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BulletMagnet wrote: Tue Sep 12, 2023 10:46 pm So McCarthy has, predictably, kowtowed to the Freedom Caucus and opened a nonsensical "why didn't we get one too?!" impeachment inquiry against Biden, and incredibly quickly found out what happens when you attempt to pussyfoot around authoritarians instead of acting like a human being and telling them in no uncertain terms to fuck off.

I hate to sound like a broken record, but seriously, every time I think the "mainstream" right - whatever the hell that even means anymore - couldn't possibly debase itself any further it always finds a way to fail to meet even my own rock-bottom expectations.
He literally can't tell them to fuck off. The vote to confirm him as speaker only passed on the 15th attempt, after he gave the Brawndo delegation veto power over his existence. There just weren't enough votes to install a speaker without them, and the other choice was giving one of them the job.

Most of the republicans in the House know the impeachment is idiotic - if nothing else because a bunch of them were elected in districts that Biden won. And it can't possibly pass the democrat-held senate, but republican senators in the same situation will be forced to choose between either party optics or their electorate. McCarthy's pushed back this long because their polling tells them it's likely going to cost them congress for literally negative political gain.

But the shriekers don't care, because these Alex Jones-tier stunts let them fundraise nationally by building media profiles as freedumb fighters. To the point that they've been catfighting each other the whole way over who gets the golden pom-poms as head cheerleader:

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Has an apocalyptic ring to it, doesn't it?
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Sengoku Strider wrote: Wed Sep 13, 2023 4:47 pmMcCarthy's pushed back this long because their polling tells them it's likely going to cost them congress for literally negative political gain.
I frankly take exception to the suggestion that there's been any true "pushback" at all; with very, very few exceptions the closest anyone has seen coming even out of the "moderates" is some variation on "well, y'know, we shouldn't rush this, we don't have all of our ducks in a row to decisively take down the Biden Crime Family just yet". It's like saying there's been a groundswell of opposition to Trump's Big Lie, when the near-universal refrain has been "hey now, those concerns are completely legit, there so many unanswered questions about the election". If that's "pushback", literally anything outside of cocksucking on camera could be classified as such.

It's also worth repeating, of course, that to whatever extent McCarthy and his fellow utterly worthless "gatekeepers" can't say no to the out-and-proud wingnuts, it's because they've been deliberately mollycoddling them for decades now, in order to make sure the absolute dregs of the voter base show up for them and keep the plutocracy going strong; now they're blubbering (off the record, of course :roll:) about how much they really, really wanted to vote to impeach Trump or certify the 2020 election but were in fear for their and their families' safety if they did. Would have been nice if you thought of this back when it might have mattered and all of us, including those who, unlike you, did openly resist your party's despicable authoritarian lurch, weren't forced to suffer the consequences.

Sorry - zero sympathy for any of these pussies. Complain however they might, every last one of them is, one way or another, going to come out of this just fine; those of us on tap to receive the business end of their ratfuckery are another story, and for all of their warm, salty tears along the way neither they nor their voters have once given a shit about the country or the world, and still don't.
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BulletMagnet wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 9:27 amIt's also worth repeating, of course, that to whatever extent McCarthy and his fellow utterly worthless "gatekeepers" can't say no to the out-and-proud wingnuts, it's because they've been deliberately mollycoddling them for decades now, in order to make sure the absolute dregs of the voter base show up for them and keep the plutocracy going strong; now they're blubbering (off the record, of course :roll:) about how much they really, really wanted to vote to impeach Trump or certify the 2020 election but were in fear for their and their families' safety if they did.
Well yeah. It's just that they've been way past the "we can do anything about this" phase for years, and are now well into the "how do I distract the ones who seem most likely to literally eat me?" phase.

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Sengoku Strider wrote: Wed Sep 13, 2023 4:47 pmTrump
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Has an apocalyptic ring to it, doesn't it?
President Taylor Greene 2028.

As much as I've assumed that was going to be so in the past, Texas is a big wildcard. They're going to have to push the rigging hard or just stop pretending they count any of those things, eventually.

The entire thing's still a pointless TV show.


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BryanM wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 6:42 pmPresident Taylor Greene 2028.
There's an even more inspirational candidate out there waiting to fulfil his destiny as IRL President Camacho.

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You know, I'd completely forgotten about that fella. Brain barely has enough room to remember the small gaggle of closers that it does. Had to check his margin: ~2.8%. It was close fam.

Idiocracy makes me tingle in my heart. All of these corpos signing off their license, and then are absolutely horrified when the movie has people going into a Starbucks for a latte and a handjob. Fox tanked the movie so hard. Aired in like two theaters for one night's showing. No marketing.

It's just delightful that a little bit of honesty and truth manages to peep through their blanket of mud.

I've bitched about twitter vampires before, but it's never enough: Those bastards are gross fam. It's effectively a rule that you're not supposed to call them out on their lies in their social circles: everyone is hustling for money so they don't want the cons being pointed out. Bricks in glass houses. "Decorum".

Yann LeCun tweetered that Facebook lighting $20+ billion on a really bad version of VRChat was an "investment" and not a grotesque loss to not only Facebook, but to the collective whole of humanity itself. Some men are just asking to be bullied.

Was making it trivial to allow people to share their thoughts while on the toilet really such a great idea? Imagine where Roseanne would be right now in that alternate reality, where the whirling woodchipper wasn't right there in her face.
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Why is Taylor Swift a quotable person?
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The current state of radio and music is yet another example of top-down grooming by capital to control society.

Pop and hip-hop and pop that kinda sounds like hip-hop. And no more bands; it's all just solo singers who get credit for anything. You'll never become a pop superstar idol by mastering the banjo.

On the face of it, it might simply look like it's less paychecks to cut. They only have to pay one person any real money, instead of five. That can be a part of it of course.

But rock music is often about raging against authority. Jazz is often about admitting everything isn't always sunshine and rainbows. Disco and funk can tend to have a message of simple ascetic contentment and joy with what you have and what you are. These things.... they're obviously not messages capitalists want to amplify.

Katy Perry singing about how it's hard being pretty, that's the ticket. This kind of thing used to be a joke. (You can also revisit the Onion's take on this if you want. The classics.) And like with most jokes, it was all too true.

Katy having some kind of crisis of the soul as she wished she had something worth saying. That there was any meaning to her elevation.... I feel for the girl, though she lacks the tools to see through the haze; the root causes of her guilt and malaise. She's doing a little better than most in her position, at being human.

Anyway, the core goal is to cultivate the tendencies of shallow greed in the culture. Should they encourage kids to make a band with their friends? Make music together for fun? Nah, they should aspire to become a lottery ticket winner in some televised karaoke contest. That's who their heroes should be. Libertarian individualism, crabs in a bucket, everyone's an island.

Fifteen Million Merits for everyone.

Flashback quote of the month wrote:Here is a short story that will explain what is going on.

Arthur Koestler, journalist and author, a highly intelligent man, was involved in the Spanish civil war. One night, while fleeing from the fascists, he found refuge in a farm house. It was raining outside, there was a fire burning in the hearth and food... and he KNEW that if he stayed and slept, the fascists would catch him in the morning. Guess what? His creature comforts of the moment did override the future considerations of safety. The fascists got him.

We are only human. A kind of chimp with slightly enlarged frontal cortex. Our 'trick' is information sharing. The culture that we live in is thousands of times more intelligent than we are as individual. Our collective intelligence is a horse we are riding, but can't steer, it's like an ant trying to steer an elephant. Our collective culture is a system that we created, that contains us, but that is independent from our wishes and ideas about it.

We are ONLY human. It's not all that much.

So, immediate climate action? While we are falling off a cliff, we might make swimming motions upwards. Best we can do.
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Pierce nooooooo

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BryanM wrote: Tue Sep 26, 2023 3:57 pmPop and hip-hop and pop that kinda sounds like hip-hop. And no more bands; it's all just solo singers who get credit for anything. You'll never become a pop superstar idol by mastering the banjo.
I dunno, that part's not new, the music business has been appropriating and repackaging black music for comfortable consumption since the reconstruction era. Pop music in particular has been stuck on urban black music since they hit it big white washing New Edition into New Kids on the Block. Then sold the Backstreet Boys with xeroxes of Dr. Dre's beats in Michael Jackson's Thriller video.

I don't think it's a controversial take to say it was social media which fuelled the rise of the individual ego to the centre of the collective culture. I mean, Paris Hilton was the prototype for this. She was famous for nothing in particular other than an ability to attract attention, and had the money and PR people to use magazine covers as her own personal Instagram in the pre-social media era. Rappers were uniquely positioned to take advantage of the new ecosystem; they were already all about flashy conspicuous consumption, attention-getting antics and reality show-ready personal drama fuelled by a culture of over the top tempers. The Kardashians cynically leveraged this to become the more successful Hilton spinoff once the technology was there.

I don't see this whole phenomenon as top down, but rather bottom-up. Social media engagement can be astroturfed and massaged, but at the end of the day it's far more accessible and democratic than any media market before it; there's no way the establishment sat around and came up with mumble rap as the next big thing everyone would want, they just hopped on the train when they saw the numbers and suddenly "Hey kids here's Lil' Yachty, enjoy his one weird trick for the next 3-6 weeks." I think the current state of things can be understood through two key psychological factors:

1. People inherently find individuals more interesting than groups.
2. People are very interested in those at the bottom rising to the top, and in those at the top falling from grace.

These both tie into rehearsal theory - the notion that people consume media to gain information about how to handle important life scenarios. I think it suddenly becomes clear why "trashy individual everyman/woman gets lots of money and sex through nothing more than their innate specialness and attitude, rises to top offending establishment the whole way" became the ur-story that every artist sells. Followed by "Famous rich person is dumb and not better than you, said inappropriate thing and thrown in cultural dumpster" as the fall-from-grace corollary to complete the cycle.
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I do think there's some chicken and egg there. They have 100% discretion on what to push and what to tank. And the current circumstances of civilization isn't exactly determined by the bottom 90%.

One of the seemingly paradoxical things is that as dumb as all the corporate media is getting, younger people save a higher percentage of their income than previous generations. This overlaps with movies: "what kind of dumbass would spend money to be chained to a chair and stare at flashing lights and noise for a couple hours in this day and age?"

And if you internalize that question, it does explain a lot about what the corporate media finds easiest to produce and sell. There's more pressure than ever for ~50% of the population that are literate to have little interest in these products. No money, no time, or better things to do with either.

I think Survivor was really the start of this epoch. Once they applied that to karaoke singing competitions, it was over. It's not about hobbies or having a nice time, everything has to be measured in success or failure. Everything has to have a number on it.

But honestly it's Barbie World that's finally broken me. The original song, like Todd in the Shadows mentions, is actually quite a bit like a classical ballroom dance song. Whatever they've been passing around as an "updated" version... it can charitably be called music, I think. My opinion is it's more like a bukkake of noise.

Remember that I'm the guy who thinks Eurobeat and ____wave aesthetics are perfectly fine genres.

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I'm not even particularly opposed to them consolidating everything into one giant blob ("pop" isn't a genre, after all. It's just whatever is new that gets to be played on the radio by the three corporations that control 100% of the market). Is "alternative rock" still a thing? So that's ~four different kinds of music for four different kinds of people?

.... why does this feel like a political thing now. Remember the Dixie Chicks being unpersoned for saying the Iraq War was bad?

(And now I'm remembering that Alabama is the only country band that ever got airtime on the radio in the 90's. Really mellow music though.)
to complete the cycle
That is a neat and tidy little ouroboros there.

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Man, this judge just ethered Trump's lawyers in the fraud case ruling revoking his business like he was Dispatch Games:
“A discrepancy of this order of magnitude, by a real estate developer sizing up his own living space of decades, can only be considered fraud”

“Exacerbating defendants’ obstreperous conduct is their continued reliance on bogus arguments, in papers and oral argument,” Engoron wrote. “In defendants’ world: rent regulated apartments are worth the same as unregulated apartments; restricted land is worth the same as unrestricted land; restrictions can evaporate into thin air; a disclaimer by one party casting responsibility on another party exonerates the other party’s lies …”

“That is a fantasy world, not the real world.”
I want this judge to follow Trump everywhere repeating that last sentence after everything he says, followed by the Law & Order gavel bang SFX. Dude overstated his worth by 3 point fucking six billion dollars. His lawyers sagely tried to use the "this is just what happens in complicated business that is complicated it's over your head don't worry about it" defence, followed by "whoops, didn't notice literally everything we ever filed was fraudulent, super busy," capped off with the sovereign citizen-worthy "according to British common law from 1608 that doesn't apply here is it really a crime King James I may pursue if nobody's son was bedaggered or entruncheoned?" Turns out it can be!

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The use of the word "obstreperous" is what is really sizzlin' there. Man used a word even I've never seen before. Brutally savage.
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The whole thing is just the judge riddling Trump's Lionel Hutz-tier lawyers with bullet holes.

Like, he opens with calling them sophists trapped in the time loop from Groundhog Day:
Defendants arguments that OAG has neither capacity nor standing to sue under Executive Law 63( 12) , and that the disclaimers of non-party accountants Mazars insulate defendants, invoke the time-loop in the film Groundhog Day. " This Court emphatically rejected these arguments in its preliminary injunction decision and in its dismissal decision, and the First Department affirmed both. Defendants contention that a different procedural posture mandates a reconsideration , or a fortiori, a reversal, is pure sophistry
It goes through page after page of the judge dismantling them for totally misinterpreting (or misrepresenting) a bunch of cases, and literally not knowing what counted as precedent in the court they were in. Like when they invoked a "consumer" ruling that did not have the word consumer in it:
Defendants glaringly misrepresent the requirements of an Executive Law 63( 12) cause of action. Citing to People v Northern Leasing Sys. Inc., 70 Misc 3d 256, 267 (Sup , NY County 2021), defendants assert that OAG must show the practice is one likely to mislead a reasonable consumer acting reasonably under the circumstances . NYSCEF Doc. No. 835 at 42. However, the word consumer does not appear anywhere in the referenced decision, and defendants characterization of its holding is inaccurate.
Or when Honest Don put in a disclaimer that his accountants hadn't reviewed the numbers, so he therefore could not have committed fraud...for some reason. The judge points out that his lawyers have basically just proven he's guilty:
Defendants, yet again , argue that OAG's complaint must be dismissed because the contain language, provided by non-party accountants Mazars, that indicate that they have not audited or reviewed the accompanying financial statements and therefore cannot express an opinion as to whether the financial statements comply with Generally Accepted Accounting Principles ( GAAP ) However , as this Court already ruled , these non-party disclaimers do not insulate defendants from liability , as they plainly state that Donald J. Trump is responsible for the preparation and fair presentation ofthe financial statement in accordance with accounting principles generally accepted in the United States of America and for designing , implementing, and maintaining internal control relevant to the preparation and fair presentation of the financial statement.

In sum, the Mazars disclaimers put the onus for accuracy squarely on defendants shoulders.
Trump has been sued so much that the judge had to point out that the precedent against one of their arguments was literally a previous Trump case from 2010:
Also fatally flawed is defendants reliance on People v Frink Am. Inc., 2 AD3d 1379, 1380 (4th Dept 2003), as it relies on the outdated proposition that Executive Law 63( 12) does not create any new causes of action and thus , the remedy of disgorgement is unavailable . NYSCEF Doc. No.835at73-74 However, in Trump Entrepreneur Initiative, in which at least three of the instant defendants were parties, the First Department unambiguously declared that the Attorney General is, in fact, authorized to bring a cause of action for fraud under Executive Law 63 (12)
Which was almost as bad as when the judge had to cite rulings from the case they're currently in:
In flagrant disregard of prior orders of this Court and the First Department , defendants repeat the untenable notion that disgorgement is unavailable as a matter of law in Executive Law 63(12)actions. NYSCEFDoc.No.835at70. This is patently false, as defendants are, or certainly should be, aware that the Appellate Division, First Department made it clear in this very case that we have already held that the failure to allege losses does not require dismissal of a claim for disgorgement under Executive Law 63( 12). Trump , 217 AD3d at 610.
Like, it just goes on and on and on. More highlights from various other terrible arguments they made:

In fact, had defendants not cut off the beginning of the sentence they cited, it would be evident on its face that such case is legally irrelevant

Defendants also incorrectly rely on Abrahami v UPC Const. Co., 224 AD2d 231, 233 ( 1st Dept 1996), for the proposition that "merely providing copies of purportedly false financial
statements is insufficient."


However, Fletcher is not an Executive Law 63(12) action, it was brought as a corporate tort; accordingly, is not relevant here.

However, defendants neglect to mention that Direct Revenue was superseded , and essentially overruled, in 2016 by the New York Court of Appeals in People v Greenberg, which unequivocally held that disgorgement is an available remedy under the Martin Act and the Executive Law."

Defendants incorrectly posit that, under People v Ernst & Young LLP, 114 AD3d 569 ( 1st Dept 2014), disgorgement is available under the Martin Act but not under Executive Law 63( 12) . NYSCEF Doc. No. 836 at 73. This is simply untrue.

...and I'm only at page 8 of 35 here. So I'll leave off with (part of) this lengthy section of him calling the lawyers morons:
Defendants conduct in reiterating these frivolous arguments is egregious . We are way beyond the point of sophisticated counsel should have known better ; we are at the point of intentional and blatant disregard of controlling authority and law of the case. This Court emphatically rejected these arguments, as did the First Department. Defendants repetition of them here is indefensible.
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Sengoku Strider wrote: Wed Sep 27, 2023 1:59 pmI want this judge to follow Trump everywhere repeating that last sentence after everything he says
The ones who really need this treatment are the people voting for him or any politician who supports him, or considering doing so. Though at this point I'm not convinced any of them give any more of a shit than Trump himself does.
His lawyers sagely tried to use the "this is just what happens in complicated business that is complicated it's over your head don't worry about it" defence
I'll never understand how anybody ever took this well-worn plutocrat excuse seriously, since it directly contradicts their eternal axiom that they're only as obscenely rich as they are because they're just that much smarter and on top of things than the masses of worthless morons who should be obediently grateful for whatever meager table scraps they get, and punished absolutely mercilessly whenever they screw up on top of that.

EDIT: Off to the side, as yet another question to the "I can never support the left, because they treat me like an idiot and don't respect me" crowd, why the fuck aren't you demanding David Brooks's head on a platter?
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Kurzgesagt has a video on Boltzmann brains that clarified some things about it I didn't understand yet. Like "how would a brain be able to survive in a void?" The happy answer is it can't. It dissolves very quickly, and after enough eternities pass the next brain and next snapshot in your life are assembled, and so on. (As to the probability of it being true, I'd have to quote Mickey Mouse on this one: "Hypocrite that you are, to trust the chemicals in your brain to tell you they are chemicals.")

More pertinent to our current situation, Jacob's essay on living in the pre-apocalypse has some interesting vibes. I mean, it's not going to be as exciting as it is in fiction, swimming motions in the air while falling off a cliff and all that, but.

While on that topic, remember that guy who was visiting the Grand Canyon with his family, and he wanted to goof his daughter and pretended to fall into the Grand Canyon, except then he slipped and really did roll into the Grand Canyon? And his daughter chose to ignore his silly dad antics, walked on by, knowing it was just another one of his dumb pranks? All the way to the parking lot at the end of the day with a "where's dad?"

I'm sad he's gone, because he can't get his world's greatest prank trophy. The sad paradox of reality. I hope he's doing okay in an alternate universe.

But my point is you'd never see my ass anywhere near a giant hole in the ground. What reward is there even in doing that? "Oh wow. It looks exactly like it does in the photographs. Amazing." While on the downside you're standing way too close to instant death. Holes should have drops in increments no larger than 15 feet, thanks.
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BulletMagnet wrote: Thu Sep 28, 2023 12:12 amThe ones who really need this treatment are the people voting for him or any politician who supports him, or considering doing so. Though at this point I'm not convinced any of them give any more of a shit than Trump himself does.
Dude I don't think it's safe to assign this poor man to spending all day following Randy Quaid around.

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I'll never understand how anybody ever took this well-worn plutocrat excuse seriously
Because they want to. If he were anything but a republican, they'd be uncovering whistleblower testimony from heroic Gulf War veteran Navy Seal bald eagles about his secret mega-Jewish blood tithes to Pontius Pilate. Instead, they're going to pretend that a professional real estate developer saying the 10 000 sq ft condo he's lived in for literal decades is 30 000 sq ft (oops!), or over-valuing his Florida motel by twenty-three hundred freaking percent based on prospective future development the land is literally legally barred from having is just some smart business thing.
BryanM wrote: Thu Sep 28, 2023 4:54 amBoltzmann brains
HOW HAVE I NEVER HEARD OF THIS CONCEPT. I literally studied cogsci as side theory, but the go-to gedanken experiments were arguing about embodiment vs brains in vats and homunculi.
Like "how would a brain be able to survive in a void?" The happy answer is it can't. It dissolves very quickly, and after enough eternities pass the next brain and next snapshot in your life are assembled, and so on. (As to the probability of it being true, I'd have to quote Mickey Mouse on this one: "Hypocrite that you are, to trust the chemicals in your brain to tell you they are chemicals.")
Does the concept stipulate a biological mammalian human brain in a literal Newtonian vacuum? Because assigning our own ideocosmic physical properties to an unknowable exterior seems like something that'd contradict the construct.
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Sengoku Strider wrote: Thu Sep 28, 2023 5:55 pmDoes the concept stipulate a biological mammalian human brain in a literal Newtonian vacuum? Because assigning our own ideocosmic physical properties to an unknowable exterior seems like something that'd contradict the construct.
Yeah, that's the fundamental problem with using our perceived reality as a basis for assuming anything about true base reality. Hydrogen and all that stuff really could be just a bunch of made-up Harry Potter nonsense. The Boltzmann brains could be the rough equivalent of two sticks bumping into each other and more common than dirt. We can't possibly know. A brain made out of meat is as good a stand-in descriptor as any, it isn't necessarily literal (nor necessarily a metaphor).

Mickey Mouse knows his stuff.

One of those recent things that really sticks to me is this little story:

A guy was throwing together an AI waifu girlfriend, as that is a thing you can do now in 2023. As he was plugging in the speech to text and the text to speech modules, he was reflecting on the fact that sound, all the little nonword things we convey to each other in our speech, wasn't being taken into consideration as input or output in the system he'd assembled: "Just like how I could never truly be with her, she could never truly be with me."

An LLM is a mind that only exists in a world of tokens, and it wasn't being fed any tokens describing tone of voice.

The disturbing part is how we all exist in our own crude simulations of reality. I've been reflecting on this a lot more these days, especially when making my brain try to make stuff.

With art, I always mention how it's impossible to clearly see the entire image you want to make perfectly from the start. How many triangles can you rotate in your brain? It's easier to lay down a crude blob, and begin to whittle it down, to working on fine details one thingy at a time.

Or with writing. One might think it'd be difficult to amuse or surprise yourself with stuff that comes out of your own head - it sounds like tickling yourself, just impossible. But, it happens to me all the time. I can prep a two-minute long forum post, ez pz. My brain can not accurately predict everything that will happen or be said in a twenty minute long chapter of a novel.


Edit: I did a post-post google search and was a little amused by the "you can't" responses in this Quora thread last year, aging like milk as they have. Props to the bio-engineering guy; he's setting his sights high and I find that quite based.
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Every skilled person knows that the first thing you must do to work your best effort is turn your brain off. Even with writing, what flows freely from your mind is likely to surprise you. You don't know what's in there until you start opening the tap.

We place undue importance on our brains because we think they represent that fundamental "us." They do not. The brain is an element of a complex system. We are not our brains, but rather our whole body. The body learns just as the brain does. Even actions which we think of as purely cerebral are aided by "shutting off" that overly-Id part of our brains and just flowing.
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Sima Tuna wrote: Fri Sep 29, 2023 1:53 amThe body learns just as the brain does.
That's just our motor cortex. It's largely blind to the central control node, subservient yet highly independent module that it is. Telling it to do something is more like "Execute macro ________" than plotting out every single motion.

The neurons there like to be used as much as any others though. Everyone should move around a little every day to keep them happy.

The nature of a brain as a gestalt whole made of interconnected narrow intelligences is a little creepy, and a little cool.
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The memeing in the latest sham inquiry to impeachment circus is mildly amusing. "Jared Kushner, who actually worked in the White House, has received billions in Saudi cash. Where's the outrage there, bro?" "Do any of you three star witnesses have any first hand accounts of Biden committing a crime?" "No." "No." "No." The "raise your hand if you believe" moment was also pretty cold. None of the republicans believe that if their guy is guilty of a crime, he should be punished. The law only applies to their out-group. Shocking revelation.

In 2013 I guess Senator Armstrong looked like an exaggeration or a parody. And as usual, reality has drifted to the point that the parody is a calm, reasonable sane person by current standards.
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The "your very first witness stated that nothing uncovered to this point actually warrants this proceeding", "the text message you submitted as evidence was quite literally doctored", "we offered our own exculpatory evidence but you refused to admit it with no explanation" and "you, again without explanation, refused to subpoena Rudy Fucking Giuliani, who literally started this whole thing, to testify" moments were also pretty goddamn on-the-nose.

Way past time to smell the coffee, "swing" voters: play authoritarian clown games, win authoritarian clown prizes.
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Was looking at some Davos videos on youtube, the place where they spend an hour patting themselves on the back for admitting that there's a temperature problem that they caused. (But there's nothing to be done to slow it even a little of course. Until they have to do the Matrix sky thing.)

I just thought it was amusing that they "hissed" at Trump instead of boo'ing him or shouting out mean things like normal human beings would. (Are they cats? I think they sound more like snakes. Do they not.... no I suppose they don't get the irony...)

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After congressional republicans embarrassed themselves with the impeachment farce, then topping off the weekend with half of them fighting against the other half to cause a pointless government shutdown they didn't get, it looks like knives are out for noted American enjo kousai enthusiast Matt Gaetz:
Gaetz is under investigation by the House Ethics Committee over allegations of sexual misconduct, illicit drug use and corruption. He has denied wrongdoing.

Fox News reported Sunday that members of the House Republican conference are preparing a motion to expel Gaetz if the ethics committee’s report does not clear him of wrongdoing. It would take a two-thirds vote in the House to expel him.

Gaetz for his part defended himself by pretending this makes him John Wick for some reason.

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Yep, it seems that despite siding with him on everything, Marjorie Taylor Greene and Boebert being dumb people without morals has ensured their safety for now.
Sima Tuna wrote: Fri Sep 29, 2023 1:53 am Every skilled person knows that the first thing you must do to work your best effort is turn your brain off. Even with writing, what flows freely from your mind is likely to surprise you. You don't know what's in there until you start opening the tap.

We place undue importance on our brains because we think they represent that fundamental "us." They do not. The brain is an element of a complex system. We are not our brains, but rather our whole body. The body learns just as the brain does. Even actions which we think of as purely cerebral are aided by "shutting off" that overly-Id part of our brains and just flowing.
I do understand what you're saying here. I think it just needs a few terminological tweaks.

'Brain' refers to the organ, which handles a multitude of things from memory to assembling visual input into image to regulating your metabolism. You can't live for a microsecond without it, so it's never turned off. Even sleep is a very active brain process.

'Cognition' is thinking or knowing - experiential and directed, as well as passive and unconscious. Cognition can be seen as divided across two sets of processes.

'Type 1' processes are described as automatic, rapid, effortless, unconscious, and associative in nature, and are associated with long-term memory.

'Type 2' processes are controlled, analytic, slow, conscious, and effortful, and are related to working-memory.

So I think what you're saying is that someone who has gained a high level of skill at a task, and who has performed it enough times for it to be embedded in long term memory, will operate best by disengaging from type 2, and letting type 1 processes take the wheel. You mentioned flow, that's effectively what a flow state is. The basketball player who's in the zone, making plays without hesitation, taking smooth jumpers without the slightest finger tremor caused by errant thoughts. The artist who is taken over by spontaneous creative impulse, generating a work they could never assemble consciously and deliberately.
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The very stable 8D chess master doxxed the court clerk on his social network. While he was sitting in court. Unsurprisingly, gag order immanent (edit: gag order's been issued).
On Tuesday, he extended his attacks to [judge] Engroron's clerk Allison Greenfield in a now-deleted Truth Social post while in the courtroom with her. He posted a photograph taken of Greenfield with Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer, a New York Democrat, calling for the case to be dismissed over the picture.

"Schumer's girlfriend, Alison R. Greenfield, is running this case against me. How disgraceful! This case should be dismissed immediately!!" he wrote. Despite his claim, there is no evidence of a relationship between Schumer and Greenfield beyond taking a photo together at one point.
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For those in burgerland®, you'll understand this one today.
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But, wait.. Don't forget that ethics probe. :lol: Now, let's get rid of Gaetz for what he did to McCarthy! :lol:
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Amusingly these few guys might actually get what they want. When the choice is between voting for one of them, voting for a democrat, and just not having a speaker until the next election, which will the republicans choose? Of course they won't do number 2. It's win/win for the purity fash. Giving anything less than all the fash is complete betrayal. Everyone who doesn't want to turn on the ovens is "woke".

This is kinda what term limits are. Revolving door of the same puppets. Boehner really was a genius for getting out of there and passing off the baton to the next dumb bastard who wanted the worst job in all of politics.

Looking at the history of the seat, it kind of makes sense now why boomers think democrats have any power. They absolutely dominated the house, almost total utter dominion, from the new deal onward.

Until the Clintons trundled along to fix that problem, of course.
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Too many poor people with too much money. Clinton had to do something.
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BryanM wrote: Wed Oct 04, 2023 7:24 am Amusingly these few guys might actually get what they want. When the choice is between voting for one of them, voting for a democrat, and just not having a speaker until the next election, which will the republicans choose? Of course they won't do number 2. It's win/win for the purity fash. Giving anything less than all the fash is complete betrayal. Everyone who doesn't want to turn on the ovens is "woke".
Step 1: Make Trump Speaker, and thus third in line for the presidency.

Step 2: Put forth articles of impeachment, send to democrat held senate.

Step 3: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?:

Step 4: President Trump again.

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The very idea of Trump as speaker for anyone other than Trump is hilarious to me. You know he'd use the podium to sperge about completely unrelated bullshit.
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Re: Prelude to the Apocalypse

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Naturally, the GOP's own conference rules actually disqualify Trump from eligibility for the Speaker position, but of course we can ask the most recent couple of Supreme Court justices how much the American right gives a shit about any of that, not only when there's anything remotely resembling a "win" (or, failing that, an "own") to be had but when their only actual end goal is to endlessly bitch.
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