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Who is your preferred pokémon?
Joe Biden 6%  6%  [ 3 ]
Andrew Yang 2%  2%  [ 1 ]
Kamala Harris 4%  4%  [ 2 ]
Elizabeth Warren / Tulsi Gabbard 4%  4%  [ 2 ]
Hollywood Celebrity 8%  8%  [ 4 ]
Deval Patrick / Julian Castro / Robert O'Rourke / Cory Booker / Peter Buttigieg 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Donald Trump 35%  35%  [ 17 ]
Mike Gravel 2%  2%  [ 1 ]
Bernard Sanders 37%  37%  [ 18 ]
Hillary Clinton / Michael Bloomberg / Mark Zuckerberg / Chelsea Clinton / Kirsten Gillibrand 2%  2%  [ 1 ]
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 Post subject: Re: 2020 Democratic Presidential Primary
PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 12:06 am 


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They actually do.

There's only so many desirable apartments/houses; not as many as there are people (and even if you built "nice" houses so that there was one for every person, the ones in "rich areas" would still be more desirable, just because of who your neighbors would be). They have to be rationed out somehow, and "give the best ones to the people who society has decided creates the most value" seems like the best way of doing it.


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 Post subject: Re: 2020 Democratic Presidential Primary
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They actually do.

There's only so many desirable apartments/houses; not as many as there are people (and even if you built "nice" houses so that there was one for every person, the ones in "rich areas" would still be more desirable, just because of who your neighbors would be). They have to be rationed out somehow, and "give the best ones to the people who society has decided creates the most value" seems like the best way of doing it.


Value-creators like this guy!
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 Post subject: Re: 2020 Democratic Presidential Primary
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I've never heard of that dude before, but he's apparently created a fashion line that people want to buy. That it's not to your taste is irrelevant. What have you created today that people want enough that they're willing to spend money on it? Bitching about rich people on the internet doesn't count as "creating something that people want", btw.


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 Post subject: Re: 2020 Democratic Presidential Primary
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Value-creators likethis guy!


Or this one, maybe this guy or perhaps this gentleman here.

Society has also apparently decided that, as long as you've helped to create as much value as these guys did (and they are absolute pros in that regard), you're never going to be trialed for war crimes.
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 Post subject: Re: 2020 Democratic Presidential Primary
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I've never heard of that dude before, but he's apparently created a fashion line that people want to buy. That it's not to your taste is irrelevant.


No one wants his shirts except him. He just has an ultra wealthy family so he gets to be a layabout fuck boy and get paid for it. All hail nepotism.


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 Post subject: Re: 2020 Democratic Presidential Primary
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He's the nephew of billionaires Charles and David Koch aka. The Koch Brothers, the single greatest political obstacle to averting the coming climate catastrophe.

And he released this ad the same week the Trump tax plan passed, including a hefty cut to the estate tax.

This is the anointed superhuman for whose benefit the world must burn, and the crayon drawings he uses to design his hideous Toejam-and-Earl-elevator-background Hawaiian shirts.
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 Post subject: Re: 2020 Democratic Presidential Primary
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You know who likes Toejam and Earl? Macaulay Culkin.

Makes you think.

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Humans don't HAVE to fuck other humans over.


They do if the system is designed that way. Bitcoins aside, once demand is met the only way to increase revenue is through fuckery. Anyone who has played Cookie Clicker understands this frustration of plateauing immensely, and it makes perfect sense that after conquering the marketplace the only way left to make the numbers go up faster is scams, grift, and the theft of other nation's capital.

In theory democracy could be leveraged to alleviate all this, but at least during the age of Television that, too, had been conquered completely.

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They do if the system is designed that way.


Because we're not retarded babies that believe in magic and fairy tales, we also understand that guys like Robert Kotick aren't paid zillions of dollars because they're just that special. It's not for Robert's sake he's paid that much, but for the people just below him and so on it goes down the chain of management. It's the same reason politicians and daytime talkshow hosts+their nighttime equivalent the news actor get paid bribes - it's necessary to buy loyalty to protect the system.

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but he's apparently created a fashion line that people want to buy.


hehee haha ah...


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 Post subject: Re: 2020 Democratic Presidential Primary
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like how we all know Rob is having $3.40 stolen out of his wallet every single day by Republicans screwing over the program.

You do not know what you are talking about.


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 Post subject: Re: 2020 Democratic Presidential Primary
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For some more detail - Bill Walker, the governor who came up with the halving plan, is an independent. This is not a defense of Republicans or a critique of Bill Walker's plan. There is a multi-billion dollar budget deficit in Alaska. People want a lot of social services, but don't want to or can't pay for them, and they want "free money".

The Bernie idolizer thing seems to be seeing something that has half-functioned in a very unique set of circumstances ("socialism" in small, ethnically and religiously homogeneous north European countries) and thinking it can be scaled up 1000 times in places that do not share those features. What has half-functioned for a huge state with a lot of natural resources and not a lot of people would not work for a place like New York. Surely you must understand this? And we're only talking about $1000-$2000 a year, in a place where the dollar does not go as far as it does in Oklahoma - a good portion smoke it or drink it in less than a month.

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Or this one, maybe this guy or perhaps this gentleman here.

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Somewhat amusing exchange between Abrams and Ilhan Omar for anyone who hasn't seen it. This is America.


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 Post subject: Re: 2020 Democratic Presidential Primary
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 Post subject: Re: 2020 Democratic Presidential Primary
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Once again, terminal goals differ. Some people worry about their kids. Others are willing to be wallet cucks if it means we kill, rape and enslave Venezuela.


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 Post subject: Re: 2020 Democratic Presidential Primary
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"Would you support an armed faction within Venezuela that engages in war crimes, crimes against humanity or genocide if you believed they were serving US interests, as you did in Guatemala, El Salvador and Nicaragua?"

It's almost poetic justice that it took a woman of color, a Somalian migrant displaced because of war, to have the courage and integrity to speak truth to that ghoul, and it's no surprise that she, better than anyone else, knows what kind of horrors those people in Central America had to endure during the 80s and whose echos of violence and oppression are still strongly felt today.

She's a rare sight for a politician, especially one threading through empire's waters.

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Once again, terminal goals differ. Some people worry about their kids. Others are willing to be wallet cucks if it means we kill, rape and enslave Venezuela.


Except that this time things will be different and Godzilla is actually going to fix things and change them for the better.
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 Post subject: Re: 2020 Democratic Presidential Primary
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"Would you support an armed faction within Venezuela that engages in war crimes, crimes against humanity or genocide if you believed they were serving US interests, as you did in Guatemala, El Salvador and Nicaragua?"

Why wouldn't we? We don't owe shit to Venezuelans; whatever foreign policy best serves us is the best foreign policy.


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 Post subject: Re: 2020 Democratic Presidential Primary
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(not speaking about venezuela but about what was being discussed earlier)
What's wrong with going into business again? why be mad at entrepreneuriat?


It's a good way to stop being a "wagecuck" as Bryan says, and to ensure you provide well for your family.

I have a couple friends who did, and they were't privileged, they were damn middleclass. They just had a lazer-focus since their teen years and kept at it, were well advised, made lots of sacrifices, took huge risks and worked their tail off

One opened a Land Surveyor office here. She recognized that with one of the 2 current offices in our county being 5 years away from closing, there was gonna be room for another to thrive. She did her (pretty short) uni class to become Land Surveyor herself and borrowed money to start her office. Now she's making very good money, more than a salary man evr could. As soon as she could afford it, she invested in real estate (another way to not being a wagecuck). Bought one very small and run-down apartment building, renovated it and is now renting it. in a couple years she will probs have enough capital to acquire another one. sooner than latter. super nice chick and she gives back to the community by coaching local girl Vollyeball school teams(she's not paid for this) and giving free courses and lectures on business acumen

Another is an Early Childhood Educator. he soon saw that there was place for another ECE home. Build his pitch and applied for a loan and got it. He happens to be excellent in the field and really progressive : insists on feeding the little ones super healthy, high-quality food, schedules them extremely balanced days (makes them move with fun physical games and trips, do arts & craft, and a bit of teaching (both about "being a decent human being" and intro to school curriculum) all of that every single day), has an eye on each child every single minute of the day(very rare in ECEs actually) and has a nice way with kids and is just a natural that happens to have a great vision and philosophy for child education(he's kind of a phenom in his field). Now he has opened a second ECE home because the demand for his awesome services was so big. He is now on his way to become very well off in life. again, probs more than any salaryman. He now employs 30 Early Child Educators.

Now did the business ventures of my 2 friends turned them into evil creatures?
I believe it didn't. And yet they both try pretty aggressively(and succesfully) to generate more money. Even if they hadn't done all that nice stuff, they still wouldn't be evil for seizing the opportunity to make a good living. and not wanting to be a wagecuck

Being a businesswowan or a businessman doesn't inherantly make one evil.


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 Post subject: Re: 2020 Democratic Presidential Primary
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Huh? Who said starting a business is evil? When people talk about the depredations of global megacorps they aren't saying the corporate charter is to blame.

BryanM was talking about how Republicans are directly harming Rob, and how Rob's continued support despite that is the political equivalent of cuckoldry.

Also, drawing direct parallels between tiny startups and Amazon or Microsoft is almost as nuts as drawing parallels between family debt and government debt.
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I dunno, I get a "kill the landlord" vibe here sometimes. maybe I'm misinterpreting (hopefully I am)


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 Post subject: Re: 2020 Democratic Presidential Primary
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BryanM was talking about how Republicans are directly harming Rob, and how Rob's continued support despite that is the political equivalent of cuckoldry.

Do you ever pay attention? Again, it wasn't a Republican. The current governor (Republican) reversed course. Regardless, I don't like or support the Republican Party. And I would not describe a reduced payout of unearned money as "harm". The PFD is not a necessity. Having a local government that is properly funded is closer to a necessity.

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I dunno, I get a "kill the landlord" vibe here sometimes. maybe I'm misinterpreting (hopefully I am)

No, you are reading it right.


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 Post subject: Re: 2020 Democratic Presidential Primary
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Why wouldn't we? We don't owe shit to Venezuelans; whatever foreign policy best serves us is the best foreign policy.


Sure am up to my ass in all this awesome Iraq money. Sure paid off for "us", didn't it.


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 Post subject: Re: 2020 Democratic Presidential Primary
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Being a businesswowan or a businessman doesn't inherantly make one evil.

No, but it does, especially in times like these when management absolutely dominates labor in terms of both wealth and power, make it much, much easier to either do good (as the folks you mentioned apparently did), or, as so many others, especially in the higher echelons have done, do a great deal of very far-reaching harm to a huge mass of people.

Honestly, though, methinks the more relevant part of what you mentioned is this:
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They just had a lazer-focus since their teen years and kept at it, were well advised, made lots of sacrifices, took huge risks and worked their tail off

If memory serves (someone correct me if I'm wrong), somewhere around 90 percent of all new businesses in the US fail within five years. A significant part of this, I think it's safe to say, can be blamed on the increasing consolidation and monopolization of so many industries, which make it much harder for anyone new to break in (and, one should note, the "pro-business" folks who supposedly care so much about small family-owned ventures would rather drink battery acid than address), but just as importantly, look again at your summation above.

In your own words, the people you used as examples were not only able to focus largely on a single venture for years on end and had enough resources to their name to make sacrifices and take risks in the meantime, but were also very highly talented in their fields, had access to competent advisement in this area, and had an opportunity in that specific area come their way in their neck of the woods and had the wherewithal to pounce before it was gone. How many people who would like to be in a position to achieve even the fairly modest success they achieved do you think actually have all of those things, or even some of them, at their disposal at any given time?

But hey, I'm in a good mood - let's assume that a whole lot of ambitious and capable people do have the means to "follow their dream" to a similar extent. Now, the question becomes "how many areas of business that people would like to enter even have room to come close to accommodating them all, or even a significant number of them, especially when the commercial situation changes as quickly as it does nowadays and entire economic sectors are upended seemingly overnight?" In short: no matter what the circumstances, a lot of people, even "deserving" ones, aren't going to be able to go into business for themselves, and will have to work for someone else - who, as it happens, will almost certainly need subordinates to keep their businesses running. So do we just dismiss the latter en masse as second-class citizens (and/or parasites) and leave them to the mercy of the most ruthless and amoral "wealth creators" out there (after all, if you're not the one treating your employees, the environment, etc. the absolute worst to maximize your bottom line, you're not being sufficiently competitive, and the shareholders won't stand for that), or do we acknowledge that most (not all, but most) folks are just doing what they can with what they've got, and shouldn't be made to feel like they're being punished for that?

In short: no, going into business doesn't make you evil, but at the same time it also doesn't make you worthy of the fawning deification you're inclined to get nowadays (look back a few pages in this topic and you'll see the folks who scream bloody murder about illegal immigration indignantly refusing to endorse focusing anti-immigration efforts on the business owners [including, if I may remind everyone, our current President] who illegally hire them and give them the vast majority of their incentive to bother immigrating in the first place, because I guess that's Stalinist or some shit), nor does it reduce everyone else to a lazy, stupid "wage cuck".
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 Post subject: Re: 2020 Democratic Presidential Primary
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folks who scream bloody murder about illegal immigration indignantly refusing to endorse focusing anti-immigration efforts on the business owners

Always so melodramatic ("scream bloody murder"?). The thing that was "indignantly" not endorsed was the concern troll focus on one end-of-the-line item (that wouldn't even cover those who are not coming here to work - or would you like to see birthright citizenship abolished as well?) to the exclusion of any other proactive measure that should be taken. You know, a comprehensive strategy, which would include a wall. No one who is genuinely concerned about curbing illegal immigration opposes further (Waste Management to Forfeit $5.5 Million for Hiring Illegal Aliens) enforcement of existing laws.


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Sure am up to my ass in all this awesome Iraq money. Sure paid off for "us", didn't it.

That wasn't "foreign policy that served us the best"; that was "awww, those poor Iraqis, let's replace their brutal dictator with a democracy, nevermind that the ruling party will work against our interests at every turn".

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In your own words, the people you used as examples were not only able to focus largely on a single venture for years on end and had enough resources to their name to make sacrifices and take risks in the meantime, but were also very highly talented in their fields, had access to competent advisement in this area, and had an opportunity in that specific area come their way in their neck of the woods and had the wherewithal to pounce before it was gone. How many people who would like to be in a position to achieve even the fairly modest success they achieved do you think actually have all of those things, or even some of them, at their disposal at any given time?

People who are more capable have better outcomes -- where is the problem?

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I swear, it's like you've never even heard of regulatory capture. Government regulation makes it harder for small businesses to compete.


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^lol, but Venezuela is different.

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 Post subject: Re: 2020 Democratic Presidential Primary
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I'm pretty sure James O'Keefe is still laughing his ass off since you, unable to stave off your desire for substantive debate any longer, chided Bernie for not being more skeptical of Jussie Smollett (off to the side I'd also love to hear what you and the rest of the alt-lite gang on here might have had to say if Obama or Hillary had declared a "national emergency" while openly admitting they were only doing it to subvert Congressional oversight of their agenda), but what the hell, it's been awhile since I fed you last. :lol:

First off, feel free to find the post where anyone said that punishing employees who hire illegals should be the only thing we do on immigration.

Second, if there's anyone whose "approach" to immigration is ludicrously one-note, it's the completely genuine nationalist zealot on the issue that you've apparently chosen to rally behind: you've called the wall "a start", but I can fucking guarantee you that it will be the first, last, and only thing on the current administration's agenda in this area, due to its libtard-owning potential and absolutely nothing else. In case you hadn't noticed (I strongly suspect you have, and just don't actually care), the link you posted is very much the exception: pull up as many articles as you can find about an ICE raid where x amount of illegals were hauled off, and almost every single one will include a one-sentence throwaway paragraph about how "no action was taken against the employer". And that's just one portion, albeit a much larger one than you'll ever admit, of the "comprehensive" immigration reform that everyone (except the traitors who want to sneak millions of illegals in to somehow vote :lol:) supposedly wants; aside from cutting off the overwhelming stream of overseas Muslims who also happen to be a national security threat, nothing of significance has been done, and nothing else will be done, full stop.

Third, to expand on something I said earlier: where in heaven's name do you get off calling illegal employment an "end-of-the-line item?" Just what percentage of people do you think sneak in (or attempt to gain asylum, which is what the nativists told them they should do until the caravan showed up and the goalposts were inevitably moved again) to deal drugs or drop an anchor baby (or plot to retake the Southwest for Mexico :lol:) as opposed to look for a job, and do you have anything resembling hard data to back that assertion up? Off the top of my head out-and-out "birth tourism" to the USA is actually most popular in Asia (again, someone correct me if I'm wrong), so are the folks who so many like to hold up as the "so what's your people's excuse" idol suddenly out of sorts or what? In case it matters, my personal thoughts on birthright citizenship are mixed, but there's no way that any significant portion of the border crossings, especially compared to those seeking (and, thanks to your fellow flag-waving capitalists, consistently finding) employment, are motivated by people hoping that a kid will apply to have them brought over in 20 years.

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People who are more capable have better outcomes -- where is the problem?

Not a problem in and of itself (though it would be nice if the role of circumstances beyond one's direct control was also acknowledged), but the issue is the degree of difference in outcomes - back when the top tax rate was 90 percent and unions were stronger the "innovators" and "value creators" still lived head and shoulders above the working stiffs but didn't rule as unaccountable, infallible gods and kings as they do now, while the latter were both much more realistically able to earn a modest living and not demonized as lazy, undeserving "takers" day in and day out. These days, of course, that's Commie talk.

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I swear, it's like you've never even heard of regulatory capture.

...which happens when the government is overly deferential to corporate interests, so the obvious solution is to...be even more deferential to corporate interests, I guess? :lol: What could possibly go wrong? Unless you want to tell me you believe that big business actually wants fair competition and the big bad government just won't let them have it, which is almost as ludicrous as:

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That wasn't "foreign policy that served us the best"; that was "awww, those poor Iraqis, let's replace their brutal dictator with a democracy, nevermind that the ruling party will work against our interests at every turn".

There's no fucking way you actually believe that any of the Iraq War's architects had that thought cross their mind for even a second. There's just no fucking way. :lol: Troll harder.
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The Cohen testimony made me think of this.
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Third, to expand on something I said earlier: where in heaven's name do you get off calling illegal employment an "end-of-the-line item?" Just what percentage of people do you think sneak in (or attempt to gain asylum, which is what the nativists told them they should do until the caravan showed up and the goalposts were inevitably moved again) to deal drugs or drop an anchor baby (or plot to retake the Southwest for Mexico :lol:) as opposed to look for a job, and do you have anything resembling hard data to back that assertion up?


Dammit, BM. Who let you in on the steps of our plan to establish the Republica De Aztlan? Now I'll have to sic some of the thousands of MS-13 members that cross the border every day (thanks to the lack of a wall, of course) on you.
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It is kind of funny how much incentive Trump has to win re-election. The people who think he'll step down are delusional - he'd go to jail and the republican ticket would tank irrevocably. The margin in Texas is already extremely low single digits - cutting the hearts out of their only base is not something their team wants to do.

Also is hilarious how "he can just pardon himself" wasn't a joke at the time, nor is it one now. It's descriptive commentary.

It's all around been a good circus. Thank you, Trump.

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People are never honest about how they just get off to death and chaos - from a safe distance.


Yeah, the death cultists don't care about money or even the racial stuff, it's all just a pretense. 'tis why it's a waste of time engaging with something that isn't a terminal value. Some of us fundamentally don't require blood offerings to Khorne.

Elizabeth Warren is a professional at amplifying their gooey syrup though. I'd have never known about her racist urn otherwise.

Too bad about Venezuela having its currency destroyed in the finance war, though.


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Elizabeth Warren is a professional at amplifying their gooey syrup though. I'd have never known about her racist urn otherwise.


Don't go all Jimmy Dore on me, dude, that's a chud hoax.

Liz Warren is still the #2 best candidate in this race and God forbid anything happens to Bernie she'd be our only hope. If anyone needs to be your target right now, it's Beto.
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Here's some hope for life cultists: when not forced to choose from a list and give an open ended response, Sanders polls better.

Hopefully the enthusiasm gap will ensure he can get the 50%+1 delegates he needs to not get screwed.

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Don't go all Jimmy Dore on me


It makes me sad when you miss my farcical snark or my previous posts that provide context, more than the Dore animosity phase does.

You probably missed when I posted the link to the "facts" page on her campaign's website? Full of the typical lanyard "pinocchios"-esque graphics that probably cost far too much to make. (They do a lot of A/B and focus group testing on everything.)

I'm am literal and not joking when I say I never would have heard about this particular niche wingnut bullshit in a thousand lifetimes if I did not visit her webpage. She's uniquely capable of losing by this repeated strategy of engaging bullshit as if its worth her limited message bandwidth.

The only people who "care" about the bullshit (they do not really care about it beyond it's use to push people out of caring about politics), are lost and unreachable any way.

Every media message has to be fashioned with the knowledge this will be the first and only time that someone out there will listen. I dread watching a political campaign that's heavily about "lies republicans tell about me - Elizabeth Warren, most important person on earth." If she's not screaming that she's for Medicare for All constantly (or even unable to lie about supporting it), what are average schmucks with actual lives going to remember?

(I was able to find one sentence that mentioned Medicare in brief passing on her website. It's not the same as the eight sentences and two photographs spent on the urn (though I'm unable to tell which urn is supposed to be "racist" - there is no centralized object of focus in the photos. It could be all four of the urns for all I know. (And see, I'm fucking talking about urns now because of her staff. Boo urns!)), but it's a start I guess? ... it reminds me of those laundry lists of "things we're not going to do anything about" presidents always give at the State of the Union. ... which, I guess does make her presidential material. Point taken...)


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 Post subject: Re: 2020 Democratic Presidential Primary
PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2019 5:52 pm 


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I'm sorry, sarcasm doesn't always carry over the interwebs and all my 2016 neuroses have come back with a vengeance.

Also I agree that Warren is her own worst enemy in this campaign, which is why I'm not worried about her siphoning Bernie's support in the primary. If anything she's helping to push the overton window left, making it harder for the MSM to cast Bernie as a total moonbat. And when Bernie's president I hope she finally gets the job she's been wanting for years of heading up her CFPB.
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 Post subject: Re: 2020 Democratic Presidential Primary
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I'm pretty sure James O'Keefe is still laughing his ass off since you, unable to stave off your desire for substantive debate any longer, chided Bernie for not being more skeptical of Jussie Smollett (off to the side I'd also love to hear what you and the rest of the alt-lite gang on here might have had to say if Obama or Hillary had declared a "national emergency" while openly admitting they were only doing it to subvert Congressional oversight of their agenda), but what the hell, it's been awhile since I fed you last. :lol:

I make a to the point post and get another spiderweb of out of nowhere comments or arguments or whatever they are from bulletmagnet ("James O'Keefe"... I honestly have no idea). There is no way in hell I'm posting my long and thoughtful 8) response at the bottom of the page, so


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