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OldSkoolShmuper wrote: Fri Sep 29, 2023 3:49 am Ugh! Was looking forward to playing Finest Hour, WTH happened?
They even did a press release on the 28th announcing the release, with USD pricing: https://www.gamespress.com/en-US/Announ ... INEST-HOUR

We've had a couple instances of release snafus that were corrected within a week. In 2022, that happened with the US Switch releases of both Empire City: 1931 and Itazura Tenshi. Both were released about a week later alongside that week's scheduled game. So, I do like to give it a week before I call it and seek out another region's version...

We've yet to see a US Switch release that shows up more than a week late though. Marvel Land (December 2022) never made it, and I'm now doubting we see Jail Break. Hopefully they get Finest Hour sorted soon. I think I'll have to grab that one from the Japan store if we don't see it in the US by next week.
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I wonder if it's some trademark bollocks like with Marvel Land, still AWOL outside Japan iirc. :sad:

As some small commiseration, I had Thursday afternoon all set, and then I spent the rest of the day waiting on various electricians. :lol:

Having given it 24hrs, again without returning just yet, I think Finest Hour needed a few more mech accoutrements to truly shine. This raw coinop intensity, plus Gigantic Army's strafe, metered shield, and vicious melee (preferably metered - both an emergency breakout, as well as a hard target crusher). With only the moderately-powerful rifle at your disposal, offense can feel one-note; extended combat isn't the game's strong suit (though tearing headlong through zako is most definitely cathartic).

On the other hand, I love the minimalist purity of what it does offer: a pairing of radar and extreme mobility to out-zone tougher enemies, and a reliance on spacing and terrain to take them down cleanly. Slugging it out on flat ground with strong mechs will leave you overheated, and you can't afford to trade away too many seconds on cooldown. Entirely better to aggressively reposition yourself, so 90%+ of their fire sails over your head, before marching on with minimal heat swiftly dissipating. Your speed grants huge scope to fight on your own terms; quicker foes will chase, but it's up to you where the battle is fought. Encountered on flat ground, or surrounded by mines? Haul ass out of there, make their day hell instead. Or find a nice ravine or shaft to vernier over as they tumble haplessly in, that works too!

Zako can (and in the interests of time, indeed should) be mowed through with calculated abandon, your targeting systems icily dispatching; the odd nick won't interrupt cooldown significantly. Mines will sink you, but that's what the radar is for. :mrgreen:

It's also undeniably amusing, on the most visceral level, to just flat-out leave slower bruisers in the dust Joseph Joestar style. :lol: I was hollering NIGURUNDAYOOO frequently in the first couple stages. :mrgreen: This is war, bitch! :shock: MERCENARY X DGAF, I'm in your camp wrecking all your shit! Not my fault your cardio sucks. :cool: In true JoJo Part 2 fashion, this factors importantly into the endgame, though it must be used with utmost discretion on your plunge into ultra-fortified hell Image

I really dig this strategic bartering of heat vs time; an articulated push/pull, perfectly suiting the grueling "running tank vs hellish battlefield" aesthetic. Like Assault, despite their radically differing formats, it seems to be a speed game at heart; I've no doubt experienced players can do some rad things, piloting SYGNUS at perpetual redline.

While it's probably better-recommended as a cool game, moreso than a formally excellent one, the chassis is solid; its minimalism concealing an intriguingly speed-based tactical intensity. That previously-spoilered endboss fiasco aside - the archetypally shortsighted credit-grabber I've forgiven in plenty of favourites - I'm happy calling this the coinop Leynos Alpha I always wanted.

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This is the second mecha-themed title I've seen with stages named after a famous Western rock band's songs; Rush for Finest Hour, Joy Division for Cloudphobia.
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i'm bummed out.

Hey guys, is Assault Suit Leynos 2 on Saturn any good?
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OldSkoolShmuper wrote: Fri Sep 29, 2023 11:50 pmHey guys, is Assault Suit Leynos 2 on Saturn any good?
Absolutely superb; in some ways it's my favourite of the trilogy. Doesn't have the masterpiece aesthetic of Valken (nothing does), though the zooming POV is supremely cool (and useful). It's truly Leynos's sequel, returning to its wild open battlefields and quasi-sim customisation, with perhaps the best controls of any mecha sidescroller. Having a button for each weapon is hard to leave behind... you can punch out one chump, shotgun blast another, and unleash an Itano Circus on their backups, while simultaneously boosting and strafing, all in the same digital heartbeat while tracking a dozen targets and their projectiles via HUD. :cool: Easy recommend for heavy machine sidescroller fans.

Dracue's Leynos remake is excellent too, very nearly the unifying masterpiece Masaya never quite managed BITD. Has Leynos 1's dangerous volatility, Leynos 2's super-refined controls and interface, and musters a bit of Valken's panache, though since it's a straight ASL1 remake, its scenario is innately less grand (ASV is so hard to match, a rare masterpiece of playable mech theatre). A more than worthy effort, definitely worth a go if you've enjoyed any of the previous games.

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I used to think Leynos 1's regenerating HP was a surprising bit of generosity in an otherwise ruthless game... now I'm headcanoning it to Finest Hour's heat gauge, makes too much sense. Image
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hamfighterx wrote: Fri Sep 29, 2023 6:00 am
OldSkoolShmuper wrote: Fri Sep 29, 2023 3:49 am Ugh! Was looking forward to playing Finest Hour, WTH happened?
They even did a press release on the 28th announcing the release, with USD pricing: https://www.gamespress.com/en-US/Announ ... INEST-HOUR

We've had a couple instances of release snafus that were corrected within a week. In 2022, that happened with the US Switch releases of both Empire City: 1931 and Itazura Tenshi. Both were released about a week later alongside that week's scheduled game. So, I do like to give it a week before I call it and seek out another region's version...

We've yet to see a US Switch release that shows up more than a week late though. Marvel Land (December 2022) never made it, and I'm now doubting we see Jail Break. Hopefully they get Finest Hour sorted soon. I think I'll have to grab that one from the Japan store if we don't see it in the US by next week.
I dunno. There have been ESRB and approval snafus that took a long time to sort out with various games. Zerodiv/City Connection's Gunbird had an issue with nudity that took a long time to sort out (was eventually censored). And now is not a bad time to buy up some JP credits with the current prices being very reasonable.
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It's likely only been delayed a week. From what I've heard, it takes about a week to correct any problem on the eshop, due to how nintendo works.
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BIL wrote: Sat Sep 30, 2023 12:08 am
OldSkoolShmuper wrote: Fri Sep 29, 2023 11:50 pmHey guys, is Assault Suit Leynos 2 on Saturn any good?
Absolutely superb; in some ways it's my favourite of the trilogy. Doesn't have the masterpiece aesthetic of Valken (nothing does), though the zooming POV is supremely cool (and useful). It's truly Leynos's sequel, returning to its wild open battlefields and quasi-sim customisation, with perhaps the best controls of any mecha sidescroller. Having a button for each weapon is hard to leave behind... you can punch out one chump, shotgun blast another, and unleash an Itano Circus on their backups, while simultaneously boosting and strafing, all in the same digital heartbeat while tracking a dozen targets and their projectiles via HUD. :cool: Easy recommend for heavy machine sidescroller fans.

Dracue's Leynos remake is excellent too, very nearly the unifying masterpiece Masaya never quite managed BITD. Has Leynos 1's dangerous volatility, Leynos 2's super-refined controls and interface, and musters a bit of Valken's panache, though since it's a straight ASL1 remake, its scenario is innately less grand (ASV is so hard to match, a rare masterpiece of playable mech theatre). A more than worthy effort, definitely worth a go if you've enjoyed any of the previous games.

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I used to think Leynos 1's regenerating HP was a surprising bit of generosity in an otherwise ruthless game... now I'm headcanoning it to Finest Hour's heat gauge, makes too much sense. Image
Hey thanks so much for posting your thoughts on Assault Suit Leynos 2. I think I'm going to snag a copy since it's not expensive and I have a Japanese Saturn. I have some magazine scans to contribute, reviews from EDGE (UK) Next Generation (U.S.) and Diehard GameFan which might be fun to read.

https://i.imgur.com/t3VPABz.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/FqGe1Rk.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/SoFbFQS.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/3UCcftb.jpg

p.s. I do have the remake on PS4, but it's way back in my backlog.
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Sima Tuna wrote: Sat Sep 30, 2023 2:13 am It's likely only been delayed a week. From what I've heard, it takes about a week to correct any problem on the eshop, due to how nintendo works.
I replied to the whole post, not just the part about Finest Hour. The games have to be approved by both ESRB and Nintendo and Sony's approval processes. I would not count Jail Break out yet.
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Neo Geo:
THE KING OF FIGHTERS 2003
MAGICIAN LORD
METAL SLUG 5

OVER TOP
POWER SPIKES II
PULSTAR
PUZZLE BOBBLE 2
SENGOKU 2
STAKES WINNER 2
WORLD HEROES

Others:
Chack'n Pop
CHAMPION WRESTLER
DARIUS

ELEVATOR ACTION
FIGHTING HAWK

FLIPULL
HALLEY'S COMET
KURIKINTON
QIX
RAIMAIS
From my research, the bolded games are the better ones and the ones worth picking up? Something I'm missing?
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Yeah, Raimais and Pulstar are essential!

(I'd say Qix too but that may be a harder sell.) :P
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Definitely Pulstar! Absolutely first-rate R-Type homage.

Very fond of Raimais, too, and I'm not normally super into dot-eaters. It's a lot more aggressive-feeling than the norm, effectively an STG crossover complete with the occasional boss battle.

Qix is indeed not an easy sell, unless you're into Qix-esques, then it's the easiest ever. :mrgreen: I love that it's on here in such fine form. Chack n' Pop isn't quite as quintessentially subgenre-defining, but along similar lines, I was glad to see it join later Taito single-screeners Fairyland Story and Bubble Bobble (obligatory "WTF no Rainbow Islands?!" pout).
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I saw the recent ACA YouTube posts for Finest Hour and, though I haven’t played it, I agree with BIL. It looks like a long lost Leynos alpha. It’s what encouraged me to visit this thread. I’m on a Leynos kick with the announcements of the upcoming City Connection Leynos 2 port and The Vice Scamble.
OldSkoolShmuper wrote: Fri Sep 29, 2023 11:50 pm i'm bummed out.

Hey guys, is Assault Suit Leynos 2 on Saturn any good?
Yes, buy it. There’s nothing more I could add to BIL’s excellent description. It’s an undervalued side-scrolling mecha masterpiece.
OldSkoolShmuper wrote: Sat Sep 30, 2023 3:57 am
I have some magazine scans to contribute, reviews from EDGE (UK) Next Generation (U.S.) and Diehard GameFan which might be fun to read.

https://i.imgur.com/t3VPABz.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/FqGe1Rk.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/SoFbFQS.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/3UCcftb.jpg

p.s. I do have the remake on PS4, but it's way back in my backlog.
Thank you for sharing these! They are gold! It’s always fascinating to read takes on mecha games pre western Gundam breakout.

Do play Leynos PS4. Graphically it’s rough around the edges, but it’s a fine representation of the genre and a nice send off for the series and Dracue. It is also a bit under appreciated in my eyes.
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Qix is one of those games where I'm not really going to play it in 2023, but it's waaay better than a lot of its contemporaries. Its a great game considering it was made in 1981.
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Klatrymadon wrote: Sat Sep 30, 2023 9:25 am Yeah, Raimais and Pulstar are essential!

(I'd say Qix too but that may be a harder sell.) :P
Was thinking of getting Pulstar on PC, but have to do some research on that port. Raimas added to the list!
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The Windows ACA port? I have it, and as far as I can tell it's identical to the PS4 and Switch versions. It performs beautifully for me with vsync off, on a setup that usually suffers terribly from screen tearing, heh. The only potentially disappointing thing is that the leaderboards are sparsely populated*, and the top few scores are obviously cheated ones. There's a lot more competition to be had on the consoles, if you're after that.

*This is no surprise - hardly anyone is even aware the ACA Neo Geo line exists on PC. There's never been an arse-scratch of effort put into promoting them, and they don't reliably show up in Microsoft store or Xbox app searches.
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Klatrymadon wrote: Sun Oct 01, 2023 6:33 am The Windows ACA port? I have it, and as far as I can tell it's identical to the PS4 and Switch versions. It performs beautifully for me with vsync off, on a setup that usually suffers terribly from screen tearing, heh. The only potentially disappointing thing is that the leaderboards are sparsely populated*, and the top few scores are obviously cheated ones. There's a lot more competition to be had on the consoles, if you're after that.

*This is no surprise - hardly anyone is even aware the ACA Neo Geo line exists on PC. There's never been an arse-scratch of effort put into promoting them, and they don't reliably show up in Microsoft store or Xbox app searches.
ACA NeoGeo is not available in Korea for whatever reason (on Microsoft Windows nor on the Korean PSN too nor the Android Play Store). I was talking about the PC Ports on Steam & GOG https://www.gog.com/en/game/pulstar, though some have complained about the game speed. I'll probably get the Hamster port as it's quality is not in doubt.
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Everyone should own Raimais, it's brilliant.
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Taking a look at Jail Break now. My first thought was, wow the voice work must be the same person who did Salamander. Oh they're both 1986 titles, that explains it.
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To Far Away Times wrote: Sat Sep 30, 2023 6:13 pm Qix is one of those games where I'm not really going to play it in 2023, but it's waaay better than a lot of its contemporaries. Its a great game considering it was made in 1981.
Not to mention that Qix was developed in-house by Taito of America (American arcade subsidy of parent company Taito of Japan) for arcades stateside back in 1981. How cool is that?

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BIL wrote: Sat Sep 30, 2023 1:58 pm Very fond of Raimais, too, and I'm not normally super into dot-eaters. It's a lot more aggressive-feeling than the norm, effectively an STG crossover complete with the occasional boss battle.
Also reminds me a bit of Arkanoid with similar aesthetics.
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So Hamster put up Jail Break and Finest Hour vids on their YT, and for Jail Break it features links to the Canadian PSN and the UK eShop to buy that game... And both games are still not on the US stores yet? Why? It seems to make no sense and there's nothing blatantly obvious like Marvel Land's issue. Why would *just* the US be geoblocked here. They have ESRB ratings for crying out loud! Jail Break's really the main one I'm hoping to nab, and I'm generally a bit nervous about future ACA games skipping over the US in the future. Don't mind importing if I have to like marvel land, but I'd especially hate to import and then it finally shows up the next week.

Also, no priorly announced game for tomorrow, which gives me some hope that it's a break from the Taito/Namco duo we've been stuck with for months, and I'm really praying for Ganbare Ginkun to show up after like, 2+ years of being announced, but with how they bought Athena lately and are still putting out stuff from Allumer, I'm pretty confident it'll sadly be stank from either of those. Allumer peaked with Mad Shark (mainly because Moss made that) and Athena I don't see doing anything of interest until console archives starts up, when they could really shine.

I'd really love a Video System surprise like Sonic Wings 1. That I've been waiting for quite a long while now. It's also been a very long time since Jaleco or Irem did anything, and I'd really go for some Mr. Heli...
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Wanted a thing called Tuna Sasimi? Darius II is this week's release!
https://www.famitsu.com/news/202310/04319432.html

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I have Darius II in M2's Darius Cozmic Arcade but if this is the three-screen version as was suggested some time ago I will get it.

The Famitsu article doesn't specify the aspect ratio, and the image shown is 1280 x 720, or 16:9 so I don't know what is going on there.
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fuck

Well i have milestones 2 and cosmic so unless it includes all the sagaia variants i guess its another skip for me. I would love caravan mode us sagaia though and would buy if that’s available
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I'd say the Famitsu snapshots at the bottom clearly belong to the triple monitor version.
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That's almost certainly the triple screen version, and that makes it worth getting even if you have Cozmic Collection.
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Does it suck any less than the original?
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Marc wrote: Wed Oct 04, 2023 2:25 pm Does it suck any less than the original?
It's 3 screens wide instead of 2 & some of the bosses act a little differently to account for the extra area of playfield

But it's 99% the same game
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Bassa-Bassa wrote: Wed Oct 04, 2023 12:56 pm I'd say the Famitsu snapshots at the bottom clearly belong to the triple monitor version.
Interesting. The only screenshot showing up for me on that Famitsu page is the one at the top, which is probably cropped, but is 16:9.
Marc wrote: Wed Oct 04, 2023 2:25 pm Does it suck any less than the original?
Whether by original you mean the first Darius game or the two-screen version of Darius II, I personally think both are awesome. Darius II is a less difficult game than Darius though, for whatever that is worth. Given the tone of the question though, I assume this is just trolling anyway.
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Why would you assume trolling? I think the first Darius sucks, and gets away with a ton of shit that a Euro shooter would be lambasted for. If I was trolling, I'd do it in the 'love' thread.
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