Extrems wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2024 2:53 am
Boot the 240p Test Suite, enable 480p modes under options, switch to 480p mixed 480p/240p assets (1:1), select the checkerboard under video tests.
If you get a solid gray screen, the 480p fix is a placebo.
Hmm, did we not come to the conclusion that the 480p bug was never actually fixed with this mythical BU99 chip? Or is it now that the BU99 one is the only one that fixes it, but CPU 40/60 models can have other encoder chips aside from that one so you can't tell unless you run the test suite or open it up?
Latest conclusion I heard is that only one encoder does anything with the 480p fix active, and you're not guaranteed to get it with any particular model. The alternative is an HDMI mod to bypass the encoder.
I did remember reading something like that, which is why people kept talking about the BU99 chip (which was the last one to be made?), but I thought the conclusion was nobody had just tested it at all and it was completely unconfirmed speculation.
I also remember seeing grabbing things like the WIi Sports Resort packs and other such bundles manufactured in late 2010 was probably the best chance to guarantee getting the BU99 models, but that assumes the BU99 was the last chip made and they were going through stocks of older chips before that.
EDIT: I think I misread. You're saying one encoder works with the 480p software fix and the rest don't, right? And none of the other encoders actually fixed it on a hardware level.
nostos156 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2024 11:25 am
EDIT: I think I misread. You're saying one encoder works with the 480p software fix and the rest don't, right? And none of the other encoders actually fixed it on a hardware level.
That's correct. Only the BU9055 can output proper 480p, and only with some coercing.
nostos156 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2024 11:25 am
EDIT: I think I misread. You're saying one encoder works with the 480p software fix and the rest don't, right? And none of the other encoders actually fixed it on a hardware level.
That's correct. Only the BU9055 can output proper 480p, and only with some coercing.
How ironic that it is the 6-layer old Wii (that easily suffers from GPU overheating issues over time) is the one with the only 480p fix possible short of a soldered HDMI mod.
Still, I wonder why the guy with the BU99 chip was showing a proper checkerboard pattern on his tests?
RebeL9 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 19, 2024 10:28 pm
We urgently need a universal fix for all revisions!!!
It was being worked on earlier in the year, but I haven't heard a single thing beyond the initial steps to try and figure out if the functionality for fixing this was still in the newer encoders or removed for cost-cutting reasons.
nostos156 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2024 11:25 am
EDIT: I think I misread. You're saying one encoder works with the 480p software fix and the rest don't, right? And none of the other encoders actually fixed it on a hardware level.
That's correct. Only the BU9055 can output proper 480p, and only with some coercing.
How ironic that it is the 6-layer old Wii (that easily suffers from GPU overheating issues over time) is the one with the only 480p fix possible short of a soldered HDMI mod.
Still, I wonder why the guy with the BU99 chip was showing a proper checkerboard pattern on his tests?
I have a Wii incompatible with the fix, (a BU99 AVE chip just like theirs) so the checkerboard test shows up as a solid grey screen. I can attest that the BU99 is INCOMPATIBLE with the 480p fix.
If you were to accidentally turn off the scanlines, and use the '480p scanlines with 240p scaled assets' setting, which i did mistakenly the first time, the checkerboard appears as it should, (clearly defined black and white squares on screen and NOT a solid grey screen) which is why I disputed BU99 chips being incompatible with the 480p patch earlier, but this is not the proper test. The checkerboard on screen in that resolution setting is 320 x 240, instead of the proper 640 x 480.
this is just a hypothesis
TL;DR
the BU99 is incompatible. the BU90 remains the only known chip to be compatible with the 480p fix.
We’ve been going in circles. At this point I’m pretty confident that the only patchable revisions are the launch model Wiis. They are the only one that will give the sharpest output.
In other words. The vast majority of Wiis have inferior video output because the idiots at Nintendo messed it up.
The same way they messed up PAL Wii U that don’t do progressive scan in VWii.
BOYCOTT NINTENDO
RebeL9 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2024 9:34 pm
We’ve been going in circles. At this point I’m pretty confident that the only patchable revisions are the launch model Wiis. They are the only one that will give the sharpest output.
In other words. The vast majority of Wiis have inferior video output because the idiots at Nintendo messed it up.
The same way they messed up PAL Wii U that don’t do progressive scan in VWii.
BOYCOTT NINTENDO
Only patchable ones *for now*. The 480p bug wasn't even discovered until 2019, so it could take a while for a fix to show up for the other models. I haven't yet heard anyone say definitely that the registers that were fuzzed in the fixable chip have been removed in the newer ones. And, at the end of the day, the 480p bug isn't the worst problem. If anything, it can be a slight benefit on modern HD displays as it adds a bit of antialiasing to the picture. It's still far better than vWii mode on a Wii U with its busted chroma and scaling.
