Darius (Original) Arcade/PCE

DC906270 · Post by **DC906270** » Wed Feb 15, 2006 9:15 pm

Thought i'd start a new thread for this

Listing rules:

Seperate the game you acheived your hi score by format:

i.e. ARCADE or PC ENGINE CD(Super) or PC ENGINE HuCARD (Plus)

I believe the game is pretty similar for all these versions, although screen displays and scores will differ so that is why i plan on making seperate tables for each of these 3 (tho i doubt that many players will participate due to the game being pretty ancient)

Although imo an absolute CLASSIC

Auto ON OK - lemme know if this causes concern among you HC players

I'll start :

'SUPER' DARIUS - PC ENGINE CD

1. Kollision - 5,441,700 - ALL CLEAR ABDHMRX - Auto ON
2. PlasmaBlooD - 4,720,900 Stage W ALL Clear No Miss - ABDHMRW Auto ON
3. Zach Keene - 3,724,100 - Stage R - ABDHMR - Auto ON
4. DC906270 - 2,359,850 - Stage O - Path unknown - Auto ON
5. Bloodreign - 1,791,600- Stage ABDH Auto On

DARIUS 'PLUS' HuCARD

1. tinotormed - 5,794,550 - ALL (ABDHMSX) - Auto ON
2. PlasmaBlooD - 5,787,200 - Stage X All Clear(NoMiss) - ACEHMSX - Auto on
3. Kollision - 5,452,550 - ALL CLEAR ABDGKPZ - Autofire ON
4. PlasmaBlooD - 5.331.000 - Stage V All Clear - path unknow - Auto on
5. CIT - 5,154,600 - Stage X All Clear - ACEHMRX - Auto on

DARIUS - ARCADE/MAME

1. Smraedis - 5,623,160 - Stage X - All Clear - ACEHMRX - Autofire On
2. DEL - 4,590,990 - Stage X - All Clear - (Route ?) - No Autofire
3. CHI - 4,340,170 - StageX - All Clear - Auto On
4. ZNG - 4,015,170 - Stage X - All Clear - ABDHMRX - Autofire On
5. gs68 - 1,746,490 - Zone G - ABDG - Auto On
6. Estebang - 1031200 - Zone E - ACE - Auto On
7. roadrunner - 396,340 - Zone C - off

SUPER DARIUS BOSS RUSH [super darius]
noted by Plasmablood : Super Darius/Darius Alpha Boss Rush not identical.

1. PlasmaBlooD - 4,704,700 - Stage Y - Auto ON
2. Zach Keene - 1,187,400 - Stage I - Auto ON
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PlasmaBlooD · Post by **PlasmaBlooD** » Wed Feb 15, 2006 10:41 pm

Darius Plus:
PlasmaBlooD - 5.331.000 - Stage V All Clear - path unknow - Auto on

Super Darius (PCE)
PlasmaBlooD - 4,720,900 Stage W ALL Clear No Miss - ABDHMRW - Auto on

The Highscorepictures are in the Replay from Super Darius.i upload the replay on Super-play.co.uk or you download the videoreplay on my Homepage www.shooterecke.de

Smraedis · Post by **Smraedis** » Wed Feb 15, 2006 11:01 pm

Darius Arcade (well MAME..) old score too..

Smraedis - 5,239,990 - Stage X - All Clear - (will check path later) - No Autofire

DC906270 · Post by **DC906270** » Thu Feb 16, 2006 8:28 am

Ah well looks like my hi score didnt last for long

Havnt played this in a while, but the game is pretty much memory based, so should be able to improve with a bit of practice

Great scores btw

Smraedis · Post by **Smraedis** » Thu Feb 16, 2006 8:55 am

The path is ACEHMRX

Thanks, if I can remember, that score was about the 10th time I finished that path..

PlasmaBlooD · Post by **PlasmaBlooD** » Thu Feb 16, 2006 9:09 am

Stage X Endboss octopus is very heavy

DC906270 · Post by **DC906270** » Thu Feb 16, 2006 1:44 pm

Congrats Smraedis on getting an ALL without 'cheating' and using autofire

your thumb must have hurt after that

also, the game is very slow to respond and you have to be super-accurate with your shots to get good score on the PCE version without auto, that is why i turn it On

edit : there is a rank system, based on the amount of power ups collected. my current strategy is to max out the red power-up bar at 1st level so as to have 3 lasers, keep the green power up bar at the 1st notch on the 2nd level (so you get dual bombs) and collect the shield power up to the first notch on the 2nd level, so you get the silver shield.

will be playing this game when i get home to-night

Zach Keene · Post by **Zach Keene** » Wed Jun 28, 2006 5:39 am

Super Darius:
Zach Keene - 2,496,400 - Stage O - ACFJO - Auto ON

DC906270 wrote:2. DC906270 - 2,359,850 - Stage O - Path unknown - Auto ON

There's only one path to stage O.

DEL · Post by **DEL** » Wed Jun 28, 2006 8:16 am

Darius - Arcade (in the arcade cerca 1987

)
DEL - 4,590,990 - Stage X - All Clear - (Route ?) - No Autofire was available

Can't remember the route as it was 19 years ago

, but the score is exact, as i wrote it down at the time.
I loved this game in its full 3-screen cabinet & ALLed all the routes. My X Route was my highest score - 69.1% of WR.

Regs, DEL

DEL · Post by **DEL** » Wed Jun 28, 2006 8:22 am

Smraedis - Your X score is very good! = 78.9% of the WR

X Route WR = 6,641,040

mulletgeezer · Post by **mulletgeezer** » Wed Jun 28, 2006 8:59 pm

i used to love this in the arcade on the 3 screen cab too, though i don't bother playing it at home any more as it's just not the same. most of the chaps at my local arcade picked the same route: ABDHMRX which is a dead easy route (as long as you avoid powering up to the laser until after fighting Fatty Glutton) and quite high scoring. We used to destroy all but one of the arms on the X octopus boss, then survive as long as possible while bombing those small enemies. If you do this with each life and then finish the boss on your last life you can get a score of over 6 million if i remember rightly. i imagine this would be tricky on Super Darius though as the octopus boss is much harder due to being so close - and doesn't Super Darius use a respawn instead of restart points? My memory is a bit hazy here. One thing i never did work out - are the white bonus pods random or can max score be obtained by timing it in some way?

DEL · Post by **DEL** » Wed Jun 28, 2006 9:13 pm

mulletgeezer - I'd also like to have known whether there's a timing for the silver/white pods. I seem to remember a friend telling me there was. I never milked Darius in the arcade, mainly because we didn't choose this one to compete on amongst ourselves (plus I was 16/17). I was more concerned with ALLing every route.

mulletgeezer · Post by **mulletgeezer** » Wed Jun 28, 2006 9:50 pm

yeah i don't blame you for not milking it as it is a bit pointless. i don't think we were even competing with each other all that much, it was more of a value for money thing probably (which is sad, but i was 15 at the time and pocket money needed to be stretched

) As far as i know the last boss could be milked forever, though it gets very tricky once those weird cube things have been around for a while. Also the other bosses can be milked for the cube things but has to be done with care as a mistake can screw your game very quickly. If you are sure that WR is accurate then i reckon if we have dedicated/skilled milkers here then someone may be able to beat that score and claim a WR for the shmups forum. Bagsy head cheerleader!

Zach Keene · Post by **Zach Keene** » Wed Jun 28, 2006 10:05 pm

New Super Darius score:
Zach Keene - 3,724,100 - Stage R - ABDHMR - Auto ON

There's no table for it, but here's my Boss Rush score anyway (why doesn't the game keep a separate list for this?):
Zach Keene - 1,187,400 - Stage I - Auto ON

Smraedis · Post by **Smraedis** » Thu Jun 29, 2006 11:07 am

Thanks DEL, I did try to milk the end boss on all my ships though, but it just gets a little boring when you just bomb and dodge and bomb and dodge..

I could try to improve my score, was done years ago now..

Smraedis · Post by **Smraedis** » Mon Jul 03, 2006 7:15 pm

Okay, I'm now trying to improve my score, I'm using autofire at the moment, it seems to make it easier to get the wave bonuses.

With how I'm playing at the moment, 5.5 million is easily possible, I should have got it on my run earlier but I ended up shooting the end boss on the life before last.
I've also noticed that the end boss milking (well for zone X) is harder with the wave shot, so I'm not too sure to power up that far now.

Smraedis · Post by **Smraedis** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 10:15 pm

Right, I made some improvement now

Smraedis - 5,623,160 - Stage X - All Clear - ACEHMRX - Autofire On

Just over a million under the record now, and this is with hitting almost every single enemy in the whole game, not too great at the milking parts yet, I only got 1.3 million on the end boss.

mulletgeezer · Post by **mulletgeezer** » Wed Jul 05, 2006 6:25 pm

you're doing well! i know what you mean about wave on the X boss, it's height makes it hard to shoot the tentacles one at a time and it's easy to kill the boss without meaning to. maybe if you shoot the top tentacles first and then the lower ones and leave the middle ones until last? staying with laser is probably better but having minimum laser after losing a ship is so uncool. i have a few more thoughts that might help your score though they are probably a bit obvious:

1. are you destroying all the parts of the other bosses? i seem to remember it's quite easy to kill a couple of them with parts remaining.

2. are you avoiding the golden bomb pod things? i think they don't score any points for what they destroy.

3. we used to find that staying quite far forward in M scored lots of points by allowing all the weapons to hit the asteroids, rather than staying at the back of the screen.

Smraedis · Post by **Smraedis** » Wed Jul 05, 2006 7:49 pm

I'm just staying on the lazer at the moment, seems to cause less problems

1. are you destroying all the parts of the other bosses? i seem to remember it's quite easy to kill a couple of them with parts remaining.

Yes, I'm trying my best to do so.

2. are you avoiding the golden bomb pod things? i think they don't score any points for what they destroy.

I haven't noticed any drop in scores from using those pods, and after checking a mame replay, it just adds the correct score.

3. we used to find that staying quite far forward in M scored lots of points by allowing all the weapons to hit the asteroids, rather than staying at the back of the screen.

I've not tried this one yet, my best method has been using the 4-way missiles, and going up and down at the back of the screen, but I'll try it.

Zach Keene · Post by **Zach Keene** » Thu Jul 06, 2006 8:27 pm

Smraedis wrote:
2. are you avoiding the golden bomb pod things? i think they don't score any points for what they destroy.
I haven't noticed any drop in scores from using those pods, and after checking a mame replay, it just adds the correct score.

I can't speak for any other version of the game, but for the record you get no score for Yellow Orbed enemies in Super Darius.

Smraedis · Post by **Smraedis** » Thu Jul 06, 2006 10:34 pm

Had 1 run today so far, scoring worse now somehow

not sure how I could shoot the shootable parts on Fatty Gluton, only the one near the front is easy to do..

and I was getting points when using the golden bomb things too, to say that it works on the arcade version.

mulletgeezer · Post by **mulletgeezer** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 12:43 pm

i decided to try playing this on MAME yesterday. i went by the old ABDHMRX route, it went ok but i missed the 1up in M and died twice on X, then did a little milking on the boss to finish with a not very good score of about 4.7 million. I then tried playing through ACE and found my score to be about 300k higher than ABD, so ACEHMRX could well be the most high scoring route as MRX scores really well. I played today through ACEHMRX and using one save state (accidental death on Keen Bayonet) i reached the X boss with only 4 million and then milked the boss for 1.2M to end the game with just over 5.2M. I reched the bit where the cubes start firing on four lives of the six and on one i messed up and lost about 100k, so i reckon it would be very difficult to get much over 1.3M on the boss as once the cubes start shooting survival becomes very difficult.

And then i remembered the other method - some players used to suicide just before the end of X. I tried this a couple of times and i managed 300k point gains a couple of times, better than suiciding on the boss where i could only gain about 200k each time. I reckon this could be the key to 6 million+, also i strongly suspect that the white bubbles can be timed for max points as without doing that it's hard to see how 6.6M could be gained unless there is another route that scores higher than ACEHMRX.

Also i find shooting fatty glutton's lower part tricky and almost died while going for it as the exploding fish were getting too close to dodge. probably best not to bother with that one.

Smraedis · Post by **Smraedis** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 12:07 pm

I sure tried all the combonations for the first few stages, and going ACE did seem to make the most points of all. However, I think that stage I (instead of H) gains just a bit more points, but feels a much difficult stage at the moment.

I've been writing down how much score I make on each stage, and also what I have just before the end boss too, so I know the best I have got on the X boss is 1,342,600, and 1.6m seems to be the maximum possible for it.

I'll try the dying just before the end boss idea soonish, and will post results of it later.

Edit - I've been trying the dying at the end of X trick, it seems to work, but the end of the stage is really hard with a standard laser, will have to try some more..

Smraedis · Post by **Smraedis** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 11:13 pm

meh.. lots of plays and no improvement of score

I can't really seem to get much more points on the stages, and if I do, its just because of the silver pods.. it seems so random.

CHI · Post by **CHI** » Sat Oct 07, 2006 6:58 pm

DARIUS MAME.....

CHI - 4,340,170 - StageX - All Clear - Auto On

as 'smraedis' mentioned the ACEHMRX route i gave that a try, and after 6 games i end up 1LC the game.....

i did not go for the score, i just wanted to get use to it.....
during my gameplay, i think it plays better or even a better score not having WAVE or LASER, just full power on MISSILE (red)..... and the other 2 power ups (green and blue) of course.....

ok next time round!

EDIT: http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k203/ ... Darius.jpg

zinger · Post by **zinger** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 11:41 am

CHI wrote:DARIUS MAME.....

CHI - 4,340,170 - StageX - All Clear - Auto On

as 'smraedis' mentioned the ACEHMRX route i gave that a try, and after 6 games i end up 1LC the game.....
i did not go for the score, i just wanted to get use to it.....

Ditto.

I didn't score as high though:

ZNG - 4,015,170 - Stage X - All Clear - ABDHMRX - Autofire On

Bloodreign · Post by **Bloodreign** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 2:00 pm

Time to resurrect from the dead this grand topic on a good shooter.

Super Darius (PCE CD) 1,184,300 Stage E (path ACE) Auto On- Bloodreign

The bane of my existence is the boss of Zone C, spread shots and large green lasers, lasers are easy to dodge, fast spread isn't.

Bloodreign · Post by **Bloodreign** » Sat Jan 26, 2008 4:07 am

Not considered a huge improvement but for me but it's enough of one to say I need to practice this bad boy some more.

Super Darius (PCE CD) - 1,230,500 Stage E (path ACE) Auto On- Bloodreign

Stage C boss I died once to, in zone E I was going well for awhile, about midway through my game fell apart and I died with the rest of my lives, not to mention most of the white bonus balls were being cheap, with values between 50 and 1,600 points. Anyone knows what triggers these balls values?

lgb · Post by **lgb** » Wed Jul 09, 2008 6:46 pm

Does the HuCard "Darius Alpha" count? It's a boss rush.

Are there any concrete differences between Darius Plus and Super Darius? For Darius Alpha/Super Darius' boss rush?

DC906270 · Post by **DC906270** » Sun Jul 13, 2008 8:52 pm

Dunno