But my fear is that with age, they will become establishment dems.
In leftist circles, there's already a trickle of disaffection with AoC. I suppose it comes from a number of things - she doesn't oppose Pelosi openly, isn't incredibly vocal on stuff like the Assange trial or war, etc. Maybe they're just used to being betrayed. (I still can't believe so many of them trusted Warren.)
Ilhan Omar was a favorite punching bag of Trump's, as she represents the death of the old establishment perhaps better than anyone. A young, muslim, New Deal woman - the perfect republican boogeyman. This might have been responsible for Trump's narrow loss in Minnesota - when asked about the possibility in an interview she answered "maybe he f'd around and found out."
That's a standard internet meme in leftist circles: "fuck around and find out", you don't pick that up without genuinely being part of the culture. As to whether they feel like selling out, well, their existing donors and supporters might be sensitive enough they have external incentives not to become vampire people. Lee Carter would literally explode into chunks of meat before becoming a shill.
More likely they might just disappear. There's been plenty of talk about trying to redistrict AoC out of congress. Should only be a year or two until they have new border lines drawn.
cvaniafan wrote:Do not feel offended by what I wrote, there's nothing personal and I am not into propaganda.
Nah I'm not angry, just... really worn out treading over old ground. I probably used the same talking points to argue the democrats were a bit better than republicans when I was younger. I use the word "propaganda" neutrally in most contexts - everyone's always trying to sell someone something, including myself, it's dishonest to pretend we aren't. But when I use it regarding statistics, I do mean it's not an impartial number.
The unemployment rate as determined by their methodology is a survey that asks two basic questions: Do you have a job, and if not, are you looking for one. Only if "no" and "yes" are given in response, does someone get added to the unemployed pile. You should be able to infer the problems with this - people who give up looking for work and go home to live with their parents, or find using their time to dig through garbage cans and food shelters more productive, all fun things on the rise the past decade, make the unemployment number look
better the more of them there are. And of course, much like polling, there is some bias in who will take the time to respond to them. It's a statistic that's, by design, incredibly difficult to go above ~10%. (One of the most cynical things I saw during the 2016 election was Trump calling this a phony baloney number and I nodded my head and said to myself "if he wins, he's going to use that number all the time to advertise how well he's doing, just like every other politician has done" and, surprise, he did.)