Xyga wrote:For instance I quote you there;I (along with like probably 99% of retro gamers) only really care about playing a game the same way it played originally
Playing these old games they way they originally played is a good thing, but people have this idea that "don't speak ill of the dead" somehow also applies to home consoles. As though nobody is allowed to acknowledge these systems had tons of bugs and compromises. If there's a way to play these games but improve the experience by using modern technology to eliminate the problems then I'm all for that. If you want to go to a renaissance festival and wipe your ass with a dried corn cob because "they didn't have toilet paper back then it's not accurate" then you're welcome to do so, but I am more than happy to experience the good parts without the bad. Again, there's no legitimate reason that shit like input lag should ever be desirable and you will never convince me otherwise.komatik wrote:I care that the resulting colored dots on my screen and vibrations from my speaker cones are the same as what the original hardware would have done (or better).
Yeah I based that statement on the last-modified dates from buildbot. Last time I checked a week ago when I was trying to figure this all out the MAME2015 and vanilla MAME cores were dated from 2016 so I assumed work had stalled then and didn't really look into it any further. I guess it was just a transient bug.tomwhite2004 wrote:The MAME core is up to date in Retroarch, the numbered versions are only there to serve people with less capable hardware.
No that's fine, apology accepted. I've certainly had my fair share of dealing with those people who Just™ Don't™ Care™ when it comes to accuracy and it can certainly be frustrating.WelshMegalodon wrote:You'l have to excuse me if I ended up countering a related, but not identical, stance since it isn't always clear where one ends and the other begins.
Arrrrggghhh.....WelshMegalodon wrote:it's very much a deliberate decision on their part.
Libretro is NOT RetroArch. I know it was Xyga who wrote it not you but RetroArch does not have "toxic retardation" just because the MAME and Libretro crowds have a feud going on. It is not RetroArch's fault, and RetroArch did not (AFAIK) make any decisions that caused this. I'd have lot more sympathy for the MAME crowd if you stopped acting like these two sister projects are a single uniform entity and stopped blaming the wrong people for things.
RetroArch has a lot of problems; it's buggy and unstable, its interface was designed by a lobotomized monkey, and it takes at least a day to work out the configuration quirks on a new system; but bad MAME cores isn't one of them.
IT ISXyga wrote:IMHO RA should have stayed a frontend
(at least, if you don't limit the concept of frontend to just a rom selector slideshow)