that title, which I didn't expect, but here we are.

I'll probably get one of these things eventually, but for now, it's not a very attractive game system at all, especially with the pseudo everything-except-Nintendo-is-digital-only thing it has going on. It seems that in handheld mode it runs Switch games in handheld mode, which means that it's going to upscale what was possibly a sub-native resolution game on Switch to Switch 2's screen resolution, and that may or may not look worse than it does on the old Switch. I imagine there's probably a reason that it doesn't run Switch games in docked mode in handheld mode despite the supposed massive increase in power between the two (battery life or heat or something like that, perhaps), but if it can, that may be preferable on a game-to-game basis.

Am I the only one that thinks Nintendo of Japan is getting their system subsidized by the west? Nobody is covering this aspect at all. I guess i'm speculating but its a good $100 + cheaper and the games are about $20+ cheaper as well. But the system is region and language locked to Japanese. The yen is weak, I don't think i'm imagining this. I think that $100 cheaper means the true cost should be around $400, so the extra $50 for USA/EU is carried across to the Japanese version which makes it $100 cheaper.

I probably mentioned this before, but exchange rates and purchasing power parity both have to be considered at the same time when analyzing prices of goods in other countries. Make no mistake, Switch 2 is still very much a "$500" thing here, if you will, due to PPP, which is also the thing that makes it not unrealistic to say that games in general are also now in the $80~$100 range here, and that's before you get to boutique (for lack of a better word) developers/publishers like Innocent Grey, who's over here asking 15000 yen/$150 for their most recent games, but at least it's Innocent Grey, so it's worth it in their very special case. Again, if you just look at the exchange rate, yes, stuff is "cheaper", but PPP dictates that 100 yen in Japan has roughly the buying power of 100 cents in the USA, so for us, this thing is still pretty expensive. Then you get to the insanity of the PortStation 5 Pro's price and...

[Sumez]

Same goes for complaints about how the Exa is unfair for being expensive / Japanese exclusive, etc. A lot of the arcade games we take for granted existed because of the same model of arcade gaming that the Exa is following, but we're now really, really spoiled by emulation and think we're entitled to steal whatever we want without regard for the creators.

Eh, Exa opposition gets a pass. Their model has to be the most consumer-hateful I have ever seen in the video games industry, and it deserves to be taken apart completely!
There's no way in hell you could compare that to the classic arcade game business which came out of an orthogonally different climate, and was actually designed around making games available to people, rather than keeping them stupidly exclusive.