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Sengoku Ace series

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Sengoku Ace: 3 lives, extend at 400,000.
Sengoku Blade: 3 lives, extend at 600,000.

To use Aine in Blade, move to the ? and press up 3 times, down 3 times, then up 7 times. To use Marion in the Saturn version of Blade, simply finish the game with everyone once (use Monkey difficulty), then press up at the ?; after unlocking Marion, using Aine only requires pressing up twice at the ?.

To unlock everything in Cannon (Tengai and Junis, Hard difficulty), go to the "Press Start Button" title screen and press left 3 times, down once, then right 9 times (Tengai will laugh if you did it right).

Here's a simple Ace 1-ALL guide, and here's the big Blade guide.
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GAME - DIFFICULTY - CHARACTER
NAME - SCORE - STAGE - PLAYER SIDE - AUTOFIRE - DETAILS
DETAILS is for what model of console and release of cart/disc, or what emulator and version. I recommend against using PAL releases.
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Jane

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1.  stuminator            - 1,611,100 - ALL - 1P - No  - PCB
2.  EmperorIng            -   912,800 - 2-3 - 1P - Yes - ShmupMAME v4.2 (Japan)
3.  Hagane                -   644,100 - 1-7 - ?? - ??  - MAME
Tengai

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1.  Third_strike          - 1,818,400 - ALL - 1P - Yes - ShmupMAME v4.2 (Japan)
2.  =SNC=                 -   984,500 - 2-3 - ?? - ??  - WolfMAME v0.135
3.  Macias                -   912,500 - 2-3 - 1P - Yes - ShmupMAME v4.2 (World)
4.  Battletoad            -   895,900 - 2-2 - 1P - Yes - Steam
5.  Ghegs                 -   774,200 - 2-1 - ?? - Yes - PS2
6.  Gwürz!                -   759,600 - 2-1 - ?? - ??  - PCB
7.  NTSC-J                -   757,100 - 2-1 - ?? - ??  - MAME
8.  Mero                  -   726,700 - 2-1 - ?? - Yes - PS2
9.  Capt. Takehiko        -   410,300 - 1-6 - ?? - Yes - PS2
Kenoumaru

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1.  Macias                -   823,900 - 2-2 - 1P - Yes - ShmupMAME v4.2 (World)
2.  saucykobold           -   751,200 - 2-1 - ?? - ??  - MAME
3.  Pasta                 -   516,400 - 1-7 - ?? - Yes - PS2
Koyori

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1.  saucykobold           - 1,464,500 - ALL - ?? - ??  - MAME
2.  SIK-07                -   785,100 - 2-1 - ?? - ??  - MAME
Aine

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1.  BOS                   - 1,618,500 - ALL - ?? - ??  - MAME (Japan)
2.  saucykobold           - 1,549,200 - ALL - ?? - ??  - MAME (Japan)
3.  Erppo                 - 1,534,400 - ALL - ?? - ??  - MAME (Japan)
4.  cream-s               - 1,518,800 - ALL - 1P - Yes - ShmupMAME v4.2 (World)
5.  Rob                   - 1,485,800 - ALL - ?? - ??  - MAME
6.  Square_Air            - 1,470,500 - ALL - 1P - Yes - ShmupMAME v4.2 (Japan)
7.  Vludi                 - 1,453,900 - ALL - 1P - No  - Mame (Japan)
8.  SynthRicardo          - 1,420,200 - ALL - 1P - Yes - MAME v0.220 (Japan set 1)
9.  chum                  - 1,413,500 - ALL - ?? - ??  - MAME (Japan)
10. CIT                   -   961,100 - 2-4 - ?? - Yes - PS2
11. andsuchisdeath        -   887,500 - 2-3 - 1P - Yes - PS2
12. =SNC=                 -   886,800 - 2-2 - ?? - ??  - WolfMAME v0.135
13. Kollision             -   872,800 - 2-3 - ?? - Yes - PS2
14. KoopaTGR              -   854,800 - 2-3 - 1P - Yes - MAME (Japan)
15. STG                   -   838,200 - 2-2 - ?? - ??  - PCB
16. Battletoad            -   818,200 - 2-1 - 1P - Yes - PS2
17. Akraten               -   809.200 - 2-1 - 1P - Yes - PCB
18. maximo                -   772,300 - 2-2 - 1P - No  - MAME (World)
19. freddiebamboo         -   746,300 - 2-1 - ?? - ??  - MAME
20. professor ganson      -   744,100 - 2-1 - ?? - ??  - PS2
21. Javel                 -   740,200 - 2-1 - ?? - ??  - MAME
22. innerpattern          -   738,300 - 2-1 - ?? - ??  - MAME
23. SPZ                   -   731,600 - 2-1 - ?? - ??  - MAME
24. Dumple                -   727,600 - 2-1 - 1P - No  - MAME v0.202
25. Ghegs                 -   725,200 - 2-1 - ?? - Yes - PS2
26. ACSeraph              -   709,400 - 2-1 - ?? - Yes - PS2
27. Edge                  -   619'700 - 1-7 - ?? - ??  - MAME
28. FIL                   -   493 900 - 1-6 - ?? - Yes - PS2
29. DocHauser             -   479,100 - 1-6 - ?? - ??  - MAME (Japan)
30. Tar-Palantir          -   471,200 - 1-6 - ?? - ??  - ???
31. RNGmaster             -   471,200 - 1-6 - ?? - ??  - MAME (World)
32. DarkMoon              -   344,500 - 1-5 - ?? - ??  - MAME
Gennai

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1.  BLO                   -   967,200 - 2-4 - 1P - Yes - MAME (World)
2.  Macias                -   797,600 - 2-1 - 1P - Yes - ShmupMAME v4.2 (World)
3.  Battletoad            -   590,600 - 1-7 - 1P - Yes - PS2
4.  Despatche             -   504,800 - 1-6 - 2P - Yes - ShmupMAME v4.2 (Japan)
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Koyori

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1.  KAL                   - 1 745 700 - ALL - 1P - Yes - ShmupMAME v4.2 (Japan)
2.  Hagane                - 1,141,000 - 2-1 - ?? - ??  - MAME (Japan)
3.  Kollision             - 1,001,500 - 2-1 - ?? - Yes - PS2
4.  coffeejoerx           -   977,200 - 2-1 - ?? - ??  - MAME
5.  ako                   -   974,900 - 2-1 - 1P - Yes - ShmupMAME v4.2 (Japan)
6.  Prickly Angler        -   955 500 - 2-1 - 1P - No  - Saturn
7.  Ruldra                -   946,900 - 2-1 - ?? - ??  - MAME
8.  Mero                  -   903,200 - 2-1 - 1P - Yes - PS4
9.  SPM                   -   887,700 - 2-1 - 1P - Yes - Switch
10. Battletoad            -   880,600 - 1-7 - 1P - Yes - PS2
11. Moskovskaya           -   509,100 - 1-5 - ?? - ??  - PCB
12. henry dark            -   496,800 - 1-5 - ?? - Yes - PS2
13. ED-057                -   485,300 - 1-5 - ?? - Yes - Saturn
14. AAP[P_HAT]            -   411.400 - 1-4 - ?? - ??  - MAME
15. Sonic R               -   404,400 - 1-4 - ?? - Yes - PS2
16. BulletMagnet          -   384,800 - 1-4 - ?? - ??  - MAME
17. Shatterhand           -   382 500 - 1-4 - ?? - Yes - Saturn
18. M.Knight              -   237,000 - 1-3 - ?? - No  - ShmupMAME v4.2
Tengai

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1.  Hagane                -   925,900 - 2-1 - ?? - ??  - MAME (Japan)
2.  Prickly Angler        -   890 100 - 2-1 - 1P - No  - Saturn
3.  SPM                   -   888,000 - 2-1 - 1P - Yes - Switch
4.  Ghegs                 -   582,000 - 1-6 - ?? - Yes - PS2
5.  Sengoku Strider       -   484,102 - 1-5 - 1P - Yes - Switch
6.  DarkMoon              -   470,700 - 1-5 - ?? - ??  - MAME
Hagane

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1.  Hagane                - 2,145,000 - 2-7 - ?? - ??  - MAME (Japan)
2.  Erppo                 -   911,300 - 2-1 - ?? - ??  - MAME (Japan)
3.  SPM                   -   887,800 - 2-1 - 1P - Yes - Switch
4.  Prickly Angler        -   887 400 - 2-1 - 1P - No  - Saturn
5.  andsuchisdeath        -   843,500 - 2-1 - 1P - Yes - Saturn
6.  Tar-Palantir          -   802,100 - 2-1 - ?? - ??  - Raine
7.  Landshark             -   480,900 - 1-5 - ?? - ??  - ???
8.  BulletMagnet          -   454,100 - 1-5 - ?? - ??  - MAME
9.  adam76                -   425,200 - 1-5 - ?? - Yes - Saturn
Shoumaru

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1.  BOS                   - 1,532,800 - ALL - ?? - ??  - MAME (World)
2.  Prickly Angler        -   885 700 - 2-1 - 1P - No  - Saturn
3.  JL                    -   868,000 - 2-1 - ?? - Yes - Saturn
4.  SPM                   -   819,700 - 2-1 - 1P - Yes - Switch
5.  CloudyMusic           -   708,200 - 1-7 - 1P - Yes - ShmupMAME v4.2 (Japan)
6.  Landshark             -   612,600 - 1-6 - ?? - ??  - ???
7.  BA2                   -   469.100 - 1-6 - ?? - Yes - Saturn
8.  DarkMoon              -   425,600 - 1-5 - ?? - ??  - MAME
9.  Ghegs                 -   424,900 - 1-5 - ?? - Yes - PS2
10. Shatterhand           -   381 800 - 1-4 - ?? - Yes - Saturn
Junis

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1.  Lyv                   - 1,807,600 - ALL - 1P - No  - ShmupMAME v4.2 (Japan)
2.  Psikyo_ball           - 1,086,300 - 2-2 - ?? - ??  - MAME
3.  Hagane                - 1,035,300 - 2-1 - ?? - ??  - MAME (Japan)
4.  Prickly Angler        -   932 100 - 2-1 - 1P - No  - Saturn
5.  SPM                   -   908,700 - 2-1 - 1P - Yes - Switch
6.  EmperorIng            -   862,600 - 2-1 - 1P - Yes - Saturn
7.  adam76                -   637,000 - 1-6 - ?? - Yes - Saturn
8.  Skykid                -   590 000 - 1-6 - ?? - ??  - PCB
9.  Shatterhand           -   514.800 - 1-6 - ?? - Yes - PS2
Aine

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1.  saucykobold           - 1,905,200 - ALL - ?? - ??  - MAME
2.  MauCast               - 1,309,800 - 2-4 - 1P - No  - ShmupMAME v4.2 (Japan)
3.  Hagane                - 1,126,500 - 2-2 - ?? - ??  - MAME (Japan)
4.  JL                    -   960,700 - 2-1 - ?? - Yes - Saturn
5.  SPM                   -   950,900 - 2-1 - 1P - Yes - Switch
6.  CRI                   -   948,300 - 2-1 - 1P - Yes - ShmupMAME v4.2 (Japan)
7.  Prales                -   945,800 - 1-7 - 1P - Yes - ShmupMAME v4.2 (Japan)
8.  Square_Air            -   909,700 - 2-1 - 1P - Yes - ShmupMAME v4.2 (Japan)
9.  Prickly Angler        -   909 500 - 2-1 - 1P - No  - Saturn
10. HAN                   -   904,500 - 2-1 - 1P - No  - PCB (World)
11. blackoak              -   873,300 - 2-1 - ?? - ??  - PCB
12. Vludi                 -   827,700 - 2-1 - 1P - No  - MAME (World)
13. Dumple                -   819,500 - 2-1 - 1P - No  - MAME v0.212 (Japan)
14. DocHauser             -   643,800 - 1-6 - ?? - ??  - MAME
15. alpha5099             -   503,600 - 1-5 - ?? - Yes - Saturn
16. PsikyoPshumpPshooterP -   496,300 - 1-5 - ?? - Yes - PS2
17. Shatterhand           -   407 000 - 1-4 - ?? - Yes - Saturn
Marion

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1.  Prickly Angler        - 1 249 300 - 2-3 - 1P - No  - Saturn
2.  BA2                   -   864.500 - 2-1 - ?? - Yes - Saturn
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Masamitsu

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1.  spongdangly           - 1,737,900 -  5  - -- - Yes - PSP
Koyori

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1.  Damacles              - 1,781,600 -  5  - -- - Yes - PSP
2.  DC906270              - 1,609,300 -  5  - -- - Yes - PSP
Mizuka

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1.  Kollision             - 4,302,200 - ALL - -- - Yes - PSP
2.  SIK-07                - 2,214,300 -  5  - -- - Yes - Emulator?
3.  CIT                   - 1 664 300 -  4  - -- - Yes - PSP
Aine

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1.  CRI                   - 1,779,200 -  5  - -- - Yes - PSP
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Re: Sengoku Ace series

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Sengoku Ace - Normal difficulty - Gennai
Despatche - 504,800 - 1-6 - 2P - Yes - ShmupMAME v4.2 (Japan)
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Sengoku Ace - Normal (arcade defaults) - Aine
KoopaTGR - 782,000 - 2-1 - 1P - Yes - MAME (Japan)

Resubmitting my score to fit the new format.
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Sengoku Ace - Normal - Aine
KoopaTGR - 854,800 - 2-3 - 1P - YES - MAME (Japan)
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Re: Sengoku Ace series

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Sengoku Blade -Normal - Aine
Vludi - 827,700 - 2-1 - P1 - No - Mame (World)

Any gameplay differences between Jap and World revision?
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Nothing's been found yet, but it never hurts to have that information.
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Re: Sengoku Ace series

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Sengoku Ace - Normal - Aine
Vludi - 1,453,900- All - P1 - No - Mame (Japan)

By the way, my previous score was for Sengoku Blade, not Ace.
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Oops, sorry about that. This would be why I hate multigame threads, especially when the games share characters.

Fixed and updated. Pretty neat that you did a score for the mistaken category!
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Samurai Aces (World set) - Normal - Flash/Aine/whatever
cream-s - 1,518,800 - 2-ALL - 1P - auto on - shmupmame v4.2 (mame v0.148)
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Samurai Aces -Normal- Aine

maximo- 772,300- 2-2- P1- No- MAME (World)

Quickie clear.
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Samurai Aces - Normal - Tengai
Macias - 912,500 - 2-3 - P1 - Yes - shmupMAME 4.2 (World)

replay part 1, part 2


Samurai Aces - Normal - Kenoumaru
Macias - 823,900 - 2-2 - P1 - Yes - shmupMAME 4.2 (World)

replay


Samurai Aces - Normal - Gennai
Macias - 797,600 - 2-1 - P1 - Yes - shmupMAME 4.2 (World)

replay
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Sengoku Blade

Hagane

andsuchisdeath - 843,500 - 2-1 - 1P - Yes - Saturn

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Sengoku Ace - Aine

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Perikles - 1,480,000 - ALL - 1P - Yes - ShmupMAME v4.2 (Japan)

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And while I'm at it, I might as well toss in my Sengoku Blade result I got after a couple of attempts in-between Dogyuun runs:

Sengoku Blade - Aine

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Perikles - 1,113,800 - 2-3 - 1P - Yes - ShmupMAME v4.2 (Japan)



Without a doubt my favourite Psikyo games, I might even try to 2-ALL Blade and get a better score in Ace at some point. Is there a way to ensure which one of the bosses you get in stage 4 in Ace? That's quite a significant difference in score, especially if you get the wrong one in both loops.
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To my knowledge, Strikers 1999 and Dragon Blaze are the only Psikyo games that give you a fixed level order on reset.
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All the games on the "psikyosh" driver in MAME have fixed order on reset. So Strikers 1945 II and Gunbird 2 are like that too.
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I'm aware of the random stages, I was indeed referring to the fourth boss. From stage 4 onwards, Sengoku Ace has a fixed stage order, but it seems to me like the boss you have to fight in stage 4 is random. Two platforms will arise:

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For scoring purposes, you want the guy on the left since he has a few little orbs that'll drop a power-up upon destruction whereas the right boss has no accompanying elements. I'm not sure whether you can manipulate that as you can for the mid-boss in the final stage of Strikers 1945 or the one boss fight in Strikers 1999 by a specific position on the screen, I couldn't find any immediately apparent pattern, however.
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Strange, I'm pretty sure your post was talking about stage order when I had read it...

Was not aware Strikers II and Gunbird 2 were like that. No matter how many times I try to put the USA stage in something I can actually react to, I've never seen it happen...

AFAIK the Fuujin/Raijin fight is random. Sengoku Ace has a number of random elements, such as what the houses drop in the village stage.
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Sengoku Blade - Normal - Aine
Square_Air - 851,300 - 2-1 - 1P - No - ShmupMAME v4.2 (Japan)

Aine's sword slash is probably the most satisfying charge attack in any Psikyo game. Worth playing as Aine just for this.
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Sengoku Blade - Normal - Ayin

HAN - 877,000 - 2-1 - 1P - No - WolfMAME v.196 (Japan)

(edit) Link to replay here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8XqUYoohAQ
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Cool clear. Thanks for bumping the thread, had to fix images.
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Slight increase over my mame score at the arcade today, sorry for spamming:

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No spam here. Replacing an emulator score with a hardware score is sick.

These games don't have region differences, right? They better not.
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Sengoku Blade - Normal - Shoumaru
CloudyMusic - 708,200 - 1-7 - 1P - Yes - ShmupMAME v4.2 (Japan)

Will keep going at least until the 1-ALL, but the Shoumaru board is so dire that I figured I'd throw this up in the meantime.
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I agree. Shoumaru is the Bf-109 of this game and needs more respect. I basically always use him.
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Despatche wrote:No spam here. Replacing an emulator score with a hardware score is sick.

These games don't have region differences, right? They better not.
I'm not sure on regional differences at all, but I personally didn't noticing anything different while playing.
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Sengoku Ace - Aine
Square_Air - 1,470,500 - ALL - 1P - Yes - ShmupMAME v4.2 (Japan)

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I guess a Strikers 1999 2-ALL would be the next logical step from here.
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Sengoku Ace 2 - Koyori
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Sengoku Ace - Aine
Dumple - 727,600 - 2-1 - 1p - No - MAME 0.202

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyV5zYJ3R54
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Sengoku Ace - Normal - Jane
stuminator - 1,611,100 - ALL - 1p - no - PCB

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While this game isn't exactly easy, the loop is actually pretty tame when compared to most of the Psikyo catalogue.
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Wow, a Jane ALL. Nice job!
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