Prelude to the Apocalypse

[BryanM]

And the Confederacy was likely going to abolish slavery eventually anyways; if not for moral reasons, for economic ones

Slavery still exists, and is protected by the constitution. When and how is the Confederacy going to get around to abolishing slavery?

They're still trying to abolish the minimum wage and reinstate company scrip. What a joke.

This isn't going to stop at monuments and it's only going to get worse.

Good.

It's about time things started getting better in this shithole.

The escalations he's terrified of:

* Medicare.
* Minimum wage.
* College and Technical schools.
* Communist government-run infrastructure jobs

Scary shit.

but the fact that you're on a neighborhood-sized war machine armed to the teeth makes me question our existence.

It is funny he's claiming to be a job welfare leech that wants to deny other families the Free Stuff he gets (healthcare, education).

There's so many people living off Social Security who complain about Muslims all day, too. I think all of us have an uncle or three like that. Who would be literally dead right now without the government taking care of them.

[Rob]

Nah the actual thing is more like watching a battalion of Hannibal Lecters with a 10th of the IQ, being nazier than nazis, armed to the teeth and promising to turn America into an extreme right wing racist hell hole.

Cantwell definitely has spree shooter potential, but I think what most of these guys want is just to get away from this, this (warning: NSFW, disgusting), this, this, etc.

On the subject of IQ, solid conversation.

[Giest118]

But Rob.

Being anti-horseshit is the exact same thing as being anti-black people.

Clearly.

[Xyga]

Cantwell definitely has spree shooter potential, but I think what most of these guys want is just to get away from this.

You're just writing that for all those who haven't watched the Vice News documentary.

Nope, not 'just' that, your nazi buddies state loud and clear they're racist to the marrow and want a racist country adjusted to their imbecile madness.
Not 'just' get away from SJW and terrorists, and they clearly state they're ready for military actions, all of them.

Their solution to a society turning stupid is to make and confirm an even stupidier society, where does that place them? How low can people go? Until they can't even breath I guess.
Oh but their ideas make them 'decent people' alright, where does that place you?


If we could get all the categories of pains-in-the-world's-ass, like you alt-right nazis, mad SJW commies or else, muslim terrorists/jihadists and other religious cultists, and drop you all from an altitude, that'd be nice.

[Specineff]

It is funny he's claiming to be a job welfare leech that wants to deny other families the Free Stuff he gets (healthcare, education).

Whoa. What?

[quash]

Your mixture of paranoia and ability to oversimplify literally everything, as well as your consistent assurances that nobody gets the points that you never make is pretty special...

I have every right to be paranoid. Shit's fuckin' nuts right now, yo. I told you all that something was going to pop off two years ago, but nobody wanted to listen.

As for "oversimplying", as the old saying goes: if you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough.

but the fact that you're on a neighborhood-sized war machine armed to the teeth makes me question our existence.

As you should be doing, anyways.

Lee fought for the South though, as apparently his geographic ties meant more than his conscious. So much for fighting for what you think is right...

This is literally proving my point lol. The South wasn't unequivocally for slavery just as the North wasn't unequivocally against it. FFS, we now know that Lincoln wanted to export the South's slaves to the British.

They broke the goddamn laws of physics and unlocked unlimited free energy. I'm sure they were just itching to get rid of slavery.

Last I checked, even slaves need food, clothing and shelter. Not to mention the cost of transport across an entire ocean. It was cheaper than paid labor at one point, but by the time the Civil War started it had already started to become more hassle than it was worth.

Makes you wonder why the civil war even had to happen.

Where's that thinking emoji when you need it?

[quash]

Slavery still exists, and is protected by the constitution. When and how is the Confederacy going to get around to abolishing slavery?

They're still trying to abolish the minimum wage and reinstate company scrip. What a joke.

Don't get me wrong, we are all slaves in an abstract sense and always will be. Even if central banking completely collapses tomorrow, there will still be haves and have nots, even in Communist societies.

It's about time things started getting better in this shithole.

The escalations he's terrified of:

* Medicare.
* Minimum wage.
* College and Technical schools.
* Communist government-run infrastructure jobs

Scary shit.

Just the last one, actually. Though we could probably afford to cut some Medicare spending. I'm all for increasing the minimum wage, though, as long as small businesses in particular get some tax breaks.

What does this have to do with destroying monuments and re-writing history, again?

It is funny he's claiming to be a job welfare leech that wants to deny other families the Free Stuff he gets (healthcare, education).

If it's so easy, why don't you do it?

Probably because, contrary to what you're trying to tell yourself, it isn't free at all.

And it goes without saying that military healthcare is basically a joke. Countless studies have shown that it lags behind the private sector in all but a few areas.

[BryanM]

Probably because, contrary to what you're trying to tell yourself, it isn't free at all.

I agree. Let's get rid of the military and all the other freeloaders sucking up all my money. Damn guberment.

[quash]

But Rob.

Being anti-horseshit is the exact same thing as being anti-black people.

Clearly.

This is what it comes down to, right here. You say one thing, people focus on something else entirely. As I've been saying all along, missing the point.

You may not have a side yet, but you will in due time. You won't have a choice.

[quash]

Probably because, contrary to what you're trying to tell yourself, it isn't free at all.

I agree. Let's get rid of the military and all the other freeloaders sucking up all my money. Damn guberment.

I don't disagree. We need to cut spending on a lot of things. I could go on all day about how the military logistics and supply chain wastes money and how we should adopt a model like Amazon's, but we'd rather argue over the current news cycle.

[BryanM]

But Amazon leeches off of the government massively.

Really hard, to be a pure Self Sufficient Road Warrior.

[quash]

Correction: Amazon, like most of big tech, is a front for the CIA.

But that doesn't mean they aren't good at what they do.

[GaijinPunch]

Said geographic ties of his home state Virginia would also include friends, acquaintances and family, all of which you don't want to consider you a traitor.

So guess he'd have jumped off a cliff if they jumped off a cliff.

There's so many people living off Social Security who complain about Muslims all day, too. I think all of us have an uncle or three like that. Who would be literally dead right now without the government taking care of them.

The hypocracy state is amazing. Red states benefit the most from the ACA. O.o

I have every right to be paranoid. Shit's fuckin' nuts right now, yo.

...it always has been. Having lived in Japan since the 90's, North Korea was always an existential threat... to me, anyway. And that's just NK. I seem to recall terrorism and war being around for a long time.

I told you all that something was going to pop off two years ago, but nobody wanted to listen.

Something is always popping off... so I guess technically you will always be right on that front.

As for "oversimplying", as the old saying goes: if you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough.

.

As the other saying goes, "If you're not conveying much of a meaning in your summary, you're a detriment to the thread."

Lee fought for the South though, as apparently his geographic ties meant more than his conscious. So much for fighting for what you think is right...

This is literally proving my point lol. The South wasn't unequivocally for slavery just as the North wasn't unequivocally against it. FFS, we now know that Lincoln wanted to export the South's slaves to the British.

No, it's not (literally). One outlier a movement does not make.

[quash]

...it always has been. Having lived in Japan since the 90's, North Korea was always an existential threat... to me, anyway. And that's just NK. I seem to recall terrorism and war being around for a long time.

It's not just NK; but ignoring that, their new ballistic missile capabilities makes them a threat to more than just Japan, which dramatically changes how the US and other countries will be dealing with them from here on out.

Though if Japan is your main concern, you should be able to see how this puts them at a greater risk than ever. Their government seems to, at least, which is reassuring.

Something is always popping off... so I guess technically you will always be right on that front.

I'm not sure if you were one of the naysayers, but I seem to recall people saying that the US would never go to war with China and that I was crazy for thinking that could ever happen.

"We won't support North Korea unless they are attacked first". Where have I heard that before?

As the other saying goes, "If you're not conveying much of a meaning in your summary, you're a detriment to the thread."

It wasn't me who said that, it was Einstein. No, really. Look it up.

No, it's not (literally). One outlier a movement does not make.

Even if we assume the entire rest of the Confederacy was pro slavery and the Union entirely against it (which I would say is a laughably naive position, at best, if for no other reason that there were slaves in some of the Union states), Robert E. Lee made his position very clear that the disliked the practice. Seeing as he was a unifying figure before and after the war, being both a descendant of George Washington and a respected military leader (the barracks at West Point were named after him before the Civil War started), I'd say he is easily among the least offensive people to remember from that time.

I mean, we honorably remember a bunch of traitors against the crown (though who knows for how much longer at this rate), so why not a person who ended up on the wrong side of the war but made amends afterwards?

This conversation is still missing the point of the modern left wanting to destroy history, but I guess nobody wants to talk about that, anyways.

[GaijinPunch]

It's not just NK; but ignoring that, their new ballistic missile capabilities makes them a threat to more than just Japan, which dramatically changes how the US and other countries will be dealing with them from here on out.

They shot a missile over Japan in 1998.

I'm not sure if you were one of the naysayers, but I seem to recall people saying that the US would never go to war with China and that I was crazy for thinking that could ever happen.

"We won't support North Korea unless they are attacked first". Where have I heard that before?

Dunno, but I will naysay that china will throw away everything to support North Korea.

Even if we assume the entire rest of the Confederacy was pro slavery and the Union entirely against it (which I would say is a laughably naive position, at best, if for no other reason that there were slaves in some of the Union states), Robert E. Lee made his position very clear that the disliked the practice. Seeing as he was a unifying figure before and after the war, being both a descendant of George Washington and a respected military leader (the barracks at West Point were named after him before the Civil War started), I'd say he is easily among the least offensive people to remember from that time.

If you're going to simplify do it across the board. By and large the confederacy was for slavery. And who gives a shit about descendants and family? I'm distantly related to Robert E Lee actually -- have a huge family scroll thing w/ a few Lee's on it. I'm certainly not retarded enough to side with any single state b/c it's my state.

This conversation is still missing the point of the modern left wanting to destroy history, but I guess nobody wants to talk about that, anyways.

[Specineff]

Aaaaaaaand Bannon goes bye-bye:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... story.html



At this rate, I won't be surprised if Trump states in 2020 that this was all test run, and that the real presidency will start then. So much winning, winning, winning. Is your head spinning yet?

[Mischief Maker]

Aaaaaaaand Bannon goes bye-bye:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... story.html



At this rate, I won't be surprised if Trump states in 2020 that this was all test run, and that the real presidency will start then. So much winning, winning, winning. Is your head spinning yet?

Dammit! You beat me to it!

[Rob]

HuffPost Bannon headline ‘Goy, bye!’ creates backlash

That's some Grade A trolling right there.

[BryanM]

Huffpost is a hilarious rag of note. We always make fun of how its writers are unpaid bloggers, it's like the seventh circle of hell of what our "journalism" has become. And for a "liberal" rag, it's funny that one of its founders is Andrew Breitbart. lol, what a sham.

As for Bannon, it's incredible he's lasted as long as he has. Guess all you have to do to get fired is embarrass the president's ego. It should be a small blow to Trump's prowess going forward - Bannon was the only good strategist on his team that understands Trump's support base.

I get lots of you want Trump out because you think he can trigger WW3 at any time, but he's proving even more incompetent than even I imagined. And I expected a flopping fish, cause the man's really, really dumb. If Pence was in there, we'd have had the billionaire income tax cut by now. (They managed it in mid May/early June of the first year, if you remember last time. Also still waiting on The Heritage Foundation's claim these would completely eliminate the national debt by 2010. Any... minute....now....)

This conversation is still missing the point of the modern left wanting to destroy history, but I guess nobody wants to talk about that, anyways.

Ok, since you're very symbol minded I'll touch on your concerns about your beloved symbols.

Statues in front of government offices and in government public spaces are not "history". They are statues. If you want to have hundreds of symbols to remind us of the time wealthy southern capitalists went to war against wealthy northern capitalists over who got to exploit the massive amount of land we had just stolen from Mexico, that's great and you're 100% allowed to have that opinion.

I, personally, would rather have statues of Transformers or Robocop or maybe the KFC colonel. Even a farmer or a coal miner. The wars in Harlan County were vicious, and if we're celebrating losers, why not the coal miners?

Probably because they're not the powerful people who get to decide which symbols get shoved down our throats. Forget Harlan County, but remember when the nasty evil elite northerners forced their evil inclusive culture on us. Divide, divide, divide. And profit.

[Rob]

You're just writing that for all those who haven't watched the Vice News documentary.

I'm sure you know how these things work. Vice is a shock entertainment thing. It was a white guy convention. Most are probably fairly normal and undoubtedly really boring. If they were to ask them about demographic replacement it wouldn't draw in millions of views, so they pick the guy with the suitcase full of guns and some weirdo from Daily Stormer.

and drop you all from an altitude, that'd be nice.

This meme is already taken, my friend.

[Xyga]

I'm sure you know how these things work. Vice is a shock entertainment thing. It was a white guy convention. Most are probably fairly normal and undoubtedly really boring. If they were to ask them about demographic replacement it wouldn't draw in millions of views, so they pick the guy with the suitcase full of guns and some weirdo from Daily Stormer.

I commend you for your persistence at being a phenomenal hypocrite troll. Anything for your nazi friends heh?

This meme is already taken, my friend.

Nuke you all from orbit would have been more appropriate.

[BulletMagnet]

Let's tone the, uh, tone down here a bit...

[Xyga]

This community is a joke, you shelter assholes like them and you expect people to stay civil, talk normally?

I more than suppose this is not in your hands anyway BM, but that's pathetic.

[Giest118]

It's like Xyga's having a totally different conversation with a totally different set of people who aren't here.

[Xyga]

It's like youre completely high, nothing new.

[Bananamatic]

to change the subject, anyone else looking forward to this?

[BIL]

Faygo up to the horses' bridles...

[BryanM]

Bannon declares war, says "It's now a Democrat White House."

Which is factually incorrect. Why do national socialists bend over backwards to avoid saying the word "Capitalist"?

to change the subject, anyone else looking forward to this?

Juggalos are excellent people. The best people.

Because they're on my side. Tremendous.

[jepjepjep]

It was a white guy convention. Most are probably fairly normal and undoubtedly really boring.

Dude, you can't be serious. Either you're trolling or you've got some serious blinders on. This is how one of the militia leaders at Charlottesville described the rally:

He criticized the Unite the Right rally, saying it represented the most extreme end of the political spectrum.


“These people did not come for free speech, they came to fight. We are not going to allow people to get violent. This was nothing more than an excuse to unite rightwing hate groups. They knew Black Lives Matter would come and antifa would come,” he said, referring to anti-racism activist groups.

[ED-057]

Cenk and Mischief win, poll is up. Yes or no. No maybes. No takebacks. No cowards on this one.

I vote yes. Why would the puppet masters even bother trying to force Trump out? The current distraction campaign serves their purposes just fine.