BATTLE GAREGGA REV.2016 (M2)

Domino · Post by **Domino** » Thu Dec 15, 2016 4:20 am

Making JP PSN accounts is easy. Just make sure to use a spare email address. Plenty of youtube videos out there.

I need to go to bed but here are some of my impressions:

*So much stuff you can tweak. We need to figure out all the options in Mode Detail where you can turn on Stage Edit, adjust the Rankograph, and other stuff I haven't figure it out since it is in Japanese.

*Make Garegga to your liking: Hate Rank but want to play it hard, try Premium, turn on Stage Edit, and adjust some settings, boom. Shoot as much as you want to play a harder game without Rank going up the butt (but game still hard). This is amazing since while I always enjoyed Garegga, I never like the rank system. This is very welcoming and a major game changer for those who just couldn't stand Rankograph Garegga.

*LOL intro CGI on the side.

*Did I say crapton of options?

*Its worth near 4000 yen for this, deal of the hour.

Special World · Post by **Special World** » Thu Dec 15, 2016 4:32 am

watching superplays for this game is so intimidating

there is so much to know

there is an infinite amount of things to know

charlie chong · Post by **charlie chong** » Thu Dec 15, 2016 4:41 am

finally downloading

jeeeze @ dem options
im not sure if i'm feeling it's a little sluggish due to mainly playing the saturn port in the past..
scanlines look good for those interested

Jeneki · Post by **Jeneki** » Thu Dec 15, 2016 5:12 am

I got the guest ships in Option Setting -> Game Settings tab -> Other Settings -> top choice change to ON.

CloudyMusic · Post by **CloudyMusic** » Thu Dec 15, 2016 5:22 am

What I've noticed about Premium Mode:

- Rank is fixed based on the stage, as mentioned. It isn't exactly "each stage is harder than the last," but it's a general upward trend. Because rank is fixed, you can pick up all items and fully power up without worrying.
- Stage order is 1-3-2-4-5-6-7
- Bosses/midbosses can drop either 5 small bomb fragments, 1 large bomb, or 1UP. Not sure what determines it, I've seen the same bosses drop different things on different runs.
- Certain sections have added popcorn rushes (stage 3, stage 4, stage 6, etc)
- Medals will suction into your ship once they get within around 1/2 ship length of you. Not a game-breaker, but it eliminates near-misses and makes the stage 4 rails pretty easy.
- Medal value decreases by 5 ranks(?) when you drop one.
- Bomb fragments are worth 2 instead of 1
- Autobomb, seems like it might only activate every X seconds (getting hit twice in a row won't save you the second time)
- No score extends? Or different score extends
- Autofire locked at 15Hz
- (EDIT) Tick points are practically nonexistent

What I've noticed about Super Easy Mode:

- Rank is 0.00% for the entire game.
- Medal suction from Premium is still present
- Bomb fragments are worth 2 instead of 1
- Autobomb?
- Autofire locked at 15Hz

Stream archive if anyone wants to comb through it for details or theory verification

gatr · Post by **gatr** » Thu Dec 15, 2016 6:53 am

Re: PS3 controllers

I tried my ps360+ stick in PS3 mode, and it works, but only registers as Player 2, so your scores don't get registered.

GSK · Post by **GSK** » Thu Dec 15, 2016 7:01 am

gatr wrote:Re: PS3 controllers

I tried my ps360+ stick in PS3 mode, and it works, but only registers as Player 2, so your scores don't get registered.

Which stick? They're planning patches so there's a chance they'll address this if someone lets them know about the issue.

ratikal · Post by **ratikal** » Thu Dec 15, 2016 7:22 am

Yeah, my Qanba Q4 has the same issue where it only plays as player 2.

rtw · Post by **rtw** » Thu Dec 15, 2016 7:27 am

Thank you for all the stick info, much appreciated

DoomsDave · Post by **DoomsDave** » Thu Dec 15, 2016 8:16 am

Does anyone have recommendations on the best/cheapest place to buy JPN Network cards online?

ryu · Post by **ryu** » Thu Dec 15, 2016 8:54 am

DoomsDave wrote:Does anyone have recommendations on the best/cheapest place to buy JPN Network cards online?

I just use play-asia for simplicity's sake.

They're overpriced everywhere because they know foreigners have no other choice! :/

Elixir · Post by **Elixir** » Thu Dec 15, 2016 8:57 am

DoomsDave wrote:Does anyone have recommendations on the best/cheapest place to buy JPN Network cards online?

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... =839117261

gatr · Post by **gatr** » Thu Dec 15, 2016 9:21 am

GSK wrote:Which stick? They're planning patches so there's a chance they'll address this if someone lets them know about the issue.

It's the Akishop PS360+ board in forced PS3 mode. But that would be a killer patch, like a PS3 driver implemented like MKX, wonder how we could send them wish list items..

And just for more info about the PS360+, it does work with it's PS4 mode, but there's still the 8 minute timeout it has with the PS4, which probably means a reset between levels. I can deal with that probably until I pick up another board.

DoomsDave · Post by **DoomsDave** » Thu Dec 15, 2016 9:25 am

That doc is great, thank you.

edit: playasia actually has the cards on sale atm so if you prefer them for convenience then it's a good time to buy.

GSK · Post by **GSK** » Thu Dec 15, 2016 9:52 am

gatr wrote:
GSK wrote:Which stick? They're planning patches so there's a chance they'll address this if someone lets them know about the issue.
It's the Akishop PS360+ board in forced PS3 mode. But that would be a killer patch, like a PS3 driver implemented like MKX, wonder how we could send them wish list items..

And just for more info about the PS360+, it does work with it's PS4 mode, but there's still the 8 minute timeout it has with the PS4, which probably means a reset between levels. I can deal with that probably until I pick up another board.

You could ask it to @M2_STG on Twitter--it might take a little while for them to read and/or respond to English requests but they do take notice.

M2 has implemented the Lab Zero PS3 stick driver (the one used by MKX, Ultra SF4, Guilty Gear, etc) in other games so it seems possible that they might implement it here if people ask for it. Every implementation is a little different, however, and I think PS360+ boards are the ones that usually have the most issues, so you may be out of luck no matter what they do.

neontropics · Post by **neontropics** » Thu Dec 15, 2016 10:42 am

Elixir wrote:
DoomsDave wrote:Does anyone have recommendations on the best/cheapest place to buy JPN Network cards online?
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... =839117261

PlayAsia currently has a Christmas sale and has the 5000 yen card for $48.99. I just bought it and received a photo of a code immediately. I haven't set up my Japanese PSN account yet but hopefully the code is legit!

EDIT: wooo Wild Guns Reloaded also just released and is "just" 1800 yen, gonna get another 1000 yen code and buy that with the leftover Garegga credits

GSK · Post by **GSK** » Thu Dec 15, 2016 10:53 am

neontropics wrote:EDIT: wooo Wild Guns Reloaded also just released and is "just" 1800 yen, gonna get another 1000 yen code and buy that with the leftover Garegga credits

If you'd prefer a disc version, it'll be out in North America/Europe next week.

neontropics · Post by **neontropics** » Thu Dec 15, 2016 11:19 am

GSK wrote:
neontropics wrote:EDIT: wooo Wild Guns Reloaded also just released and is "just" 1800 yen, gonna get another 1000 yen code and buy that with the leftover Garegga credits
If you'd prefer a disc version, it'll be out in North America/Europe next week.

Huh, I didn't know we were getting discs in America / Europe as well, that's awesome. I'll get that instead then. Gotta figure out what to do with the remaining 1300 yen credits then...

MaXXX · Post by **MaXXX** » Thu Dec 15, 2016 11:42 am

So realistically this is never going to get a PC release, right? Do they have a Twitter account or anything where I (and hopefully other people) can let them know I want one?

DoomsDave · Post by **DoomsDave** » Thu Dec 15, 2016 12:04 pm

neontropics wrote:
GSK wrote:
neontropics wrote:EDIT: wooo Wild Guns Reloaded also just released and is "just" 1800 yen, gonna get another 1000 yen code and buy that with the leftover Garegga credits
If you'd prefer a disc version, it'll be out in North America/Europe next week.
Huh, I didn't know we were getting discs in America / Europe as well, that's awesome. I'll get that instead then. Gotta figure out what to do with the remaining 1300 yen credits then...

I picked up Darius with what I had left over - https://store.playstation.com/#!/ja-jp/ ... C000000001

GSK · Post by **GSK** » Thu Dec 15, 2016 12:09 pm

neontropics wrote:
GSK wrote:
neontropics wrote:EDIT: wooo Wild Guns Reloaded also just released and is "just" 1800 yen, gonna get another 1000 yen code and buy that with the leftover Garegga credits
If you'd prefer a disc version, it'll be out in North America/Europe next week.
Huh, I didn't know we were getting discs in America / Europe as well, that's awesome. I'll get that instead then. Gotta figure out what to do with the remaining 1300 yen credits then...

Yep, they're on Play-Asia right now.

Caladrius Blaze is on sale on J-PSN right now for 1900 yen, and Maldita Castilla EX launches on PSN tomorrow for 1200 yen (or $12/€12). There's also DLC for Dariusburst if you have that on PS4/Vita, 1200 yen is enough for a three-ship pack (the CAVE DLC came out today, in fact) as well as a lot of Arcade Archives releases.

If all else fails, you could just sit on it until Dangun Feveron is released, or even paid DLC for Battle Garegga.

MaXXX wrote:So realistically this is never going to get a PC release, right? Do they have a Twitter account or anything where I (and hopefully other people) can let them know I want one?

@M2_STG

CStarFlare · Post by **CStarFlare** » Thu Dec 15, 2016 12:19 pm

Do Premium and Super Easy have access to Harder/Extended modes?

GSK · Post by **GSK** » Thu Dec 15, 2016 1:01 pm

CStarFlare wrote:Do Premium and Super Easy have access to Harder/Extended modes?

Not directly, but there's a custom mode that lets you choose AC/Super Easy/Premium as a base and then alter lots of game parameters to your liking.

Special World · Post by **Special World** » Thu Dec 15, 2016 1:49 pm

What's the first option under game setting mean? It's set to 1 but you can set it to 0. Is that input lag? The original arcade release did have a frame of input lag, right? Or am I just thinking I remember things that aren't actually true because I'm a crazy person?

charlie chong · Post by **charlie chong** » Thu Dec 15, 2016 2:00 pm

yes that option is input lag
thank keres cos he has already made a guide/translation for the options
http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=58944

CloudyMusic · Post by **CloudyMusic** » Thu Dec 15, 2016 2:42 pm

Does anyone know for sure what the red horizontal line means on the rank graph? I feel like it must be something obvious but I can't really figure it out.

Some-Mist · Post by **Some-Mist** » Thu Dec 15, 2016 2:46 pm

the port is great. only spent a limited time with it last night, but can't wait to get home late tonight and play.

Some-Mist wrote:I just bought a brook 360/xb1 -> ps4 converter for $40 and tested it on dariusburst which did the job with my hrap ex-se.

edit: they have a ton of super converters for different consoles -> PS4.

also as a follow up - I'm gonna be returning the converter since it's really delayed compared to the ds4. looks like I'm gonna have to bite the bullet on a new stick ._.

Xyga · Post by **Xyga** » Thu Dec 15, 2016 2:50 pm

Keres wrote:Does anyone know for sure what the red horizontal line means on the rank graph? I feel like it must be something obvious but I can't really figure it out.

The red lines are probably there to notify the player he's passing new, higher thresholds of pain and distress.

Danbo · Post by **Danbo** » Thu Dec 15, 2016 3:21 pm

port is damn sweet! i'm properly getting into greg again which is a good feeling

Tim James · Post by **Tim James** » Thu Dec 15, 2016 3:33 pm

Does the DS4 gamepad work well for casuals such as myself?

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