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 Post subject: Re: Shikigami no Shiro
PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2021 5:07 pm 


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Got a clear+decent scoring with Sayo some days ago, after what can be best described as a rollercoaster of a run lol
Arcade Sayo
M.Knight - 24,810 - x6 - ALL - 1,789,487,870 - A
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKKGTpTiXTA
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/992707479?t=55m10s

The early stages went well but after 3-3 I just kept limping with low resources. The boss milk was not too great, whenever I got some lives back I would eventually lose them, and some ridiculous boss hitbox misdjudging errors at the end of the milk put me back to 1 life for 5-2. I got an extend at 5-2 thankfully, and I managed to get the clear with no resources left. That was hella tense lol.
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 Post subject: Re: Shikigami no Shiro
PostPosted: Tue Apr 27, 2021 6:24 am 


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Oh, I suppose this is a good place to submit my replay. https://youtu.be/zGcI44PVxZk
GET ITEMS: 25238, Tension Average: x7, stage: All, score: 1,963,862,310. Class: A (6 hits)

This run was achieved after getting back to the game after a longer break and practicing all sections for one day, so I'm confident I can push somewhat significantly higher.
Currently looking for places to suicide. Thinking about either double suiciding on 4-2 or double suiciding on 3-1 and once on 4-2 or 4-3.
3-1 boss will probably just be quick killed from now on. The transition takes too long and I may not be able to make any meaningful profit there score-wise.

With my current milk, 1 second is worth ~2mil to me. It would be ideal if I could find a way to lock on to the 2nd and 5th crystal on the 1st and 2nd wave but who knows if doing that + having max tension is reasonably doable.

I do not know yet how much time I'm going to need in 5-2 but I wouldn't be surprised if another 2 deaths at the end there were also good. I left 5-1 early (by accident) in this run but thanks to losing power and going for all the bottom spiders, I timed out anyway despite having 128s :P


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 Post subject: Re: Shikigami no Shiro
PostPosted: Tue Apr 27, 2021 12:42 pm 


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Nice!
I will post my response in PM here to:

I just copy and past the kuga's first spot nameo steam end google and got this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tsfu2lcN9pg

this guy uses the same techniques that I used. Maybe I learned from him. This is my master's email, but I don't think there is anyone else there: stormypetrel572@hotmail.com


Sayo 4.4Bi run: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpxeKGZNdqc


I will download this replay now. I can't lose this strategies again. :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Shikigami no Shiro
PostPosted: Tue Apr 27, 2021 8:41 pm 


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Thank you so much!
Quite embarrased that I never thought of just looking up the #1 score holder myself. I like what I see in the replay, though 4-2 confuses me greatly as it looks like it's wasting a lot of time. Do you think a double suicide on 4-1 would be better for score rather than a single death?


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 Post subject: Re: Shikigami no Shiro
PostPosted: Tue Apr 27, 2021 9:23 pm 


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I would say, never die. Die waste time and you want lots of time to milk the 5-1 until the heads don't let you go further.


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 Post subject: Re: Shikigami no Shiro
PostPosted: Tue Apr 27, 2021 9:37 pm 


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I'm under the impression that the 2 bombs you can get from getting hit are quite helpful when trying to save time. In that case, I wonder why Akai uses two bombs on 4-1 dragon but none on 4-2. Those two mid bosses just confuse me. I can't tell what the intention is.


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 Post subject: Re: Shikigami no Shiro
PostPosted: Tue Apr 27, 2021 9:47 pm 


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AlvaLynsis wrote:
I'm under the impression that the 2 bombs you can get from getting hit

You will get more bombs just from scoring over 1Bi before boss 5-1.
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I wonder why Akai uses two bombs on 4-1 dragon but none on 4-2. Those two


Because 4-1 can get out off screen and consume time.


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 Post subject: Re: Shikigami no Shiro
PostPosted: Tue Apr 27, 2021 10:05 pm 


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Okay, I think I get what my issue was. I never knew bombs were actually so weak on the 4-2 mid boss. Wow. I know that the dragon can leave the screen but it only does so if you do too much damage. But after looking at the timers again, it's starting to make sense. The time difference between using 2 bombs on it and using only the shiki on it are 8 seconds. I thought it was less due to miscalculation.

It's making a lot more sense now.


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 Post subject: Re: Shikigami no Shiro
PostPosted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 1:17 am 


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AlvaLynsis wrote:
It's making a lot more sense now.

In Shikigami no Shiro you live or die for time. :D
Good lucky!


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 Post subject: Re: Shikigami no Shiro
PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 1:46 pm 


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In that case, I want to ask you another question since you should be able to tell better. 4-1 seems like an unintentional hit. Do you think HomeRun Akai intended to defeat the Dragon with the Shiki only but decided to use his 2 new bombs for the speedkill instead which saves 7 seconds?


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 Post subject: Re: Shikigami no Shiro
PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 10:32 pm 


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Better to use tension shoot Kuga's shiki is very weak.


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 Post subject: Re: Shikigami no Shiro
PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 10:15 pm 


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https://youtu.be/b_cSjay_uZE
Score: 2,523,151,470, Get Items: 30852, Class: S (5 hits), Reached Stage: All, Tension Average: x7


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 Post subject: Re: Shikigami no Shiro
PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2021 11:45 am 


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Arcade Sayo
M.Knight - 37,648 - x6 - ALL - 2,882,472,110 - A
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2d_RqQEUayA

After some practice (especially on the milk) I have this 2.8 bil score that's much safer than my first clear. There's still room for improvement, I would like to get 3 bil if possible.

third_strike : By the way, do you know if the replays you previously had were from various players or the same one? I downloaded them back then and recently re-uploaded them ( you can see the links in the Shmups Wiki video index : https://shmups.wiki/library/Shikigami_n ... ideo_Index ), but I had to refer to the initials we see at the end of some runs in the replay menu to infer the names. There's ENX? but also stuff like DIL or SI2R. Are they all different people?
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 Post subject: Re: Shikigami no Shiro
PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2021 2:41 pm 


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M.Knight wrote:
Arcade Sayo
M.Knight - 37,648 - x6 - ALL - 2,882,472,110 - A
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2d_RqQEUayA

After some practice (especially on the milk) I have this 2.8 bil score that's much safer than my first clear. There's still room for improvement, I would like to get 3 bil if possible.

third_strike : By the way, do you know if the replays you previously had were from various players or the same one? I downloaded them back then and recently re-uploaded them ( you can see the links in the Shmups Wiki video index : https://shmups.wiki/library/Shikigami_n ... ideo_Index ), but I had to refer to the initials we see at the end of some runs in the replay menu to infer the names. There's ENX? but also stuff like DIL or SI2R. Are they all different people?


They are different people, you can see for initials . And thanks for upload the replays. Keep the scores coming.


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 Post subject: Re: Shikigami no Shiro
PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2021 2:21 am 


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I guess I'm not done yet. I wanna test some new techniques still, but this score got me quite excited.

PLAYER: Mishi
GET ITEMS: 48,727
TENSION AVERAGE: x7
REACHED STAGE: All
SCORE: 3,681,651,450
CLASS: A
CHARACTER: Kim

https://youtu.be/An90RUiUECE
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 Post subject: Re: Shikigami no Shiro
PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2021 2:09 pm 


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That is a huge improvements guys, I'm getting jealous :oops: :oops: :oops:


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 Post subject: Re: Shikigami no Shiro
PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2021 4:14 pm 


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It's been a few weeks since I have gotten a new personal-best so I might as well put this up just in case I never get a better score :oops:
Joining the 3 billion club; aiming to win the Kim Race too~

I -almost- had another run for 3 billion the other night, but AS PER USUAL i choked hard on stage 5.

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EmperorIng - 40,662 - x6 - ALL - 3,050,128,020 - S

Video of the run: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/992895865

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I was pleased that this turned out to be a S rank, which is rare in these runs, lol. I need to up my game and time-saving strategy... but Stage 3 is so risky with my current routes, regardless of whether or not I take one intentional death there, or two. I really need to find out a way to get close, or crack that 1,050,000 mark before the 5-1 boss to get that precious bomb/extend.
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 Post subject: Re: Shikigami no Shiro
PostPosted: Sun May 09, 2021 1:20 pm 


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Character: Kuga
Score: 2,695,203,830
Get Items: 33037
Damage Times: 7
Tension Average: 7
Reached Stage: ALL
Class: A
https://youtu.be/Wol6LQdwVOk

I'm going back to practicing before doing any more runs. I want to get 3 bil at some point.


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 Post subject: Re: Shikigami no Shiro
PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2021 2:34 pm 


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Joining the 3 billion club

And over 40K itens!

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I want to get 3 bil at some point.


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Good! Jobs Guys!!!!!!


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 Post subject: Re: Shikigami no Shiro
PostPosted: Fri May 28, 2021 1:31 am 


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PLAYER: Mishi
GET ITEMS: 51,790
TENSION AVERAGE: x7
REACHED STAGE: All
SCORE: 3,980,062,450
CLASS: B
CHARACTER: Kim

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I got hit way too much, but still a massive PB. I was gonna wait till I get a 4B run and an actual recording of it, but I'll post this here in the meantime till that happens.
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 Post subject: Re: Shikigami no Shiro
PostPosted: Fri May 28, 2021 2:21 pm 


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i've said it elsewhere, but man, what a legendary score. 4 billion is so close, and for me so far. I feel like I've long fallen off in the 'race'. :P

Good luck if you can manage another perfect run and record it too!
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 Post subject: Re: Shikigami no Shiro
PostPosted: Sat May 29, 2021 4:29 pm 


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Mishi wrote:
PLAYER: Mishi
GET ITEMS: 51,790
TENSION AVERAGE: x7
REACHED STAGE: All
SCORE: 3,980,062,450
CLASS: B
CHARACTER: Kim

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I got hit way too much, but still a massive PB. I was gonna wait till I get a 4B run and an actual recording of it, but I'll post this here in the meantime till that happens.



Congratulation for the score. Now you are in top.

I would like trythis game too, but I can't get the EX version running in my windows 10 PC. When I double click the iso I get a mensage saying which the iso is corrupted. Can Someone assist me?


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 Post subject: Re: Shikigami no Shiro
PostPosted: Mon May 31, 2021 2:09 am 


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I know a few others had trouble with the EX version on windows 10, so not sure what you would need to do there. There is a steam version release for what it is worth, but it's not a perfect replacement either.
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