OSSC Pro

[jaffa225man]

Hi
Thanks for the response ^^
I just buy it last week, can't wait to have it home ^^

You're welcome, and I know how you feel! I had to wait for the second batch too. I hope the new features astound you, as they have for me.

[tongshadow]

Marco (the guy who makes downscaling videos) just made a review on the OSSC Pro:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7LVbd4jfNw

[marqs]

Just purchased, can't wait!

Can I get a part number for the amber display used for the initial batch. Want to swap displays ASAP, thanks.

https://newhavendisplay.com/2x20-charac ... ed-module/

You also need to solder a header like this into it.

[fafangus]

Hi
Thanks for the response ^^
I just buy it last week, can't wait to have it home ^^

You're welcome, and I know how you feel! I had to wait for the second batch too. I hope the new features astound you, as they have for me.

Yes just received it last week, I was not able to do many tests for now, but I actually used it as a donwscaler for my jvc 15k crt & pc 31k, it work like a charm & the crt 120hz is freaking beautifull on the 31k ^^
And I love how fast it does 480i/240p transition !!!
Just tested few snes/amiga/neogeo/ps1/saturn games and it works like a charm with 1440p ^^
Have a batch of tests to do with my full setup, and I have to put it in harmony with my 4k setup to have the hdmi in to work with all my HD/4k console :p

[Zacabeb]

Just purchased, can't wait!

Can I get a part number for the amber display used for the initial batch. Want to swap displays ASAP, thanks.

https://newhavendisplay.com/2x20-charac ... ed-module/

You also need to solder a header like this into it.

Edit: Maybe I'm wrong about the following and the Newhaven display does use similar character shapes as the Raystar and Winstar? Looking at the datasheets the character design seems to be the same, unlike the product photos that show a bold version (and the photo on the Newhaven website which seems to show a different model altogether from the listed product.) My OSSC Pro hahs a Winstar OLED, but it also seems to be unavailable for individual purchase anywhere.

Edit 2: Here's a yellow version of the same Newhaven display, which I guess might be closer to the amber of the Raystar/Winstar dsiplays (note that Newhaven only have a handful in stock since they've been discontinued):
https://newhavendisplay.com/2x20-charac ... ed-module/

I imagine that a red display would look pretty amazing though on the OSSC Pro.

Original reply:
Just wanted to point out that the Newhaven display has a different style font (and possibly a different color) than the Raystar/Winstar displays used originally, but the latter don't seem to be available for individual purchase anywhere, only sold directly to OEMs. So the display won't look the exact same – maybe SGGG2 could swap displays with someone who wants a white display in their 1st batch OSSC Pro?

It's a bit of a shame the Raystar and Winstar displays aren't available because I too would have loved an amber display. There's a retro vibe to that.

[SGGG2]

There's no need to replace the display, I bought a pack of lighting gels, cut a red sheet to size, and stuck it in between the LCD and display shield. It looks almost identical

https://www.amazon.com/WEINIDASI-Correc ... B0CNRWYJMY

Some VERY early impressions:

Case is nice.
No analog audio out is a bit of a bummer.
Remote is surprisingly great, wish it was black.
The OSD is a LOT more responsive than the original OSSC.
There's a lot more to the OSD on the Pro, so it will take a while to learn everything.
The front panel is extremely helpful and looks great.
Adaptive mode (720p, 1080p) works with a Blackmagic Intensity Pro 4k, the original OSSC did not work at all.
The 352 Saturn preset looks amazing, it might even be too good, I think I prefer generic 4:3 with no phase adjustments, it has a softer, more natural look.
Saturn shows a ton of interference in grays, this wasn't the case on my OSSC/DSC-301 set up.
"Noninterlaced restore" on 1080i from a PS2 (via GSM) looks almost as good as motion adaptive deinterlacing if you can't spare the frame. It's a bit jittery in comparison. So far I still prefer to use the DSC for 1080i over any of the options here. EDIT: Results for Noninterlace are title dependent.

[Zacabeb]

If you feel that GS Sharp scaling is too sharp in Scaler mode, I have made two variants of MISTer format custom filters that I use on my OSSC Pro. You can just copy each into a text file and save it as scaler1.txt or scaler2.txt on a microSD card.

First off, a semi-soft filter that is 25% nearest-neighbor and 75% sinusoidal. This gives a slightly softer an image than GS Sharp and is what I use with optimized modes for 240p/288p/480i/576i games.

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# 64-phase Hybrid Nearest-Neighbor and Sine

# Coefficients
   0, 128,   0,   0
   0, 128,   0,   0
   0, 128,   0,   0
   0, 128,   0,   0
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Second, a fully sinusoidal filter giving a yet softer image. This is more useful for 480p/576p games and above.

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# 64-phase Sinusoidal Scale

# Coefficients
   0, 128,   0,   0
   0, 128,   0,   0
   0, 128,   0,   0
   0, 127,   1,   0
   0, 127,   1,   0
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You can also download any 64-phase MISTer filter and use that, although you can't have separate filters for horizontal and vertical scaling like on the MISTer. I'm hoping that feature might be added to the OSSC Pro at some point since it would be helpful in making generic modes look smoother and more CRT-like, as well as allow for vertical filters with integrated scanlines.

[SGGG2]

I was referring to adaptive mode, but don't hesitate to share anything here.

Marqs, please restore "480i interlaced line 3x Passthrough" to Pure Mode. I realize compatibility is low, but using the Extron DSC-301 for deinterlacing this is hands down the best alternative I've found for PS2 games that can't be forced into 1080i with GSM.

EDIT: It's there I misread it.

[Zacabeb]

I was referring to adaptive mode, but don't hesitate to share anything here.

I had a feeling you were talking about A-LM. I'm personally pretty obsessed with Scaler mode, since it lets me completely trim away any underscan when using polyphase scaling. I find the one field delay to be worth it.

[Hoagtech]

I just received the OSSC pro today and am amazed so far with its PRO CRT compatibility and appreciate the default of integer modes allowing me test scanline settings properly on 31khz up to 1280x1024 37” CRT.

I have lots of questions but will save them for next week after reading the quick start and discovering display modes myself.

One question thats probably been asked. Are you planning on making a DAC analog output expansion for EXP port?

The current batch of DAC are so hit and miss from China. I hardly ever get the same one twice and its black range and jitter ruin the experience for me when it happens.




Mostly just wanted to say thanks @marqs and Matt B for the quick and careful shipment.

[LDigital]

I just received the OSSC pro today and am amazed so far with its PRO CRT compatibility and appreciate the default of integer modes allowing me test scanline settings properly on 31khz up to 1280x1024 37” CRT.

I have lots of questions but will save them for next week after reading the quick start and discovering display modes myself.

One question thats probably been asked. Are you planning on making a DAC analog output expansion for EXP port?

The current batch of DAC are so hit and miss from China. I hardly ever get the same one twice and its black range and jitter ruin the experience for me when it happens.




Mostly just wanted to say thanks @marqs and Matt B for the quick and careful shipment.

It’s just been launched

https://videogameperfection.com/product ... -out-ossc/

[Hoagtech]

I just received the OSSC pro today and am amazed so far with its PRO CRT compatibility and appreciate the default of integer modes allowing me test scanline settings properly on 31khz up to 1280x1024 37” CRT.

I have lots of questions but will save them for next week after reading the quick start and discovering display modes myself.

One question thats probably been asked. Are you planning on making a DAC analog output expansion for EXP port?

The current batch of DAC are so hit and miss from China. I hardly ever get the same one twice and its black range and jitter ruin the experience for me when it happens.




Mostly just wanted to say thanks @marqs and Matt B for the quick and careful shipment.

It’s just been launched

https://videogameperfection.com/product ... -out-ossc/

OMG this is a game changer. I've been using it for the last 24 hours on my Mitsubishi Megaview XC3725C 37" CRT and am blown away by the ease of use so far.

A couple of small defaults do need to be changed to be able to use the features of the PRO on a CRT.

No Audio passthrough so you need to set the 3.5 to audio out instead of input. and Scaler mode will not work on most CRT or PC monitors by default as its set at 1080p if I remember off the top of my head? I had to set the scaler mode to output in an acceptable range to be able to hook up my mini consoles 1280x1024. It was a reasonable path after reading the PDF manual and Junker wiki but I thought the Scaler function was broken before education. Pure and AL are set to a lower output resolution by default so just a heads up for users using monitors under 1080p.

One thing I could not figure out is how to move the OSD from the far left of the screen. It displays outside my gaming boundary and I couldn't find a simple fix lol.

One other feature I have yet to dip my toes into is screen filters. So far the basic custom scanline functions control my horizontal and vertical but I would like to see more features akin to modern FPGA such as dot pixel and CRT masks. I'm not sure if this has been addressed in the last 70 pages but I'm throwing it out there.

I cant wait to test it scale features hooked up to a Super Gameboy.

So far I'm blown away and can only imagine the black crush will be much better than my Tendak when the DAC EXP arrives

[marqs]

Firmware v0.75 has been released:

* added support for Legacy AV in expansion
* added support for YPbPr output via extra_av_out expansion
* added support for custom EDID on HDMI RX
* added VRR flag (Freesync) option
* enabled customization of frame-unlock mode refresh rate
* improved audio output compatibility
* various small bug fixes

Additional information on VGP thread.

[Josh128]

I just received the OSSC pro today and am amazed so far with its PRO CRT compatibility and appreciate the default of integer modes allowing me test scanline settings properly on 31khz up to 1280x1024 37” CRT.

I have lots of questions but will save them for next week after reading the quick start and discovering display modes myself.

One question thats probably been asked. Are you planning on making a DAC analog output expansion for EXP port?

The current batch of DAC are so hit and miss from China. I hardly ever get the same one twice and its black range and jitter ruin the experience for me when it happens.




Mostly just wanted to say thanks @marqs and Matt B for the quick and careful shipment.

It’s just been launched

https://videogameperfection.com/product ... -out-ossc/

OMG this is a game changer. I've been using it for the last 24 hours on my Mitsubishi Megaview XC3725C 37" CRT and am blown away by the ease of use so far.

A couple of small defaults do need to be changed to be able to use the features of the PRO on a CRT.

No Audio passthrough so you need to set the 3.5 to audio out instead of input. and Scaler mode will not work on most CRT or PC monitors by default as its set at 1080p if I remember off the top of my head? I had to set the scaler mode to output in an acceptable range to be able to hook up my mini consoles 1280x1024. It was a reasonable path after reading the PDF manual and Junker wiki but I thought the Scaler function was broken before education. Pure and AL are set to a lower output resolution by default so just a heads up for users using monitors under 1080p.

One thing I could not figure out is how to move the OSD from the far left of the screen. It displays outside my gaming boundary and I couldn't find a simple fix lol.

One other feature I have yet to dip my toes into is screen filters. So far the basic custom scanline functions control my horizontal and vertical but I would like to see more features akin to modern FPGA such as dot pixel and CRT masks. I'm not sure if this has been addressed in the last 70 pages but I'm throwing it out there.

I cant wait to test it scale features hooked up to a Super Gameboy.

So far I'm blown away and can only imagine the black crush will be much better than my Tendak when the DAC EXP arrives

Since when does it come with a metal case? Thought it was a white 3D printed one?

[Hoagtech]

@Josh128

Im not sure of the metal used but it is nice!

Looking forward to the update too

[Zacabeb]

The case is still plastic (ABS?), but the black ones are injection moulded instead of 3D printed. While not metal, it is good quality.

[jaffa225man]

I just received the OSSC pro today and am amazed so far with its PRO CRT compatibility and appreciate the default of integer modes allowing me test scanline settings properly on 31khz up to 1280x1024 37” CRT.

I'm enjoying the CRT modes myself, for my projector that accepts only up to 1080i, but looks exceptionally beautiful using 1280x960 & 1024x768.

One thing I could not figure out is how to move the OSD from the far left of the screen. It displays outside my gaming boundary and I couldn't find a simple fix lol.

While you can't move the OSD display separately, you can use Scaler Opt.'s "Adv. timing"->"Size / crop" to zoom out on the picture and remove the overscan. After doing that, I return to "Adv. timing" and then go to "Position" to center it as best I can (but my projector auto-resizes when it resyncs so centering is a bit hit and miss on different boots).

One other feature I have yet to dip my toes into is screen filters. So far the basic custom scanline functions control my horizontal and vertical but I would like to see more features akin to modern FPGA such as dot pixel and CRT masks. I'm not sure if this has been addressed in the last 70 pages but I'm throwing it out there.

They may be found in "Post-proc."->"Shadow mask", in case you haven't noticed it yet.

I love my OSSC Pro too! Thanks Marqs, Matt and anyone who's helped with testing and/or bug reporting!