Extronswitch to 2 different Sony PVM

[jbend99]

Hi!

Seeking help in how to solve my problem in the best way and with as little signal loss as possible. Hoping anyone here can provide a good recommendation.

The setup: 2 Sony PVM (one 2950QM and one 2044QM), 2 Extron Crosspoint Ultra 128 BNC/Scart switches, 1 Kramer VP-1608 BNC/scart switch, 1 Extron RGB 203 Rxi and a lot of scart to BNC cables (both with and without sync stripper) and 24 consoles with HQ RGB output cables.

The problem: the only way I have been successful connecting consoles to the 2950 is by using scart to bnc with sync stripper to connect to an Extron or the Kramer, then bnc cables on the output from the switch to the monitor. And the only way to connect to the 2044 is using the same setup as for the 2950, but without the sync stripper on the scart to bnc connection from the console. The 2950QM require sync stripper while the 2044QM doesn't.

My question is then, if and how I could connect both my PVM:s to the same switch on different outputs and my consoles to the inputs on the same switch? One monitor requires sync stripper and one doesn't. The only way I could think of my self would be to connect one monitor to each of the Extron:s and use a scart Y-cable before connecting the scart to bnc adapter to both of the 2 switches at the same time, but this is not a good solution in my mind.

Any thoughts and input on this is really appreciated, thanks!

[jbend99]

Don't know if it helps, but I forgot to mention I also have a couple of Gscart switches and a Hydra as well.

[kitty666cats]

It seems like you don’t need any more gear… but the wording and sporadic listing of all this different gear you have is extremely confusing.

https://www.js-technology.com/store/ind ... er=product

^ This SHOULD do what I think you are getting at (versus a Y cable which is absolutely a terrible choice) but I feel like you likely already have a solution right under your nose.

Also, using a cable/adapter with a sync stripper on a monitor that doesn’t need clean csync is fine.

From re-reading, I believe just putting the 203 Rxi at the very end of the video chain is the answer.

[jbend99]

Thanks for the reply, sometimes is all you need is for someone to say that it should work, try again!

When I first tried it, I couldn't get sync on both monitors at the same time. Tried it once more now and it worked! Must have been a wrong connection or glitch the last time.

[Guspaz]

Are you trying to get a different image on each PVM? If not, and assuming one of your PVMs has video outputs like most do, just connect the outputs of one PVM to the inputs of the other.

[jbend99]

Yeah, that's the idea with the Kramer switch I'm using. I can connect 16 consoles to the switch and both the monitors at the same time, so I can choose which console I want for each display. Image above was just an example as I only connected the Saturn to the switch for testing.

But you are right, if the goal would have been to have the same source on both, I could have used the output from one of them to the input on the other one.

[Aquamentus]

I have a very very similar setup with a 32 input 16 output and a 16 input 16 output extron matrix except I run outputs to a PVM-20L5, 36” RGB Modded CRT, ossc, retrotink 5x, Framemeister, and a gbs-control (the upscale then goto an hdmi matrix switch along with my newer & hdmi modded consoles).

What you want to do should work easily as long as your extron switches are the cross point matrix type. You should have multiple inputs and multiple outputs and numbered buttons on the front. Connect one screen to one out and the other screen to another output then connect your consoles to the inputs. Press the button corresponding to your desired consoles input port then press the button corresponding to your desired monitors output port then press enter. Done.

If you want the 203Rxi to be part of the setup for both monitors and multiple consoles you will have to set it up as a loop back device. Meaning you connect an output from the matrix switch to the 203rxi input and then connect the 203rxi output to the matrix switch’s input. When you want a console to run through the 203rxi first you press the console button then the Output button for the 203rxi then press enter then press the input button for the 203rxi and the output button for your desired screen then enter again. I have my Kramer Composite/S-Video decoder setup like this so that I can have my few s-video only devices in the loop (like my 7800 & pc-fx) and I also have a component to RGB transcoder setup like this for my couple of consoles with component only or component/hdmi (Xbox, Xbox 360, psp, ps3).

As far as using multiple switches you should be able to daisy chain them by connecting the output from one to the input on another. You don’t worry about connecting the monitors until the last one in the chain. The loop back device can be on any of the switches. I have the 16 input feed into the 32 input and I have my loop back devices and s-video/component on the 16 input to keep things neater while my straight RGB stuff is on the 32 input. That’s how I have my 32 input and 16input crosspoints connected.

Edit: just noticed you have a pic, I have the newer Cross point 450 ultra matrix switches but I’m 99% sure it should work the same for yours. Nice collection - you definitely have a couple that I’m still missing. Those last few rare consoles, jap/euro exclusives, consolized handhelds, and consolized arcade Multis sure eat up funds quick lol.