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Top 25 Shmups of All Time (through 2018)

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##. Game                                               Score  '02 '03 '04 '05 '06 '07 '08 '09 '10 '12 '13 '14 '15 '16 '17
01. Ketsui ~Kizuna Jigoku Tachi~ (ARC/360/PS3/PS4)      7.72    .   *   *   *   *   *   +   +   +   +   +   +   +   +   +
02. Battle Garegga (ARC/SAT/PS4/XB1)                    7.27    +   +   *   +   +   +   -   -   -   -   -   =   -   =   +
03. DoDonPachi Dai-Ou-Jou / Black Label (ARC/360/etc.)  6.67    *   +   +   +   +   =   =   ~   =   +   +   =   +   -   -
04. Mushihimesama Futari / 1.5 / Black Label (ARC/360)  6.33    .   .   .   .   *   *   +   ~   ~   -   -   -   -   =   +
05. Crimzon Clover / World Ignition (PC/NESiCA)         6.16    .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   *   *   *   +   +   +   +
06. DoDonPachi (ARC/SAT/PSX)                            5.76    -   -   -   -   -   -   -   -   -   =   -   -   +   =   -
07. Armed Police Batrider (ARC)                         5.35    *   *   +   *   -   =   -   -   -   -   -   -   -   -   -
08. Ikaruga (ARC/DC/GC/360/PC/SWI)                      4.77    -   -   -   -   -   -   =   -   =   +   +   -   +   +   +
09. Gradius V (PS2)                                     4.76    .   .   -   -   -   -   =   -   +   *   +   +   +   +   +
10. R-Type (ARC/PCE/PSX/etc.)                           4.21    +   -   +   -   *   +   +   -   +   +   +   +   +   +   +
11. Mushihimesama / 1.5 (ARC/PS2/360/PC)                4.20    .   .   *   +   +   -   -   +   *   =   -   -   =   =   +
12. Radiant Silvergun (ARC/SAT/360)                     4.11    -   -   -   -   -   -   -   +   *   +   -   -   +   -   -
13. RayForce / Layer Section / etc. (ARC/PS2/SAT/etc.)  3.75    *   -   -   +   =   +   +   *   *   *   +   -   -   -   -
14. ESPGaluda / Arrange (ARC/PS2)                       3.48    .   *   +   -   -   -   -   -   -   -   -   +   +   *   +
15. Dangun Feveron (ARC/PS4/XB1)                        3.40    *   *   *   *   *   *   +   =   *   *   *   *   *   +   +
16. Gradius Gaiden (PSX/PSP)                            3.26    +   +   -   -   -   -   *   +   *   +   *   *   +   +   -
17. R-Type Delta (PSX)                                  3.24    *   *   +   +   +   *   *   *   *   *   *   *   *   *   *
18. Under Defeat (DC/ARC/360/PS3)                       3.20    .   .   .   *   +   *   *   *   *   *   *   *   *   +   =
19. Batsugun / Batsugun Special (ARC/SAT)               3.15    *   -   -   *   +   -   -   +   -   -   -   -   -   +   -
20. Thunder Dragon 2 (ARC)                              3.12    *   *   *   *   *   *   *   *   *   *   *   *   *   *   +
21. Strikers 1945 II (ARC/SAT/PSX/PS2/SWI)              2.95    -   -   -   -   *   =   -   -   -   -   +   -   +   -   +
22. Gunbird 2 (ARC/DC/SWI)                              2.824   +   -   -   -   -   *   *   -   -   -   -   -   *   -   -
23. DoDonPachi Daifukkatsu/1.5/Resurrection (ARC/etc.)  2.822   .   .   .   .   .   .   *   *   *   =   *   *   *   *   *
24. Deathsmiles / Mega Black Label (ARC/360)            2.68    .   .   .   .   .   *   *   ~   -   *   -   -   *   *   *
25. ZeroRanger (PC)                                     2.67    .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .
  • = denotes the game holds the same position now as the year indicated.
  • + denotes the game holds an improved standing compared to the year indicated.
  • - denotes the game holds a reduced standing compared to the year indicated.
  • * denotes the game was not on the list for the year indicated.
  • . denotes the game was not released or otherwise eligible for voting for the year indicated.
  • ~ denotes the game vote was classified (significantly) differently for the year indicated.

Honourable Mention

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Game                                                    '02 '03 '04 '05 '06 '07 '08 '09 '10 '12 '13 '14 '15 '16 '17
Cho Ren Sha 68K (PC/X68)                                  +   +   +   +   +   +   +   +   =   =   =   +   =   =   +
Darius Gaiden (ARC/SAT/PS2/etc.)                          +   +   =   =   =   =   =   =   -   =   =   -   -   -   =
DoDonPachi Saidaioujou (ARC/360)                          .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   +   -   -   =   =   =
DonPachi (ARC/SAT/PSX)                                    -   -   -   =   =   =   =   =   =   =   =   =   =   =   +
Dragon Blaze (ARC/PS2/SWI)                                +   +   =   =   =   =   =   =   -   -   =   =   -   =   -
Einhänder (PSX)                                           =   =   -   -   -   =   =   =   =   =   =   +   =   =   +
Eschatos (360/PC)                                         .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   +   =   =   =   -   =   +
ESP Ra.De. (ARC)                                          -   -   -   -   -   -   -   =   =   =   =   =   =   =   =
Flying Shark / Hishouzame / Sky Shark (ARC/NES/etc.)      +   +   +   +   +   +   +   +   +   +   =   =   +   =   =
G-Darius (ARC/PS2/PSX)                                    +   =   =   =   =   =   =   =   =   =   =   =   +   =   =
Gradius II: Gofer no Yabou (ARC/SAT/FC/etc.)              +   =   =   =   +   =   +   +   =   =   +   =   =   =   =
Gradius / Nemesis (ARC/NES/PCE/etc.)                      =   =   =   +   +   +   +   =   =   +   =   =   +   +   =
Great Fairy Wars [Touhou 12.8] (PC)                       .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   +   =   +   +   =   +
Guwange (ARC/360)                                         -   -   =   -   =   -   -   -   -   =   =   =   =   =   =
Ibara (ARC/PS2)                                           .   .   .   =   =   -   -   -   -   -   -   -   -   =   =
Judgement Silversword (WSC/360/PC)                        .   .   +   +   +   +   +   +   +   +   +   +   +   =   =
Mars Matrix (ARC/DC)                                      -   -   -   -   -   -   -   -   -   -   -   -   -   -   -
Muchi Muchi Pork! (ARC/360)                               .   .   .   .   .   +   +   +   -   -   -   =   -   =   -
Perfect Cherry Blossom [Touhou 7] (PC)                    .   +   +   +   +   +   +   +   =   =   =   =   =   =   =
Progear no Arashi (ARC)                                   +   +   +   =   =   -   -   =   =   =   =   =   =   -   -
Radirgy / Radio Allergy (ARC/DC/GC/PS2)                   .   .   .   +   +   +   +   +   +   +   +   +   +   +   +
Raiden DX (ARC/PSX)                                       +   +   -   -   -   =   -   =   -   =   -   =   =   -   =
Raiden Fighters Jet (ARC/360)                             +   =   =   +   +   =   -   -   -   -   -   -   -   -   =
Salamander 2 (ARC/SAT/PSX)                                +   +   +   +   +   +   +   +   +   +   +   +   =   +   =
Soukyugurentai / Terra Diver (SAT/ARC/PSX)                -   -   -   -   -   -   =   -   =   -   =   =   =   =   =
Strikers 1999 / Strikers 1945 III (ARC)                   +   +   +   +   +   +   +   +   =   =   =   +   =   =   =
Thunder Force IV / Lightening Force (MD/GEN/SAT)          -   -   -   -   -   -   =   +   =   =   =   =   =   =   =
Triggerheart Exelica (ARC/DC/PS2/360)                     .   .   .   .   +   +   +   =   +   +   +   +   +   +   +
Twin Cobra / Kyukyoku Tiger (ARC/PCE/etc.)                +   =   +   +   =   =   +   +   +   =   +   =   +   =   +
Zero Gunner 2 (ARC/DC/SWI)                                +   -   =   =   +   +   =   =   =   +   +   +   +   +   +
  • = denotes the game was also on the HM list for the year indicated.
  • + denotes the game was on neither the HM list nor the top 25 for the year indicated.
  • - denotes the game was in the top 25 for the year indicated.
  • . denotes the game was not released or otherwise eligible for voting for the year indicated.


What Dropped from 2017's Top 25:
  • Dragon Blaze (ARC/PS2/SWI)
  • Mars Matrix (ARC/DC)
  • Muchi Muchi Pork! (ARC/360)
  • Progear no Arashi (ARC)
What Dropped from 2017's Honourable Mentions:
  • Akai Katana (ARC/360)
  • Battle Bakraid (ARC)
  • Border Down (ARC/DC)
  • Darius Burst: Another Chronicle / EX / Chronicle Saviours (ARC/PC/PS4/Vita)
  • ESPGaluda II (ARC/360)
  • Giga Wing (ARC/DC)
  • Giga Wing 2 (ARC/DC)
  • Twinkle Star Sprites (ARC/SAT/DC/etc.)


Breakdown by Developer

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                   Top 25         Hon.M.          Overall
Cave                  9               7              16
Psikyo                2               3              5
Konami                1               3              4
Treasure              3               -              3
Raizing               2               1              3
Taito                 1               2              3
Toaplan               1               2              3
Irem                  2               -              2
Seibu Kaihatsu        -               2              2
Team Shanghai Alice   -               2              2
Qute                  -               2              2
G.rev                 1               -              1
NMK                   1               -              1
Yotsubane             1               -              1
System Erasure        1               -              1
Milestone             -               1              1
Squaresoft            -               1              1
Famibe no Yosshin     -               1              1
Technosoft            -               1              1
Warashi               -               1              1
Takumi                -               1              1

Breakdown by Original Platform

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System             Top 25         Hon.M.          Overall
Arcade                20             23              43
PC/Windows             2              2               4
PlayStation            2              1               3
PlayStation 2          1              -               1
Mega Drive/Genesis     -              1               1
X68000                 -              1               1
WonderSwan Color       -              1               1
Xbox 360               -              1               1

Most Personal Honourable Mentions ([0])

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Game                                                No. of appearances
Blazing Star (ARC/NG)                                     4
Deathsmiles / Mega Black Label (ARC/360)                  4
RayForce / Layer Section / etc. (ARC/PS2/SAT/etc.)        3
Einhänder (PSX)                                           3
Thunder Force V (SAT/PSX)                                 3

Miscellaneous Stats:
  • Number of Counted Voters: 62
  • Total Vote Weight: 58.0
  • Number of Games Voted For: 372
  • Number of Honourable Mentions: 30
  • Proportion of Voters who chose to use a Shortlist: 0.26 (16/62)
  • Proportion of Voters who chose to include Personal Honourable Mentions: 0.27 (17/62)
  • Proportion of Personal Honourable Mentions included where eligible: 0.37 (17/46)
  • Number of Games Receiving Only [0]'s: 35
  • Games Supported by at least half of voters (≥29.0 combined): 2
  • Games Supported by at least 1/4 of voters (≥14.5 combined): 17
  • Top 25 Score Spread: 2.669 - 7.716
  • Honourable Mention Score Spread: 1.352 - 2.570
  • Total Score Spread: 0.043 - 7.716


Random Comments:
  • The lead rotates again as Ketsui claims its first ever first place. Meanwhile, blitzing out of essentially nothing comes the sudden finisher now known as ZeroRanger, described by waves of new fans as being "as irresistible as unripe citrus".
  • It's been a long time coming, but Mars Matrix's chain timer has finally run out. Only DoDonPachi and Ikaruga now remain as perennial no-missers, both of which continue to look like they won't be flirting with the lower end of the list anytime soon.
  • More and more as time goes on, the benefits of sticking around and weathering the genre hype phases are showing themselves. The Honourable Mentions are always open for a steady re-entry, but a fortunate enough game might even find themselves in the position R-Type Delta has this year - that being a position right back up at the pointy end. After what a brief count appears to be a record period of time off of over a decade (beating out the previous period held by Under Defeat), and almost getting enough votes the last couple of years, the game has now not only returned but vaulted to its highest placing ever.
  • To top off proceedings, one more milestone has been reached this year as Radirgy also makes the HMs at last and I'm so happy I finally get to make that pun
  • The discussion thread for this year's poll is here.
  • The votes for this year's poll can be found here.
  • The full results are just down the page there but if you want a shortcut you can click here.
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R-Type Delta! Yes! I'm so happy to see this in 14th position. Game is awesome and the soundtrack is killer.

But... Progear... really? :(

Next year I'm definitely going to vote.
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No Mars Matrix in the top 25?

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a little bummed Gradius V outranked Gradius Gaiden, but i havent given V enough of a chance to really know for sure. Gaiden is still super underrated though IMO
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Wow, zero ranger made it to the top 25, congrats guys!

AW YISS Radirgy on honorable mention, finally!!!!

DBCS dropping the list tho :?
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My two favorite shmups dropped from the top 25
Progear and Muchi Muchi Pork :O

Also yikes @ no mars matrix :/
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I'm sad about Mars Matrix dropping off the top 25, but Under Defeat being on there makes me happy. That honorable mention list is solid. You can't go wrong with any of those. It's kind of amazing to be able to list over 50 great games in a genre, and there are plenty of excellent ones still not mentioned. What a great reminder of the huge quantity of high quality shooters out there.
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Nice to see Ketsui get the #1 spot; it deserves just as much recognition as DOJ imo. Obviously this is a sign I should start playing it more...

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Thunder Dragon 2 crawling up the list hell yeah.
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Mushi Futari was robbed. There's there's about the stage design in that game that is really special.

Seeing R-Type in the top 10 brings me life. Arguably the best game of the 80's, shmup or otherwise. Love to see Delta in the top 25 as well.

APB and Crimzon Clover ranking really high is also ace.

Ketsui, I really liked what I played, the final stage is just a bit out of my skill level these days, and married life means it's hard to dedicate time to a game I can't play on the couch. I try to reserve judgment until I can 1CC, but I see the quality for sure.
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Congratulations to Ebbo and eebrozgi for ZeroRanger's very warm reception!

Maybe I shouldn't have dropped my vote for Dragon Blaze... :?

Interesting that there were only two "Games Supported by at least half of voters (≥29.0 combined)," which games were they?
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Indeed yes, congratulations to the Zero Ranger developers. Still looking forward to the Linux version whenever you guys get around to it!

As for the list, it's very interesting. R-Type and R-Type Delta are my two favourite shmups -- both in my top 10 games regardless of genre -- and I'm ecstatic to see them so well placed this year.
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Thanks for doing the leg work again Nifty!

Solid lists for the most part. Deathsmiles over Progear is a bit of a head scratcher, but that is a matter of taste on my part. And Mars Matrix got demoted too!? Also I need to play Thunder Dragon 2.

Congrats to System Erasure for debuting at #25 with Zero Ranger. I see that staying on either one of these lists for a long time to come.

How come this thread isn't at the top of the forum every year? It's a great resource for new players who are wondering what they should play.
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Thx for doing this.
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Thanks, Nifty.

So, Ketsui, huh? I can't say I expected this, but I'm perfectly fine with it. Very solid lists again. Congratulations to ZeroRanger.
(As in the last years, I'm very disappointed in the lack of Shiki II, though.)
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Thank you, all! It's surreal seeing ZeroRanger and System Erasure up there. There might be a bit of honeymoon effect going on, but we'll enjoy it while it lasts!

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This year's full results are now also in order.

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###. Game Name                                          Total Score|Votes|HMs|SLs|Total Game Weight
     Top 25:

001. Ketsui ~Kizuna Jigoku Tachi~                        : 7.715517   20   2  14   1.836179
002. Battle Garegga                                      : 7.268023   28   1   6   1.537346
003. DoDonPachi Dai-Ou-Jou Black Label / White Label     : 6.668768   20   0   7   1.561275
004. Mushihimesama Futari / 1.5 / Black Label            : 6.327956   19   0   5   1.517727
005. Crimzon Clover / World Ignition                     : 6.159744   21   1   7   1.339413
006. DoDonPachi                                          : 5.763026   18   2   6   1.298906
007. Armed Police Batrider                               : 5.348493   16   2   8   1.169810
008. Ikaruga                                             : 4.774837   16   2   3   1.082787
009. Gradius V                                           : 4.760024   18   0   2   1.070148
010. R-Type                                              : 4.211554   15   2   4   0.894500
011. Mushihimesama / 1.5                                 : 4.196202   14   0   5   0.926617
012. Radiant Silvergun                                   : 4.107246   17   2   2   0.843265
013. RayForce/Layer Section/Gunlock/Galactic Attack      : 3.753116   16   3   1   0.757635
014. ESPGaluda / Arrange                                 : 3.480697   13   2   6   0.655462
015. Dangun Feveron                                      : 3.398213   10   1   4   0.776605
016. Gradius Gaiden                                      : 3.256720   10   1   3   0.749899
017. R-Type Delta                                        : 3.241021   12   2   2   0.692008
018. Under Defeat                                        : 3.199065   11   0   4   0.692407
019. Batsugun / Batsugun Special                         : 3.145021   12   2   2   0.658642
020. Thunder Dragon 2                                    : 3.119543   08   0   1   0.822071
021. Strikers 1945 II                                    : 2.946794   11   1   3   0.612218
022. Gunbird 2                                           : 2.824073   12   1   2   0.562073
023. DoDonPachi Daifukkatsu / 1.5                        : 2.822227   09   2   1   0.658810
024. Deathsmiles / Mega Black Label                      : 2.679060   12   4   3   0.444256
025. ZeroRanger                                          : 2.669321   12   1   1   0.530759


     Honorable Mention:

026. Muchi Muchi Pork!                                   : 2.570137   08   1   3   0.571192
027. Mars Matrix                                         : 2.483854   08   1   3   0.541203
028. Progear no Arashi                                   : 2.466069   07   1   4   0.542513
029. Gradius II: Gofer no Yabou (ARC/NES)                : 2.388789   09   1   2   0.500671
030. Raiden DX                                           : 2.348317   11   0   0   0.486605
031. Darius Gaiden                                       : 2.298870   12   0   1   0.416984
032. Twin Cobra / Kyukyoku Tiger                         : 2.290911   11   1   2   0.406728
033. Dragon Blaze                                        : 2.246264   10   1   2   0.421172
034. G-Darius                                            : 2.235004   11   0   0   0.447221
035. Ibara                                               : 2.234490   08   0   2   0.491986
036. Thunder Force IV / Lightening Force                 : 2.135740   06   2   3   0.465155
037. Guwange                                             : 2.049803   10   1   1   0.375361
038. Strikers 1945 III / Strikers 1999                   : 1.983785   08   0   2   0.404850
030. DonPachi                                            : 1.870277   09   0   1   0.357908
040. Perfect Cherry Blossom [Touhou 7]                   : 1.829847   06   1   1   0.418762
041. Einhänder                                           : 1.782004   07   3   1   0.342209
042. Raiden Fighters Jet                                 : 1.768530   09   1   0   0.330035
043. Flying Shark / Hishouzame                           : 1.682369   05   0   2   0.389976
044. Judgement Silversword                               : 1.667920   06   1   2   0.340010
045. Soukyugurentai / Terra Diver                        : 1.659152   08   2   1   0.284529
046. Salamander 2                                        : 1.607297   06   0   1   0.356393
047. ESP Ra.De.                                          : 1.588074   08   1   2   0.252334
048. Cho Ren Sha 68K                                     : 1.581393   07   0   2   0.294955
049. Eschatos                                            : 1.550204   07   1   1   0.291606
050. Great Fairy Wars [Touhou 12.8]                      : 1.511649   03   0   3   0.368093
051. Gradius / Nemesis (ARC/NES)                         : 1.492776   06   0   2   0.294118
052. Zero Gunner 2                                       : 1.445892   05   2   3   0.255350
053. DoDonPachi Saidaioujou                              : 1.443928   06   2   0   0.292121
054. Radirgy                                             : 1.413210   05   0   0   0.341370
055. Triggerheart Exelica                                : 1.352199   05   0   1   0.297692


     The Rest:

056. Sexy Parodius                                       : 1.315462   05   1   2   0.247471
057. Sengoku Blade / Tengai                              : 1.284962   04   0   2   0.281814
058. Darius Burst: Another Chronicle / EX / Saviours     : 1.279147   06   2   0   0.234849
059. Seisou Kouki Strania / The Stella Machina           : 1.274929   07   0   1   0.210911
060. Viper Phase 1 / New                                 : 1.256732   05   1   1   0.249530
061. ESPGaluda II                                        : 1.255279   07   1   0   0.211572
062. Battle Bakraid                                      : 1.245604   07   0   0   0.223191
063. Salamander (ARC/PCE)                                : 1.236779   07   1   0   0.205142
064. Varth: Operation Thunderstorm                       : 1.208356   06   0   0   0.240207
065. Akai Katana                                         : 1.186638   05   2   0   0.232659
066. Super Aleste / Space Megaforce                      : 1.129587   05   0   0   0.242792
067. Raiden Fighters 2                                   : 1.033219   05   0   0   0.209298
068. DoDonPachi Daifukkatsu Black Label                  : 1.030864   04   0   0   0.238442
069. Phantasmagoria of Dim. Dream [Touhou 3]             : 1.028316   01   0   2   0.282500
070. Border Down                                         : 1.023131   05   0   0   0.205792
071. Raiden (ARC) / Raiden Trad (SNES)                   : 1.011030   03   1   2   0.201586
072. R-Type II                                           : 1.010349   04   1   0   0.216331
073. Air Gallet / Akuu Gallet                            : 1.009629   05   1   1   0.163646
074. Blue Revolver                                       : 1.009348   04   2   2   0.156058
075. Imperishable Night [Touhou 8]                       : 0.989791   05   0   1   0.171732
076. Psyvariar Revision                                  : 0.987999   05   0   0   0.193581
077. Xevious                                             : 0.981118   04   1   1   0.183699
078. Galaga '88                                          : 0.972093   05   0   0   0.188053
079. Strikers 1945                                       : 0.941131   03   0   3   0.169801
080. Axelay                                              : 0.938478   06   0   1   0.123935
081. Twinkle Star Sprites                                : 0.937196   04   2   1   0.153452
082. Cyvern: The Dragon Weapons                          : 0.919782   04   2   0   0.169871
083. Musha Aleste / M.U.S.H.A.                           : 0.917810   04   1   2   0.139223
084. Gradius III (SNES)                                  : 0.911554   04   2   1   0.144540
085. Gun.Smoke                                           : 0.907995   04   1   1   0.158284
086. Guardian Force                                      : 0.899754   04   0   0   0.192873
087. Raiden V / Director's Cut                           : 0.879891   06   0   0   0.126044
088. Galaga                                              : 0.870569   03   1   1   0.175239
089. Out Zone                                            : 0.868944   04   0   1   0.159692
090. R-Type Leo                                          : 0.867400   04   0   0   0.181628
091. Tatsujin / Truxton                                  : 0.854560   01   0   3   0.199637
092. Parodius Da! (ARC/SAT/PSX)                          : 0.853408   02   1   2   0.176765
093. Soldier Blade                                       : 0.842996   04   1   0   0.158165
094. Image Fight                                         : 0.840226   04   0   0   0.172183
095. V-V [V-Five]                                        : 0.827550   03   1   1   0.160287
096. Dogyuun                                             : 0.822154   03   0   1   0.173392
097. Mahou Daisakusen / Sorcer Striker                   : 0.818238   04   1   0   0.149560
098. Kamui                                               : 0.816374   03   2   2   0.118949
099. 19XX: The War Against Destiny                       : 0.809582   05   1   0   0.116589
100. Caladrius / Caladrius Blaze                         : 0.796984   05   0   1   0.104719
101. Ibara Kuro / Black Label                            : 0.793096   03   0   0   0.185765
102. Metal Black                                         : 0.792490   04   1   1   0.118139
103. HellSinker                                          : 0.791950   03   0   0   0.185366
104. Embodiment of Scarlet Devil [Touhou 6]              : 0.777693   02   0   3   0.142958
105. StellaVanity                                        : 0.775460   04   0   0   0.149672
106. Thunder Force III                                   : 0.768293   03   0   1   0.154672
107. Pulstar                                             : 0.761708   04   0   0   0.144893
108. Giga Wing                                           : 0.760397   05   1   1   0.077022
109. Lords of Thunder / Winds of Thunder                 : 0.747937   03   1   0   0.155088
110. Trizeal                                             : 0.747081   04   0   0   0.139809
111. Blazing Star                                        : 0.731695   03   4   1   0.082027
112. Giga Wing 2                                         : 0.722064   04   0   0   0.131114
113. Psyvariar Medium Unit                               : 0.710047   03   0   1   0.134428
114. Ketsui Deathtiny Arrange                            : 0.700495   03   0   0   0.153580
115. X-Multiply                                          : 0.700052   04   0   0   0.123463
116. Akai Katana Shin                                    : 0.698441   03   1   0   0.137885
117. Apidya                                              : 0.694366   02   0   1   0.158940
118. Pink Sweets                                         : 0.689850   03   1   0   0.134899
119. Zanac (NES)                                         : 0.687604   03   2   0   0.119137
120. Mecha Ritz / Steel Rondo                            : 0.681851   03   1   0   0.132119
121. Fire Shark / Same! Same! Same!                      : 0.674703   03   0   0   0.144615
122. Zanac Neo                                           : 0.670922   03   1   1   0.105848
123. Detana!! TwinBee (ARC/PCE)                          : 0.662351   02   0   1   0.147813
124. Double Spoiler [Touhou 12.5]                        : 0.661639   01   0   0   0.200000
124. Illvelo                                             : 0.661639   01   0   0   0.200000
126. Thunder Force V                                     : 0.646433   03   3   0   0.089846
127. G-Stream G2020 / DeltaZeal                          : 0.630439   03   0   0   0.129231
128. Mr. Heli No Daibouken                               : 0.623083   03   0   0   0.126674
129. Shikigami no Shiro II                               : 0.622789   03   1   0   0.111591
130. Phantasmagoria of Flower View [Touhou 9]            : 0.621943   01   1   1   0.148750
131. Nexzr                                               : 0.619953   02   0   1   0.133077
132. Cambria Sword                                       : 0.608460   02   0   1   0.129082
133. TxK                                                 : 0.608368   03   0   0   0.121560
134. 1942                                                : 0.607656   02   0   1   0.128803
135. Harmful Park                                        : 0.601927   03   0   0   0.119321
136. Mountain of Faith [Touhou 10]                       : 0.601135   04   0   0   0.089083
137. Astebreed                                           : 0.591919   02   0   1   0.123333
138. Robotron 2084                                       : 0.584616   02   0   0   0.143267
139. Super Spacefortress Macross II                      : 0.582373   04   0   0   0.082562
140. Hydorah / Super Hydorah                             : 0.577874   04   1   0   0.066017
141. Daioh                                               : 0.558488   03   0   0   0.104223
142. Raiden IV                                           : 0.558468   03   0   0   0.104216
143. Aero Fighters / Sonic Wings                         : 0.553067   02   1   1   0.094848
144. Aero Fighters 2 / Sonic Wings 2                     : 0.531425   02   0   1   0.102308
145. R-Type III: The Third Lightning                     : 0.527872   02   0   1   0.101073
146. Gradius III (ARC)                                   : 0.524943   01   1   2   0.092564
147. Dragon Breed                                        : 0.524769   03   2   0   0.062541
148. Monolith                                            : 0.513877   03   0   0   0.088718
149. Power Strike II (SMS)                               : 0.513096   03   0   0   0.088446
150. Fantasy Zone II: The Tears Of Opa Opa (System 16)   : 0.508872   02   0   0   0.116941
151. TwinBee Yahho!                                      : 0.507267   01   0   1   0.123874
152. Gate of Thunder                                     : 0.500863   01   1   1   0.106667
153. Vasara 2                                            : 0.490916   03   0   0   0.080738
154. Raiden Fighters                                     : 0.487607   03   0   0   0.079588
155. Gorf                                                : 0.482948   02   0   0   0.107931
156. Xexex                                               : 0.470663   03   1   0   0.058717
157. Sky Kid                                             : 0.465186   03   0   0   0.071795
158. Danmaku Unlimited 3                                 : 0.464112   01   0   1   0.108874
159. Gunbird                                             : 0.462262   02   0   1   0.078269
160. Gokujou Parodius                                    : 0.452933   02   1   0   0.082517
161. Explosive Breaker                                   : 0.441924   01   0   1   0.101163
162. Score Rush / MP                                     : 0.431201   01   0   1   0.097436
163. Terra Cresta                                        : 0.429540   02   1   0   0.074387
164. Shoot the Bullet [Touhou 9.5]                       : 0.427945   01   0   1   0.096304
165. Mamoru-kun wa Norowarete Shimatta!                  : 0.420532   02   0   0   0.086237
166. Nex Machina                                         : 0.411956   02   0   0   0.083256
167. Resogun                                             : 0.411464   02   0   0   0.083085
168. Fantasy Zone (ARC)                                  : 0.411362   01   0   1   0.090541
169. Dragon Spirit                                       : 0.410042   02   0   0   0.082591
170. Rolling Gunner                                      : 0.409435   01   0   1   0.089871
171. Shikigami no Shiro III                              : 0.406418   03   0   0   0.051369
172. Shienryu                                            : 0.399933   02   1   0   0.064096
173. In The Hunt                                         : 0.399604   02   0   0   0.078963
174. Karous                                              : 0.399046   02   0   0   0.078769
175. Deathsmiles II / IIX                                : 0.398352   03   0   0   0.048565
176. R-Type Final                                        : 0.397367   02   0   0   0.078186
177. E.D.F.: Earth Defense Force                         : 0.393541   01   0   1   0.084347
178. Cotton Boomerang                                    : 0.378193   02   0   0   0.071521
179. Undefined Fantastic Object [Touhou 12]              : 0.376658   02   1   1   0.033535
180. GunNail                                             : 0.373923   01   0   0   0.100000
181. Fast Striker                                        : 0.373842   01   0   1   0.077500
182. Alltynex 2nd                                        : 0.370748   02   0   0   0.068934
183. Satazius                                            : 0.363883   01   0   1   0.074038
184. Gun Frontier                                        : 0.355687   02   1   0   0.048718
185. Murasaki Tsurugi                                    : 0.352964   01   0   0   0.092715
186. Darius II                                           : 0.352421   02   0   0   0.062564
187. Exzisus                                             : 0.348457   02   0   0   0.061186
188. Space Bomber                                        : 0.348152   01   1   1   0.053590
189. Time Pilot                                          : 0.344140   02   0   0   0.059686
190. Raiden II                                           : 0.340314   02   2   0   0.028394
191. Sengoku Ace                                         : 0.326381   02   0   0   0.053514
192. Space Manbow                                        : 0.325215   02   0   0   0.053108
193. RayStorm                                            : 0.324072   01   1   0   0.067692
194. KiKi KaiKai: Nazo no Kuro Manto / Pocky & Rocky     : 0.315171   01   0   1   0.057108
195. Flame Zapper Kotsujin                               : 0.310518   02   0   0   0.048000
196. Omega Fighter / Omega Fighter Special               : 0.308157   02   0   0   0.047179
197. Power Strike / Aleste                               : 0.307527   01   0   0   0.076923
197. Jamestown                                           : 0.307527   01   0   0   0.076923
197. Slap Fight                                          : 0.307527   01   0   0   0.076923
200. Tyrian 2000                                         : 0.306569   00   0   1   0.084081
200. Gaiares                                             : 0.306569   00   0   1   0.084081
202. Battlantis                                          : 0.304419   00   0   1   0.083333
203. Revolver360 Re:actor                                : 0.293460   01   0   0   0.072034
204. Exed Exes                                           : 0.289821   01   0   0   0.070769
204. Velocity Ultra                                      : 0.289821   01   0   0   0.070769
206. Thunder Force AC                                    : 0.289271   02   0   0   0.040615
207. Space Invaders Extreme 2                            : 0.289153   01   1   0   0.055556
208. Subterranean Animism [Touhou 11]                    : 0.288113   01   0   0   0.070175
209. Tiger Heli                                          : 0.280969   01   0   0   0.067692
209. Vector Strain                                       : 0.280969   01   0   0   0.067692
211. Hitogata Happa                                      : 0.280442   00   0   1   0.075000
212. Strikers 1945 Plus                                  : 0.270955   01   1   0   0.049231
213. Ten Desires [Touhou 13]                             : 0.268595   01   0   1   0.040920
214. Zed Blade / Operation Ragnarok                      : 0.264743   02   0   0   0.032090
215. Cotton 2                                            : 0.263407   00   0   1   0.069079
216. Raptor: Call of the Shadows                         : 0.263263   01   0   0   0.061538
217. Undeadline (MD)                                     : 0.261224   01   0   1   0.038358
218. Jets'n'Guns                                         : 0.258186   00   0   1   0.067265
219. Bio-Hazard Battle                                   : 0.256244   01   1   0   0.044118
220. BlaZeon                                             : 0.255452   01   0   0   0.058824
221. Geometry Wars 2                                     : 0.254410   01   0   0   0.058462
221. Cotton: Fantastic Night Dreams                      : 0.254410   01   0   0   0.058462
221. Syder Arcade                                        : 0.254410   01   0   0   0.058462
221. 1943 Kai                                            : 0.254410   01   0   0   0.058462
225. Battle Traverse                                     : 0.254379   02   0   0   0.028488
226. Chaos Field                                         : 0.250864   01   0   0   0.057229
227. U.N. Squadron / Area 88 (SNES)                      : 0.248860   01   1   0   0.041551
228. Juno First                                          : 0.245557   01   0   0   0.055385
229. Gratia - Second Earth                               : 0.244695   01   0   0   0.055085
230. Psyvariar 2                                         : 0.244397   01   1   0   0.040000
231. Ordyne                                              : 0.243236   02   0   0   0.024615
232. Jikkyo Oshaberi Parodius (PSX/SAT)                  : 0.242140   01   1   0   0.039216
233. Xevious Arrangement                                 : 0.241729   01   0   0   0.054054
234. Dangerous Seed                                      : 0.239656   01   0   0   0.053333
235. Ginga Force                                         : 0.238639   01   0   0   0.052980
236. Impossible Spell Card [Touhou 14.3]                 : 0.237285   00   0   1   0.060000
237. The Guardian Legend                                 : 0.236705   01   0   0   0.052308
237. Master of Weapon                                    : 0.236705   01   0   0   0.052308
239. Phoenix                                             : 0.234383   02   0   0   0.021538
240. Twinkle Tale                                        : 0.233634   00   1   1   0.043750
241. Sky Adventure                                       : 0.232503   01   0   0   0.050847
242. Tempest                                             : 0.227852   01   0   0   0.049231
243. Thunder Cross                                       : 0.227463   01   0   0   0.049096
244. Söldner-X: Himmelsstürmer                           : 0.218999   01   0   0   0.046154
245. Gemini Wing                                         : 0.214612   02   0   0   0.014667
246. Momoiro Underground                                 : 0.214081   01   0   0   0.044444
247. Infinos Gaiden                                      : 0.213141   01   0   0   0.044118
247. Z-Out                                               : 0.213141   01   0   0   0.044118
249. Defender                                            : 0.210146   01   0   0   0.043077
250. Ai Cho Aniki                                        : 0.209804   00   0   1   0.050448
251. Super Spacefortress Macross                         : 0.208121   01   0   0   0.042373
252. Wing Force                                          : 0.206505   02   0   0   0.011849
253. Phelios                                             : 0.201293   01   0   0   0.040000
253. Revolution Ace                                      : 0.201293   01   0   0   0.040000
253. Cosmo Gang: The Video                               : 0.201293   01   0   0   0.040000
253. 1941: Counter Attack                                : 0.201293   01   0   0   0.040000
257. Thunder Cross II                                    : 0.199037   01   0   0   0.039216
258. Bermuda Triangle                                    : 0.194127   00   0   1   0.045000
259. Akkanvader / Space Invaders '95                     : 0.192441   01   0   0   0.036923
259. Stinger (ARC)                                       : 0.192441   01   0   0   0.036923
259. Danmaku Unlimited 2                                 : 0.192441   01   0   0   0.036923
259. FixEight                                            : 0.192441   01   0   0   0.036923
263. Gradius Galaxies                                    : 0.192208   01   0   0   0.036842
264. Tatsujin Oh / Truxton II                            : 0.191857   01   1   0   0.021739
265. eXceed 3rd - Jade Penetrate Black Package           : 0.187160   01   0   0   0.035088
265. Leiria ~Stargazer~                                  : 0.187160   01   0   0   0.035088
265. Zen-Ichi                                            : 0.187160   01   0   0   0.035088
268. P-47 Aces                                           : 0.186854   01   1   0   0.020000
269. BioMetal                                            : 0.185725   01   1   0   0.019608
270. Beamrider                                           : 0.184933   01   0   0   0.034314
271. Turbo Force                                         : 0.183588   01   0   0   0.033846
272. RayCrisis                                           : 0.175345   01   1   0   0.016000
273. Radirgy Noa                                         : 0.174735   01   0   0   0.030769
273. UFO Robo Dangar                                     : 0.174735   01   0   0   0.030769
273. Gekirindan                                          : 0.174735   01   0   0   0.030769
276. Andro Dunos                                         : 0.171546   01   0   0   0.029661
276. Kingdom Grandprix / Shippu Mahou Daisakusen         : 0.171546   01   0   0   0.029661
278. Sonic Wings Special                                 : 0.170829   01   0   0   0.029412
279. Ghost Blade / HD                                    : 0.165882   01   0   0   0.027692
279. Prehistoric Isle 2                                  : 0.165882   01   0   0   0.027692
281. Omega Five                                          : 0.164202   01   0   0   0.027108
282. Rapid Hero                                          : 0.162931   01   0   0   0.026667
282. Mad Shark                                           : 0.162931   01   0   0   0.026667
282. Blade Buster                                        : 0.162931   01   0   0   0.026667
285. Gradius Rebirth                                     : 0.161421   00   0   1   0.033632
285. Super R-Type                                        : 0.161421   00   0   1   0.033632
287. Gigandes                                            : 0.160552   01   0   0   0.025840
288. Mystic Square [Touhou 5]                            : 0.159355   01   0   0   0.025424
289. Gleylancer                                          : 0.157029   01   0   0   0.024615
290. Gynoug                                              : 0.156726   01   0   0   0.024510
291. Elemental Master                                    : 0.155869   01   1   0   0.009231
291. XII Stag / XIIZeal                                  : 0.155869   01   1   0   0.009231
293. Donkey Kong 3                                       : 0.150916   00   1   1   0.015000
294. Dimahoo / Great Mahou Daisakusen                    : 0.150862   01   0   0   0.022472
295. Guxt                                                : 0.147164   01   0   0   0.021186
296. Assault                                             : 0.144576   00   0   1   0.027778
297. Valtric                                             : 0.142622   01   0   0   0.019608
298. Blazing Lazers / Gunhed                             : 0.139488   01   0   0   0.018519
299. Bullet Hell Monday                                  : 0.139324   01   0   0   0.018462
299. Eliminate Down                                      : 0.139324   01   0   0   0.018462
299. Steredenn                                           : 0.139324   01   0   0   0.018462
299. Salamander / Life Force (NES)                       : 0.139324   01   0   0   0.018462
303. Akashicverse                                        : 0.136683   01   0   0   0.017544
303. Valhellio                                           : 0.136683   01   0   0   0.017544
303. XOP Black                                           : 0.136683   01   0   0   0.017544
306. Cardinal Sins                                       : 0.132242   01   0   0   0.016000
307. Zaxxon                                              : 0.130471   01   0   0   0.015385
308. Pop'n TwinBee                                       : 0.126057   01   0   0   0.013850
308. Super Stardust Delta                                : 0.126057   01   0   0   0.013850
310. Darius / Darius Extra                               : 0.124569   01   0   0   0.013333
310. Nostradamus                                         : 0.124569   01   0   0   0.013333
312. Assault Android Cactus                              : 0.124315   01   0   0   0.013245
313. Subterrania                                         : 0.120872   01   0   0   0.012048
314. Fire Lancer                                         : 0.114231   01   0   0   0.009740
315. Double Wings                                        : 0.112765   01   0   0   0.009231
315. Viewpoint                                           : 0.112765   01   0   0   0.009231
317. Star Parodier                                       : 0.112608   00   0   1   0.016667
318. Blue Wish Resurrection                              : 0.111010   01   0   0   0.008621
319. ring^-27                                            : 0.109224   01   0   0   0.008000
319. Ketsui Death Label                                  : 0.109224   01   0   0   0.008000
319. Star Soldier (GC)                                   : 0.109224   01   0   0   0.008000
319. Star Force                                          : 0.109224   01   0   0   0.008000
319. Graze Counter                                       : 0.109224   01   0   0   0.008000
319. Bangai-O Spirits                                    : 0.109224   01   0   0   0.008000
325. Time Pilot '84                                      : 0.103913   01   0   0   0.006154
325. A-Jax / Typhoon                                     : 0.103913   01   0   0   0.006154
327. Silpheed (SCD)                                      : 0.103539   01   0   0   0.006024
328. Giga Wing Generations                               : 0.103032   01   0   0   0.005848
328. Titanion                                            : 0.103032   01   0   0   0.005848
330. Otomedius G                                         : 0.101759   01   0   0   0.005405
331. Gallop - Armed Police Unit                          : 0.101350   01   0   0   0.005263
331. Bangai-O                                            : 0.101350   01   0   0   0.005263
333. Battle Squadron                                     : 0.095060   01   0   0   0.003077
333. 1943: The Battle of Midway                          : 0.095060   01   0   0   0.003077
333. Air Buster                                          : 0.095060   01   0   0   0.003077
336. Sine Mora                                           : 0.094177   01   0   0   0.002770
337. Last Resort                                         : 0.086234   00   0   1   0.007500
338. RefRain: Prism Memories                             : 0.043103   00   1   0   0.000000
338. Shoot 1Up                                           : 0.043103   00   1   0   0.000000
338. Gundemonium Recollection                            : 0.043103   00   1   0   0.000000
338. Aero Chimera                                        : 0.043103   00   1   0   0.000000
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Radirgy getting in the HM is cool and pretty much unexpected. So is TD2 staying in the Top. I do hope it's because people start to realize they are cool games rather than because voter count was low or something. :mrgreen:
Also, congrats to eebrozgi and Ebbo for ZeroRanger! It's well deserved. While I wouldn't be surprised if its rank in the next years ends up being a bit lower as the initial enjoyment and novelty stabilizes, it's a very solid game and I don't doubt it'll still be on many people's lists.

And thanks Nifty for the full list!
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Curious to know what the rationale for combining Gradius II (Arc/NES) in the same vote but not doing it for Gradius III (Arcade/SNES)? Both ports are quite a bit different from the original. Did anyone actually vote for Gradius II NES?

Other than that I'm really happy to see Ketsui finally get a first place finish after so long.
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Favorite thing about the list: R-Type in top ten!
What I dislike most: no Shiki II

Thanks, Nifty! Really interesting results.
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pegboy wrote:Curious to know what the rationale for combining Gradius II (Arc/NES) in the same vote but not doing it for Gradius III (Arcade/SNES)? Both ports are quite a bit different from the original. Did anyone actually vote for Gradius II NES?
I voted for Gradius II NES (and also for Gradius NES). In both cases, I'm fine with lumping them in with other versions though. But then, I'd also be fine with lumping Gradius III ARC with SNES, Salamander ARC with NES, and Thunder Force III with AC.

The full results are quite fascinating, thanks for preparing them Nifty. I see someone voted for Last Resort! Gee, I kind of forgot about that game for awhile, but if I was making my list today it might find its way on to it....
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RIP Ibara.
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why is R-type delta so high?

i love it but kinda easy. use r13 and everything ded
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Strikers1945guy wrote:RIP Ibara.
Yeah, that's the last Cave game I'd want to see fall off the list. At least it's among the honorable mentions.
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uchuukeibitaisdf wrote:a little bummed Gradius V outranked Gradius Gaiden, but i havent given V enough of a chance to really know for sure. Gaiden is still super underrated though IMO
Placing 16th is super underrated? I think that's a fantastic result for an H-scroller of that vintage.
davidwhangchoi wrote:why is R-type delta so high?

i love it but kinda easy. use r13 and everything ded
Because it's excellent! And I definitely wouldn't describe it as an easy game (though I typically use the R-9, not the R-13).
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Strikers1945guy wrote:RIP Ibara.
Yeah, that's the last Cave game I'd want to see fall off the list. At least it's among the honorable mentions.
Oh, I don't know. Ibara's in that weird place where I'm constantly reminded of Bakraid and Garegga while playing it, but I think both of those are much superior. Actually, Bakraid's low placing (62nd) surprises me: I've always thought it plays very well -- better than Garegga -- though the A&V is admittedly not as distinctive. Anyway, I like Bakraid.
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Even with the R13, R-Type Delta it's still no joke, there are segments which you have to know what to do and when to use the super attack/bomb or you end up being swamped by enemies (underwater part of the second stage comes to mind).
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Bydobasher wrote:
davidwhangchoi wrote:why is R-type delta so high?

i love it but kinda easy. use r13 and everything ded
Because it's excellent! And I definitely wouldn't describe it as an easy game (though I typically use the R-9, not the R-13).
yeah with the R-9 it's harder.
donluca wrote:Even with the R13, R-Type Delta it's still no joke, there are segments which you have to know what to do and when to use the super attack/bomb or you end up being swamped by enemies (underwater part of the second stage comes to mind).

i still play mine from time to time,
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r-type's usually relies on alot of memorization. but delta is a bit light on memory. i think it's one of the easier ones in the series to master. i think i beat alot of the stages the first time through.
on the other hand, r-type III is just memory, and barely any instinctual skill involved. (i didn't like III, like delta much better)

glad r-type 1 is up there... really love it to death. i always take out the near impossibly accessible rail guns on top of the stage three battleship. that's always a fun challenge.
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I was surprised to see Crimzon Clover so high. Don't get me wrong, it's an awesome game, and as I've been focusing on it for the month of March, I'm finding that I like it a lot. I guess it's just that it's a new enough game to where I wouldn't expect to see it on the list in the top 5.
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davidwhangchoi wrote: glad r-type 1 is up there... really love it to death. i always take out the near impossibly accessible rail guns on top of the stage three battleship. that's always a fun challenge.
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louisg wrote:
davidwhangchoi wrote: glad r-type 1 is up there... really love it to death. i always take out the near impossibly accessible rail guns on top of the stage three battleship. that's always a fun challenge.
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