The Epic Saga of The Game Paradise + Radirgy Swag Preorders: YEAR 5!

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waiwainl wrote: Tue Oct 17, 2023 7:44 pm Awesome write up of the story :mrgreen:

Though, not as early of 2019, but 2020, I found my email of the pre-order :roll:
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I did receive the download code for Game Paradise (27 aug 2021), which was working, still have the game on my Switch.

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So this is my most expensive digital game *ever* :shock:

I still have hope 🙏 - though not expecting anything anymore 😞

Please keep up with updating post #1 :wink:
As the guy who wrote a lot of the articles cited at points in post 1, expect nothing. It’s a unicorn miracle you got the code at all as several were ghosted by brian on tengoku and radirgy codes. Likely only got a basic batch from Nintendo/The devs was issued and no more.

Now Radirgy is delisted and Schorr has gone to the wind again with next to no chance in hell he’ll come back out again. I hung my hat up on dispatch articles as it started to have no point + I was getting stupid hate over them near the end, (not from here though, you guys are rad) and having Nintendolife refuse to credit me for the last ones they covered (delisted games was awesome for their radirgy article though) was really scummy too lol. (even if NL articles were the ones often lighting a fire under Brian)

So yeah. I got nothing. Expect nothing. Brian Schorr is the lone party responsible at this point (though i don’t know why the CC guys wont call him out and hired him for Gimmick Special…) and he’s dodging everything instead of just being blunt about why it fell through or at least giving people their damn refunds. Those who had orders canceled but no money returned got screwed the absolute most and I feel that has to be illegal.
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and having Nintendolife refuse to credit me for the last ones they covered (delisted games was awesome for their radirgy article though) was really scummy too lol. (even if NL articles were the ones often lighting a fire under Brian)

While this is another conversation, I think I've finally made peace with the fact that the whole 'crediting sources' thing (and perhaps the entire 'journalistic integrity' thing) is something buried with grandpa. Copy and paste whatever you like, slap your name and ads all over it, if you get paid and the other person didn't, that just means you're a boss and the other person is a hater. The world is a pr firm that works for you, gratis.
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I doubt if he will actually give me back money :wink:
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I pretty much considered my investment into TGP and RS all but gone over a year ago. It's become a running joke on my podcast. IF stuff ever materializes, it will be a minor miracle. I was fortunate enough to have got codes for both games, but it certainly isn't what I paid for.
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City connection and Nintendo should both say more - at least to the extent as to the status of one of their licensees.

At the moment no one is saying anything worthwhile and effectively peddling the myth of these games - if the license is dead they should do so.

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Suspect the uncomfortable truth was that none of these games sold well. And print run numbers and/or other production/license restrictions, prevented the shipping of any product that might have been available.

New cash was used to fund old productions.

No one said anything, everyone just wanted to protect their own position.
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gray117 wrote: Thu Oct 19, 2023 10:29 pm City connection and Nintendo should both say more - at least to the extent as to the status of one of their licensees.

At the moment no one is saying anything worthwhile and effectively peddling the myth of these games - if the license is dead they should do so.

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Suspect the uncomfortable truth was that none of these games sold well. And print run numbers and/or other production/license restrictions, prevented the shipping of any product that might have been available.

New cash was used to fund old productions.

No one said anything, everyone just wanted to protect their own position.
Nintendo won't do anything. They allow blatant asset flips, shitty porn tile-matchers and devs to repeatedly pull and re-publish the same game over and over (flooding the "new releases" section with shovelware that's already been released.)

They don't give a shit if you get ripped off. Hell, you can't even get a refund from them most times, for *any* reason.
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Sima Tuna wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 10:48 pm At least chargebacks let him know there's a time limit on this scam and he can't do it forever. Eventually, the information will disseminate to the rest of the internet and a large enough number of his audience will request chargebacks for him to feel the pinch. I also encourage people to send legal letters if they've been promised refunds that never came. Sellers in the english-speaking world have certain legal obligations which he is not adhering to.
We are 5 years on. The vast majority of people are WAY WAY WAY past any charge-back timeframe. The few dozen people who have ordered in the past 6-12 months after getting fooled into ordering aren't going to amount to much, and won't really cause any sort of "pinch" unfortunately. :(
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That was epic.
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Holy fuck, I can't believe this is still an active thread. This is awful. I've had bad preorder experiences before but never anything this bad. Andro Dunos 1&2 for Dreamcast took over a year and a half to actually ship after the preorder, but 5 years? I hope these guys aren't still trying to act like they're a legitimate business in any fashion
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tadaito wrote: Sun Sep 17, 2023 9:21 am
There are services that can (for free) help you draft legal requests that can be sent to his personal email, which is publicly available here, you can also send the legal request to the supplied address if you prefer letters, but it looks like the property registered for this domain was sold in 2021, so maybe not!.
There is also his address connected to the TN business to serve letters, of course, funnily, he moved to that state around early 2020, curious.

If you pursue this route, good luck out there!
Oh my, he reads this thread, in mid October he paid for WhoIS privacy and hid all his personal information and email, wow!

Funnily, Brian, you can actually look at the history of domains, I can still see your number, actual email, and full name, as can anyone who might be sending you a legal request.
Instead of reading a thread in a shmup forum, maybe you could ship your games?
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I also just noticed that the TN info i pulled up in the article last year was changed with a little note saying his business address was undeliverable. Sooooo he’s really gone ghost now :|
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I'd really laugh if these actually did theoretically get shipped and then someone plays it for the first time and realizes the game is kind of not that good and hates it after waiting all this time for it. Lol go spend your money on a better game! Try Sega Ages Virtua Racing; it's pretty rad, just like me.

I also laugh at the idea of this idiot for paying money to fail to hide his personal information instead of actually using it to ship the game. Like fuck dude your priorities are hilarious! By that I mean that they are wrong and you should feel bad.
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SeafoamGaming wrote: Sat Nov 25, 2023 1:15 pm I also just noticed that the TN info i pulled up in the article last year was changed with a little note saying his business address was undeliverable. Sooooo he’s really gone ghost now :|
Thanks for the money, dummies!

Seriously though, dude is a fucking scumbag and now his name will forever be mud in the games industry.
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If anyone did it recently and through a credit card, I was able to get Capital One to reverse the charges, especially when I told them the company had gone radio silent on socials.

They did ask if I attempted contact and for the company's information, but other than that, they're pretty chill about the process, especially when I said that I never received the product by the promised time.


I'm kind of sad I can't play it since it was taken off the NSW store, but not enough to wait for a thing I'll probably never get.
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Glad to hear you got a refund. Even if you don't get to play the game, at least you're not out any cash.

Every time I see a new post here I wonder if there was something new from them, but no, still total silence. I don't understand what they thought they were doing with the fake product shipping announcement.
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I'm kind of sad I can't play it since it was taken off the NSW store, but not enough to wait for a thing I'll probably never get.

You can still get it via the Illmatic cart
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m.sniffles.esq wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2023 10:58 am I'm kind of sad I can't play it since it was taken off the NSW store, but not enough to wait for a thing I'll probably never get.

You can still get it via the Illmatic cart
Did it get a translated release?
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Unfortunately, no. It only plays in Japanese.
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So... is the saga over? Did everyone simply give up?
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Dispatch Games guy certainly did.

The real answer is he's currently in the "quiet phase" of his scam. He alternates between openly lying on social media that the games are 1-2 seconds away from shipping, to going completely radio silent for months/years.

There's a shmup on switch that I specifically refuse to purchase because Dispatch games currently holds the license.
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Oh yeah, Game Tengoku exists. This game does not work on Steam Deck. That is all I have to say.
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Nnnn wrote: Tue Mar 12, 2024 7:09 am So... is the saga over? Did everyone simply give up?

I mean

Brian’s been broke for eons, the song and dance is old and leads nowhere, and twitter is dying. These games were nowhere close to being finished and he was nowhere close to shipping them.

The expiration of his business license in 2022 was arguably the death date of the company. Yet you still have that Leslie person on twitter tweeting at dispatch monthly as if he’s actually gonna deliever lol so somehow people still believe in him

AFAIK though they did pull tengoku off the site in recent months, it’s now labeled sold out. …either that he finally gave up, hopes current buyers forget the game ever existed, and he pulled it, or enough gullible people bought it from an openly scammy company out of some weird hope?

We’ll only know the full story if the devs who he worked with speak about it. Which none of them will (i tried)
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