SHMUPS forum offline during past weekend

D · Post by D » Mon Jun 19, 2006 11:17 am

It was horrible.

Great service to receive an email about it.

It also said that using different proxies might help geting back on the forum. I'm now at my work and it works.
I don't know what I'd do without you guys.

Am I the only who suffered?

Post by **system11** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 11:50 am

More or less everyone in the UK could get to it, some parts of Europe and a few in the states. It was a network problem at a provider, out of our hands.

NTSC-J · Post by **NTSC-J** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 1:02 pm

I haven't been able to log on in several days, what gives. Glad to see it wasn't only me tho.

Post by **Dave_K.** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 2:44 pm

Worked fine for me all weekend. Strange.

howmuchkeefe · Post by **howmuchkeefe** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 2:52 pm

I couldn't visit it all weekend long. I was beginning to think it might have been something I said.

It kind of effected my motivation to play DOJ... while I didn't play much of that, I played a pretty good bit of 3S over the weekend, alternating between interest, boredom/disappointment (on account of the stomping), and getting myself hyped for another go by browsing shoryuken.com.

Anyway, I'm glad to see it's back!

Do you guys get free web hosting? If you ever need a donation, feel free to PM me.

Post by **Icarus** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 3:25 pm

bloodflowers wrote:More or less everyone in the UK could get to it, some parts of Europe and a few in the states. It was a network problem at a provider, out of our hands.

I was wondering why there was hardly anyone visiting, when usually there is about 30+. I thought it had something to do with the football. ^_-

Middlemoor · Post by **Middlemoor** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 3:51 pm

Yeah, glad you're back.

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 5:45 pm

Hope everyone is okay. How terrible it would've been wihtout getting a daily dose of my knowledge.

Bloodreign · Post by **Bloodreign** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 6:04 pm

No wonder I couldn't acess this place for a couple of days, something told me (not an email either, just a hunch) to try again today, and I find all is fine and well once more in Shmupland.

Post by **BulletMagnet** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 6:56 pm

Yeah, I couldn't get on all weekend. I'm sure you were all just crushed.

The Coop · Post by **The Coop** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 7:08 pm

So what did I miss while I was locked out?

Vexorg · Post by **Vexorg** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 7:11 pm

I could get in from home just fine, although for some reason it lost my login twice (something I don't recall ever happening.) I couldn't get to the site from my PPC phone though.

icycalm · Post by **icycalm** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 7:14 pm

I thought the forum was nuked again. Hope you are taking regular backups.

Post by **system11** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 8:04 pm

icycalm wrote:I thought the forum was nuked again. Hope you are taking regular backups.

Automated daily.

JBC · Post by **JBC** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 8:59 pm

Luckily in the middle of the problems i moved apartments and hooked up the ole' cantenna to bleed wireless from my neighbors while waiting for my high speed to be connected and everything was fine...

Zach Keene · Post by **Zach Keene** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 9:40 pm

The Coop wrote:So what did I miss while I was locked out?

Not much really, since there weren't many people visiting.

ArrogantBastard · Post by **ArrogantBastard** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 9:57 pm

Dave_K. wrote:Worked fine for me all weekend. Strange.

Ditto.

MSZ · Post by **MSZ** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 10:42 pm

I had zero problems logging in as well.

SAM · Post by **SAM** » Tue Jun 20, 2006 5:02 am

I cann't access to the forum til yesterday...

neorichieb1971 · Post by **neorichieb1971** » Tue Jun 20, 2006 6:21 am

I got "webpage is not found" or something similar all weekend.

I'd prefer it if you put the shmups.com page on this server and the forums on the shmups.com server, because the shmups.com server NEVER goes down.

Post by **system11** » Tue Jun 20, 2006 7:36 am

neorichieb1971 wrote:I got "webpage is not found" or something similar all weekend.

I'd prefer it if you put the shmups.com page on this server and the forums on the shmups.com server, because the shmups.com server NEVER goes down.

The shmups.com page lives on a simple webhosting account. The requirements for the forum are .. significantly greater. Currently we're running on a dedicated server, hardware raid with a spare machine in the rack that the disks could be swapped into in emergency. This machine has multiple net ports, plugged into multiple switches, with multiple providers carrying our address space (BGP if you know what that is).

And you know what life will teach you? Things can still screw up that you've got absolutely no control over. And when it's something everyone uses 24/7, every minute of the day, people will notice.

J-Manic · Post by **J-Manic** » Tue Jun 20, 2006 7:54 am

I have a cable modem at my house, and it wasn't working at all. But I got the e-mail notice, which was cool.

But it was working at my friends house the very same day. And he has AOL on dial-up.

weird

neorichieb1971 · Post by **neorichieb1971** » Tue Jun 20, 2006 7:57 am

By the time I got the email, the site was back up

Post by **system11** » Tue Jun 20, 2006 8:21 am

J-Manic wrote:I have a cable modem at my house, and it wasn't working at all. But I got the e-mail notice, which was cool.

But it was working at my friends house the very same day. And he has AOL on dial-up.

weird

Ok, I'll explain this one just once

Let's say you have a city surrounded by water, with two bridges. If people want to drive to that city, they join the road system signposted in the right direction. The signs different people will see, will depend on where they live - some will eventually filter into one bridge, some into the other. Now, if one of the bridges is destroyed, people will find out and change their route to use the other, but if someone just changes the signs on one side so they point a circle, half the people will run out of fuel and never reach the city.

Ceph · Post by **Ceph** » Tue Jun 20, 2006 10:01 am

bloodflowers wrote:
J-Manic wrote:I have a cable modem at my house, and it wasn't working at all. But I got the e-mail notice, which was cool.

But it was working at my friends house the very same day. And he has AOL on dial-up.

weird
Ok, I'll explain this one just once

Let's say you have a city surrounded by water, with two bridges. If people want to drive to that city, they join the road system signposted in the right direction. The signs different people will see, will depend on where they live - some will eventually filter into one bridge, some into the other. Now, if one of the bridges is destroyed, people will find out and change their route to use the other, but if someone just changes the signs on one side so they point a circle, half the people will run out of fuel and never reach the city.

Nice

However, I wonder how one provider decides to take one way and another provider to take the other way? Why is there no automated system in place that notifies a provider once a loop occurs and makes it change the route?

Sorry for this blunt display of ignorance.

BIG · Post by **BIG** » Tue Jun 20, 2006 5:14 pm

Logged-on fine,no problem here.

B-

Post by **system11** » Tue Jun 20, 2006 5:27 pm

Ceph wrote: Nice
However, I wonder how one provider decides to take one way and another provider to take the other way? Why is there no automated system in place that notifies a provider once a loop occurs and makes it change the route?

Sorry for this blunt display of ignorance.

Because that protocol doesn't exist. With BGP and our analogy, the city has a radio news station that can tell drivers to use the other bridge, and it can see both bridges and knows if one falls down, but it can't see any further than that.

Doesn't quite work with the analogy - but the end result is the same, how far do you go with checking? To the ISP? Halfway through the ISP? Into the peering providers? You can't monitor every possible thing between X and all the iterations of Y.